by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:16 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by Vashty » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:18 pm
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:21 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by Dytarma » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:21 pm
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:22 pm
Alvecia wrote:I mean, yes. That's the definition of it. It's an unhealthy amount of weight.
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by Rojava Free State » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:22 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:23 pm
Dytarma wrote:Yes, it really is unhealthy. Friends are having joint problems because of it.
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by Nouveau Quebecois » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:24 pm
by Dytarma » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:30 pm
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Dytarma wrote:Yes, it really is unhealthy. Friends are having joint problems because of it.
Okay, now we're getting somewhere. That still leaves the question of why big pharma relies upon hollow correlation-causation reasoning, instead of modeling the tensile strength of cartilage the way engineers model the tensile strength of wires.
by Alvecia » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:31 pm
BMI is not used to diagnose obesity because people who are very muscular can have a high BMI without much fat.
But for most people, BMI is a useful indication of whether they're a healthy weight.
While BMI is a useful measurement for most people, it's not accurate for everyone.
For example, the normal BMI scores may not be accurate if you're very muscular because muscle can add extra kilos, resulting in a high BMI when you're not an unhealthy weight. In such cases, your waist circumference may be a better guide.
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As well as calculating your BMI, your GP may also carry out tests to determine whether you're at increased risk of developing health complications because of your weight.
by Aureumterra » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:33 pm
by Neanderthaland » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:33 pm
by Chasiona » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:41 pm
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Came to mind watching this Bill Maher monologue. In it, he conflates eating junk food with being overweight, and being overweight with a variety of medical conditions.
Conflating the first thing with the third sounds reasonable enough; we evolved to eat fruits and vegetables, not meat and dairy; but conflating the second with the third sounds dicey. For a pro-vegetarianism, anti-big-pharma guy, Bill seems to lend little significance to the fact that BMI was pushed by big pharma or that meat and dairy can leave you with high cholesterol even if you're underweight. How do we know that's not the cause of high cholesterol in the overweight?
He also acknowledged beauty is in the eye of the beholder... sure, many women portrayed in hentai look like they'd count as overweight by BMI standards. But then he says health is not, despite having touted anti-vax views which fly in the face of scientific consensus far more clearly, which to cap it off is in a context where any vested interest on big pharma's part in vaccines is more in the money they could make from parents not getting their kids vaccinated, hence suggesting the opposite bias from that of which they are typically accused. So for someone who's willing to defy scientific consensus once, it seems hypocritical to bitch at people who do so now. It's certainly possible for being overweight to be attractive and unhealthy; men who impregnate overweight women first know they have enough body fat to nurture a fetus during a famine even if the weight puts a strain on them, not unlike finding huge breasts attractive despite the harm on women's backs. But it's also possible for being overweight to be healthy and below-average attractiveness... for instance, if you took more than your tribe's share of the food, but it was all healthy food that gave you low cholesterol... and everyone else in the tribe was denied their share of the food because of it. If the tribes that instinctively bashed in the skulls of the overweight thereby incentivized food-sharing, and therefore outbred rival tribes, wouldn't that explain modern fat-shaming instincts without requiring the assumption that being overweight is unhealthy?
Last but not least, he compares being fat to being drunk. In many places, food that is filling but not nutritious is cheaper than food that actually is nutritious; meaning the only way to afford your daily dose of vitamins and minerals is to have a hell of a lot of calories with them. In some towns, that is unavoidable, whereas alcohol, as far as I'm aware, is avoidable everywhere.
by Scomagia » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:43 pm
by Alvecia » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:43 pm
Chasiona wrote:LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Came to mind watching this Bill Maher monologue. In it, he conflates eating junk food with being overweight, and being overweight with a variety of medical conditions.
Conflating the first thing with the third sounds reasonable enough; we evolved to eat fruits and vegetables, not meat and dairy; but conflating the second with the third sounds dicey. For a pro-vegetarianism, anti-big-pharma guy, Bill seems to lend little significance to the fact that BMI was pushed by big pharma or that meat and dairy can leave you with high cholesterol even if you're underweight. How do we know that's not the cause of high cholesterol in the overweight?
He also acknowledged beauty is in the eye of the beholder... sure, many women portrayed in hentai look like they'd count as overweight by BMI standards. But then he says health is not, despite having touted anti-vax views which fly in the face of scientific consensus far more clearly, which to cap it off is in a context where any vested interest on big pharma's part in vaccines is more in the money they could make from parents not getting their kids vaccinated, hence suggesting the opposite bias from that of which they are typically accused. So for someone who's willing to defy scientific consensus once, it seems hypocritical to bitch at people who do so now. It's certainly possible for being overweight to be attractive and unhealthy; men who impregnate overweight women first know they have enough body fat to nurture a fetus during a famine even if the weight puts a strain on them, not unlike finding huge breasts attractive despite the harm on women's backs. But it's also possible for being overweight to be healthy and below-average attractiveness... for instance, if you took more than your tribe's share of the food, but it was all healthy food that gave you low cholesterol... and everyone else in the tribe was denied their share of the food because of it. If the tribes that instinctively bashed in the skulls of the overweight thereby incentivized food-sharing, and therefore outbred rival tribes, wouldn't that explain modern fat-shaming instincts without requiring the assumption that being overweight is unhealthy?
Last but not least, he compares being fat to being drunk. In many places, food that is filling but not nutritious is cheaper than food that actually is nutritious; meaning the only way to afford your daily dose of vitamins and minerals is to have a hell of a lot of calories with them. In some towns, that is unavoidable, whereas alcohol, as far as I'm aware, is avoidable everywhere.
Yes, but honestly who cares? im here to live good not long.!
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