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Harry Potter Books Banned For "Real Spells And Curses"

Postby Gormwood » Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:44 pm

Harry Potter books removed from school library because they contain 'real' curses and spells

A Roman Catholic school in Tennessee has banished JK Rowling's universally popular series of Harry Potter novels from its library shelves after its pastor took exception to their portrayal of magic, warning the spells and curses the author describes are real and “risk conjuring evil spirits” when read.

The Reverend Dan Reehill explained his decision in an email to the parents of students at St Edward Catholic School in Nashville, declaring that he had consulted with exorcists in the US and at the Vatican before outlawing the seven-volume tale of the boy wizard’s career at Hogwarts and his battle against Lord Voldermort and the forces of darkness.

“These books present magic as both good and evil, which is not true, but in fact a clever deception. The curses and spells used in the books are actual curses and spells; which when read by a human being risk conjuring evil spirits into the presence of the person reading the text,” the Reverend Reehill wrote, apparently in all seriousness.

Rebecca Hammel, the superintendent of schools for the Catholic Diocese of Nashville, told The Tennessean that the Reverend Reehill had indeed sent the email and has the final say on the matter, since the Catholic Church does not have an official position on Ms Rowling’s best-selling series.

“Each pastor has canonical authority to make such decisions for his parish school,” she said. “He’s well within his authority to act in that manner.”

The school has recently opened a new library for its students, Ms Hammel explained, prompting the faculty to reassess its catalogue.

“I know that in the process they were going through and kind of weeding out some of the content in hopes of sprucing it up and improving the circulation,” she said.

Ms Hammel did say the school would not stand in the way of students reading Harry Potter at their parents’ discretion.

“Should parents deem that this or any other media to be appropriate we would hope that they would just guide their sons and daughters to understand the content through the lens of our faith,” Hammel said.

“We really don’t get into censorship in such selections other than making sure that what we put in our school libraries is age appropriate materials for our classrooms.”

Obviously some people will want to use this as a soapbox to proclaim the overall ignorance of having religious beliefs. Just don't.

Appointing this reverend high school principal has to be one of the lesser mistakes the Catholic Church made. Something tells me he's just a prude and possibly pulled a Donny Trump out of his ass when he claimed to have consulted the Vatican. He is the exact sort of personality that would have believed Dungeons & Dragons was a "Satanic recruitment tool" back in the 80s.

I think there should be some research before a book is banned from school. Huckleberry Finn all over again. Seriously, with how popular Harry Potter is if the spells and curses were real there'd be a lot of people dropping dead or changed into newts. I would not be surprised if some embarrassing detail comes out about this reverend.
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Postby Heloin » Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:45 pm

Teachers union President @@RANDOMNAME@@ says, "Come on, the book is fantasy! And it's a damn good read. I'd like the government to issue a statement of support for our teachers and librarians, so kids can enjoy good books without interference from religious wackos, like Christians.
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Postby Bombadil » Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:47 pm

Ms Hammel did say the school would not stand in the way of students reading Harry Potter at their parents’ discretion.

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Postby Pacomia » Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:47 pm

I say we ban the Bible because in it God cursed the Egyptians.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:49 pm

If the spells are real, the Fossil Fuel industry is holding back research on Portkeys.
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Postby Xmara » Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:50 pm

Really? This crap again? Most Harry Potter spells and curses are just wordplay and faux Latin.

Gormwood wrote: I would not be surprised if some embarrassing detail comes out about this reverend.


He's an embarrassment in his own right.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:51 pm

Pacomia wrote:I say we ban the Bible because in it God cursed the Egyptians.

And Saul got the Witch of Endor to raise the spirit of Samuel (I Samuel 28).
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Postby Pacomia » Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:53 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Pacomia wrote:I say we ban the Bible because in it God cursed the Egyptians.

And Saul got the Witch of Endor to raise the spirit of Samuel (I Samuel 28).

God, the hypocrisy of these guys.
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Postby Gormwood » Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:53 pm

Xmara wrote:Really? This crap again? Most Harry Potter spells and curses are just wordplay and faux Latin.

Gormwood wrote: I would not be surprised if some embarrassing detail comes out about this reverend.


He's an embarrassment in his own right.

I could feel the Trumpiness radiate from him when reading he claimed to have consulted Vatican exorcists and they supposedly told him the curses and spells were "real".
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Postby Pacomia » Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:57 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Xmara wrote:Really? This crap again? Most Harry Potter spells and curses are just wordplay and faux Latin.



He's an embarrassment in his own right.

I could feel the Trumpinese radiate from him when reading he claimed to have consulted Vatican exorcists and they supposedly told him the curses and spells were "real".

