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by Aureumterra » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:37 pm
Surkiea II wrote:Aureumterra wrote:Not everyone who believes climate change thinks the world will end by 2030 or that the green new deal is the best way to solve everything, really not
Also calling Rojava a marxist
Fucking lol. The people pushing this agenda ARE Marxists, it's part of their plan to attack capitalism, this is pretty evident on how much they attack corporations for doing absolutely nothing wrong. Of course I don't expect some far left socialist like you to understand.
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:37 pm
by Surkiea II » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:38 pm
Samudera Darussalam wrote:Surkiea II wrote:Fucking lol. The people pushing this agenda ARE Marxists, it's part of their plan to attack capitalism, this is pretty evident on how much they attack corporations for doing absolutely nothing wrong. Of course I don't expect some far left socialist like you to understand.
Aureumterra is now a far left socialist? That's funny.
No, they are not marxists.
Rojava Free State wrote:Surkiea II wrote:Fucking lol. The people pushing this agenda ARE Marxists, it's part of their plan to attack capitalism, this is pretty evident on how much they attack corporations for doing absolutely nothing wrong. Of course I don't expect some far left socialist like you to understand.
This conspiracy theory has too many steps to be real. First off the democrats, the so called left party, are not anywhere near being marxists. They receive thousands of dollars a year in donations from wall street and support open immigration that benefits corporations. They're just as plutocrat controlled as the GOP. If there truly was an attack on corporate america, it would be put down immediately
Second off, not every one who disagrees with you is a damn commie. Many of us are libertarians which if anything makes us farther from stalin or mao than you are
by Samudera Darussalam » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:39 pm
by Rojava Free State » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:39 pm
Aureumterra wrote:The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:To be fair, world of the future currently looks pretty bleak.
Really depends on the context, that statement, overall the world is roughly in a better situation right now than at any point in historySurkiea II wrote:Fucking lol. The people pushing this agenda ARE Marxists, it's part of their plan to attack capitalism, this is pretty evident on how much they attack corporations for doing absolutely nothing wrong. Of course I don't expect some far left socialist like you to understand.
I have to give it to you, you aren’t actually the first person to call me socialist here
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by True Refuge » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:40 pm
Surkiea II wrote:Samudera Darussalam wrote:Aureumterra is now a far left socialist? That's funny.
No, they are not marxists.
Well considering how much he loves pushing left-wing agendas, yeah he is.
And they are Marxists.Rojava Free State wrote:
This conspiracy theory has too many steps to be real. First off the democrats, the so called left party, are not anywhere near being marxists. They receive thousands of dollars a year in donations from wall street and support open immigration that benefits corporations. They're just as plutocrat controlled as the GOP. If there truly was an attack on corporate america, it would be put down immediately
Second off, not every one who disagrees with you is a damn commie. Many of us are libertarians which if anything makes us farther from stalin or mao than you are
Considering that they have actual communists like Bernie Sanders, Tulsi Gabbard, AOC and Illhan Omar, the DNC are a bunch of far left radicals. And all they do is attack corporations and capitalism.
Stop acting like a damn commie and I won't call you one.
"One does not need to be surprised then, when 26 years later the outrageous slogan is repeated, which we Marxists burned all bridges with: to “pick up” the banner of the bourgeoisie. - International Communist Party, Dialogue with Stalin.
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:40 pm
by Rojava Free State » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:42 pm
Surkiea II wrote:Samudera Darussalam wrote:Aureumterra is now a far left socialist? That's funny.
No, they are not marxists.
Well considering how much he loves pushing left-wing agendas, yeah he is.
And they are Marxists.Rojava Free State wrote:
This conspiracy theory has too many steps to be real. First off the democrats, the so called left party, are not anywhere near being marxists. They receive thousands of dollars a year in donations from wall street and support open immigration that benefits corporations. They're just as plutocrat controlled as the GOP. If there truly was an attack on corporate america, it would be put down immediately
Second off, not every one who disagrees with you is a damn commie. Many of us are libertarians which if anything makes us farther from stalin or mao than you are
Considering that they have actual communists like Bernie Sanders, Tulsi Gabbard, AOC and Illhan Omar, the DNC are a bunch of far left radicals. And all they do is attack corporations and capitalism.