Because everyone knows that when you point a stick at someone and shout “Expeliarmus” they drop whatever they’re holding.
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Postby Godular » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:31 pm

Gormwood wrote:Obviously some people will want to use this as a soapbox to proclaim the overall ignorance of having religious beliefs. Just don't.


Not ignorance, no.

Willful bullshittery, oh hells yeah.
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Postby Duhon » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:38 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Pacomia wrote:I say we ban the Bible because in it God cursed the Egyptians.

And Saul got the Witch of Endor to raise the spirit of Samuel (I Samuel 28).


well unlike the bible, the name of god was not invoked/was called in vain [insert number of times here]! checkmate atheists!

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Postby Aclion » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:53 pm

Gormwood wrote:I would not be surprised if some embarrassing detail comes out about this reverend.

Maybe he's Umbridge's squib relative.
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Postby Duhon » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:54 pm

Aclion wrote:
Gormwood wrote:I would not be surprised if some embarrassing detail comes out about this reverend.

Maybe he's Umbridge's squib relative.


you mean "squid"
right?

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Postby Neko-koku » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:55 pm

This is actually a necessary consequence of Abrahamic religions. If you believe in Abrahamic monotheism you must oppose all other religions because it is literally the First Commandment in Torah & the first clause of the Shahada. Harry Porter and any other book involving non-Abrahamic magic is of course denounced as idolatry/shirk. Whether the magic/spells are real is irrelevant.

However from a non-monotheistic POV this is absurd. Seculars simply see it as harmless literature that shouldn't be banned for religious reasons and polytheists are likely to consider such a ban a product of religious intolerance.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:58 pm

No educated Catholic post enlightment thinks that books marketed as fiction contain real spells. This guy's a very odd exception
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Postby Neko-koku » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:00 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:No educated Catholic post enlightment thinks that books marketed as fiction contain real spells. This guy's a very odd exception

Whether it contains real spells is irrelevant to whether a consistent Abrahamic believer can accept it if we apply the principles of Abrahamic religions on polytheism.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:03 pm

Neko-koku wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:No educated Catholic post enlightment thinks that books marketed as fiction contain real spells. This guy's a very odd exception

Whether it contains real spells is irrelevant to whether a consistent Abrahamic believer can accept it if we apply the principles of Abrahamic religions on polytheism.

Condemning fiction is very different to considering it to be real.
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Australian rePublic wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:Whether it contains real spells is irrelevant to whether a consistent Abrahamic believer can accept it if we apply the principles of Abrahamic religions on polytheism.

Condemning fiction is very different to considering it to be real.

Right. That's another issue.

However many Abrahamic leaders understandably don't want to see HP at all, hence they don't really know what's there.
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Neko-koku wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Condemning fiction is very different to considering it to be real.

Right. That's another issue.

However many Abrahamic leaders understandably don't want to see HP at all, hence they don't really know what's there.

Mate, I myself am a Christian. I know what we Christians believe in
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Australian rePublic wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:Right. That's another issue.

However many Abrahamic leaders understandably don't want to see HP at all, hence they don't really know what's there.

Mate, I myself am a Christian. I know what we Christians believe in


You may ignore what pretty much 40-60% of Tanakh is but it is there. Tanakh is mostly about "NO PAGANISM! NO PAGANISM! NO PAGANISM!" That's something Christianity agrees with Judaism at even though Judaism considers Christianity itself to be idolatry (they call it avodah zarah). Not all Christian churches emphasize that but many do.
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Neko-koku wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Mate, I myself am a Christian. I know what we Christians believe in


You may ignore what pretty much 40-60% of Tanakh is but it is there. Tanakh is mostly about "NO PAGANISM! NO PAGANISM! NO PAGANISM!" Not all Christian churches emphasize that but many do.

Well ... Judeo-Christian belief is more like "No other gods," really. The Bible certainly recognizes the existence of other gods, it just warns followers of Yahweh not to worship them.
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Neko-koku wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Mate, I myself am a Christian. I know what we Christians believe in


You may ignore what pretty much 40-60% of Tanakh is but it is there. Tanakh is mostly about "NO PAGANISM! NO PAGANISM! NO PAGANISM!" Not all Christian churches emphasize that but many do.

I don't ignore the Old Testament. I've read and studied the OT. Are you questioning my knowledge of the OT?
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Farnhamia wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:
You may ignore what pretty much 40-60% of Tanakh is but it is there. Tanakh is mostly about "NO PAGANISM! NO PAGANISM! NO PAGANISM!" Not all Christian churches emphasize that but many do.

Well ... Judeo-Christian belief is more like "No other gods," really. The Bible certainly recognizes the existence of other gods, it just warns followers of Yahweh not to worship them.


Right even though Jewish and Christian scribes later tried to edit that out.
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