Stop acting like a damn commie and I won't call you one.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by True Refuge » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:48 pm
"One does not need to be surprised then, when 26 years later the outrageous slogan is repeated, which we Marxists burned all bridges with: to “pick up” the banner of the bourgeoisie. - International Communist Party, Dialogue with Stalin.
by Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:51 pm
Antityranicals wrote:Holy cow, mate, there is no scientific evidence for human-caused climate change! Such a thing is literally impossible, since we weren't collecting data before the late 1800s, so we have no reason to believe that any minor climate fluctuations aren't perfectly natural. In fact, we have quite a few reasons for believing that human-caused emissions have practically no effect on climate change. If we calculate every ounce of fossil fuels burned by humanity, (as accounted by "The Guardian," so there is no bias towards my stance, and likely substantial bias away from it) it would come out to about 1% of the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. And even if we ignore that, it is a known scientific fact that greater concentrations of CO2 decrease its effectiveness as a greenhouse gas at an exponential rate. But of course, the government and the all-but-state-run media have a different agenda, so we don't hear any of this, and instead get this myth of scientific consensus and human-caused climate change as a definite fact. It really ticks me off that people think that the methods which have brought about the most spectacular advances in human civilization are destroying the planet.
by Kowani » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:53 pm
by Internationalist Bastard » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:57 pm
by Antityranicals » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:58 pm
by Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:58 pm
Surkiea II wrote:Samudera Darussalam wrote:Aureumterra is now a far left socialist? That's funny.
No, they are not marxists.
Well considering how much he loves pushing left-wing agendas, yeah he is.
And they are Marxists.Rojava Free State wrote:
This conspiracy theory has too many steps to be real. First off the democrats, the so called left party, are not anywhere near being marxists. They receive thousands of dollars a year in donations from wall street and support open immigration that benefits corporations. They're just as plutocrat controlled as the GOP. If there truly was an attack on corporate america, it would be put down immediately
Second off, not every one who disagrees with you is a damn commie. Many of us are libertarians which if anything makes us farther from stalin or mao than you are
Considering that they have actual communists like Bernie Sanders, Tulsi Gabbard, AOC and Illhan Omar, the DNC are a bunch of far left radicals. And all they do is attack corporations and capitalism.
Stop acting like a damn commie and I won't call you one.
by Kowani » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:00 pm
Antityranicals wrote:Look. Science is impossible in this situation, given the obvious lack of control data. We weren't measuring before people were burning fossil fuels, so there's no data without fossil fuels. The best you can hope to come up with is a "the Earth is warming, we don't know why." Fossil fuel emissions is a hypothesis at best. What we DO have vague data on is that the earth warmed significantly about 1,000 years ago, increasing crop yields, and not causing a "global ecological collapse."
by True Refuge » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:03 pm
Kowani wrote:True Refuge wrote:
Really depends on what metrics you look at.
Looks like we're doing good, but really it's just the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.
Well…no. Extreme poverty has dropped, we’re living longer, malnutrition has dropped, War happens at a lower rate than since we were cavemen…
"One does not need to be surprised then, when 26 years later the outrageous slogan is repeated, which we Marxists burned all bridges with: to “pick up” the banner of the bourgeoisie. - International Communist Party, Dialogue with Stalin.
by US-SSR » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:04 pm
by Kowani » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:05 pm
True Refuge wrote:Kowani wrote:Well…no. Extreme poverty has dropped, we’re living longer, malnutrition has dropped, War happens at a lower rate than since we were cavemen…
No one except anarcho-primitivists think we had it better in caveman times. It's better to look at the path of our society throughout
There are quite a few Western nations on the brink of recession again (US, UK, and Australia being some examples), and we have situations like huge amounts of people living paycheque to paycheque (original report here). Not everyone is benefiting.
Personally, I think we are marginally better off due to technological advances offsetting financial situations.
by True Refuge » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:06 pm
Antityranicals wrote:Look. Science is impossible in this situation, given the obvious lack of control data. We weren't measuring before people were burning fossil fuels, so there's no data without fossil fuels. The best you can hope to come up with is a "the Earth is warming, we don't know why." Fossil fuel emissions is a hypothesis at best. What we DO have vague data on is that the earth warmed significantly about 1,000 years ago, increasing crop yields, and not causing a "global ecological collapse."
True Refuge wrote:Antityranicals wrote:No, what you are saying is "screw your actual concrete evidence, I can hide my preconceived notions behind pseudoscience!"True Refuge wrote:
I'd like a response to this please.
Pretty easy to say that when your position is unfalsifiable.
https://xkcd.com/1732/
"One does not need to be surprised then, when 26 years later the outrageous slogan is repeated, which we Marxists burned all bridges with: to “pick up” the banner of the bourgeoisie. - International Communist Party, Dialogue with Stalin.
by True Refuge » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:07 pm
Kowani wrote:True Refuge wrote:
No one except anarcho-primitivists think we had it better in caveman times. It's better to look at the path of our society throughout
There are quite a few Western nations on the brink of recession again (US, UK, and Australia being some examples), and we have situations like huge amounts of people living paycheque to paycheque (original report here). Not everyone is benefiting.
Personally, I think we are marginally better off due to technological advances offsetting financial situations.
Well, yeah. I’m not claiming we have it great. But “marginally” is too small a qualifier. We’re quite a lot better off.
"One does not need to be surprised then, when 26 years later the outrageous slogan is repeated, which we Marxists burned all bridges with: to “pick up” the banner of the bourgeoisie. - International Communist Party, Dialogue with Stalin.
by Surkiea II » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:10 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Calling any of those people communists is like calling ted Cruz a nazi. Nice way to jump the gun. Also they have next to no power in their party, so I don't even know why we talk about them.
As for attacking corporations, I think the corporations have done plenty to demonize themselves these last few years (automation, outsourcing, using illegal immigrant labor, lobbying both parties to relax anti trust laws and give tax breaks). You're probably one of the last people on both the right and the left defending these greedy fat cat crooks who don't give a dead moose's last shit about the American people. That doesn't make me a communist. It makes me legitimately outraged.
by Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:11 pm
Antityranicals wrote:Look. Science is impossible in this situation, given the obvious lack of control data. We weren't measuring before people were burning fossil fuels, so there's no data without fossil fuels. The best you can hope to come up with is a "the Earth is warming, we don't know why." Fossil fuel emissions is a hypothesis at best. What we DO have vague data on is that the earth warmed significantly about 1,000 years ago, increasing crop yields, and not causing a "global ecological collapse."
by Alien Overlord » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:20 pm
Walkerfort wrote:so...
Banning cars will lead to a clusterfuck of mininations everywhere and attempting to mash two Eras together miserably and 1984 style dictatorships
butterfly effect when give a butterfly cocaine
by Cenomannos infecisse santo Insel » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:20 pm
Surkiea II wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:Calling any of those people communists is like calling ted Cruz a nazi. Nice way to jump the gun. Also they have next to no power in their party, so I don't even know why we talk about them.
Because they are communists, the fact that you deny this is really telling.As for attacking corporations, I think the corporations have done plenty to demonize themselves these last few years (automation, outsourcing, using illegal immigrant labor, lobbying both parties to relax anti trust laws and give tax breaks). You're probably one of the last people on both the right and the left defending these greedy fat cat crooks who don't give a dead moose's last shit about the American people. That doesn't make me a communist. It makes me legitimately outraged.
If you're going to keep peddling this far-left, anti-capitalist, anti-corporatist and frankly anti-American horseshit, then I'm going to call you out for being a bloody Bolshevik.
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