by Bluelight-R006 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:51 am
by Galloism » Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:54 am
The person who replied stated, “I have a right to express my opinion, don’t I?” This got me thinking, do we [have a right to express our opinion if it hurts others]? If we upset other people by saying something ‘extremely offensive’ to a person or a group, do we have a right to express our opinion?
I feel that if a certain statement has the potential of hurting some people deeply, then it’s better to withhold that opinion from the public rather than express it. We have the rights to hold our own opinion, and maybe even asserverate it, but not go and force it or ‘attack’ others with it. It’s probably not best if we continue to defend that statement, as we may hurt others with our ignorance.
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:57 am
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by Andsed » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:05 am
by An Alan Smithee Nation » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:06 am
by The South Falls » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:07 am
by Dumb Ideologies » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:08 am
by Bluelight-R006 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:08 am
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Having a right to express your opinion and exercising it are two different things. As a rule of thumb I would suggest only upsetting other people when you have a reason to do so, not just for the sake of expressing yourself.
by Fourth Philippines » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:11 am
Bluelight-R006 wrote:I saw this reply by a person to a comment that shared his/her experience of facing the ‘odd’ death of a close one. The person who replied thought it was quite funny—the ‘odd’ manner in which the close one of the commenter has died—that (s)he decided to fight off anyone who disagreed with him/her strongly, which obviously there were many who were quite upset.
The person who replied stated, “I have a right to express my opinion, don’t I?” This got me thinking, do we [have a right to express our opinion if it hurts others]? If we upset other people by saying something ‘extremely offensive’ to a person or a group, do we have a right to express our opinion?
I feel that if a certain statement has the potential of hurting some people deeply, then it’s better to withhold that opinion from the public rather than express it. We have the rights to hold our own opinion, and maybe even asserverate it, but not go and force it or ‘attack’ others with it. It’s probably not best if we continue to defend that statement, as we may hurt others with our ignorance.
Then again, if someone asks for people’s opinions on the matter, then they should probably get what they’re asking for—the opinions they seek to hear no matter how wrong they may be.
It’s a mixed up thinking from me, and I can’t weight it out properly, so I’d like to hear some solid opinions from the NSG community.
by The New California Republic » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:17 am
Bluelight-R006 wrote:I saw this reply by a person to a comment that shared his/her experience of facing the ‘odd’ death of a close one. The person who replied thought it was quite funny—the ‘odd’ manner in which the close one of the commenter has died—that (s)he decided to fight off anyone who disagreed with him/her strongly, which obviously there were many who were quite upset.
by Teachian » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:20 am
by Andsed » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:22 am
The New California Republic wrote:Bluelight-R006 wrote:I saw this reply by a person to a comment that shared his/her experience of facing the ‘odd’ death of a close one. The person who replied thought it was quite funny—the ‘odd’ manner in which the close one of the commenter has died—that (s)he decided to fight off anyone who disagreed with him/her strongly, which obviously there were many who were quite upset.
There can be limits. If someone came into the church during the funeral and started insulting and mocking the deceased and laughing at the grief of the mourners, then I'm sure plenty of folk would say that really isn't acceptable.
by Galloism » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:23 am
Andsed wrote:The New California Republic wrote:There can be limits. If someone came into the church during the funeral and started insulting and mocking the deceased and laughing at the grief of the mourners, then I'm sure plenty of folk would say that really isn't acceptable.
Also that would probably fall under making a public disturbance with I believe (I am in no way a lawyer so please correct me if I am wrong) is a criminal offense and thus police would probably get involved.
by The British American Colonies » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:24 am
by The Sherpa Empire » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:27 am
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Having a right to express your opinion and exercising it are two different things. As a rule of thumb I would suggest only upsetting other people when you have a reason to do so, not just for the sake of expressing yourself.
by Republican President Donald J Trump USA » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:50 am
by The New California Republic » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:53 am
Republican President Donald J Trump USA wrote:Should everyone have a right to express their own opinion ?
While many say bad things on NS and the Mods thank them for reporting it and they punish them, I will never take a fellow nation before the Mod Gods and our Almighty Goddess Violet for any reasons even if it is a negative statement against me.
Without mentioning names, How dare I try to get a fellow nation's General or RP thread locked, it feels spammy, it feels bloggy, as it has happed to me a few times, then after they lost the case they had the nerve to come on my thread they did not like and try to get locked for whatever reasons and post their views, lol that was a classic but I hold no grudges.
How dare I tell a fellow nation what to post, what not to post and how to post it especially on their own threads, like was done to me, on my anti Cuban government thread for obvious reasons my pet issue on NS, a few fellow nations demanded I change my posts and links, when I politely refused they posted back we fixed your post for you and now it is correct, and reported me as the bad guy for anything they could think of, lol that was a classic, they are still on NS the last time I checked but I hold no grudges.
It makes me sick to see us reporting each other for anything we can think of, especially when the Mods say to them, not actionable, I don't see anything actionable, and many of them have very dirty records.
I respect everyone's right to their views and their rights to post them, I for one will never take a fellow nation before the Mod Gods and our Almighty Goddess Violet for any reasons, even if it is a negative statement against me, it is on my sigs.
I have a clean record that I am very proud of and wish to keep clean.
by Antityranicals » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:55 am
by Pacomia » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:56 am
by Republican President Donald J Trump USA » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:58 am
The New California Republic wrote:Republican President Donald J Trump USA wrote:Should everyone have a right to express their own opinion ?
While many say bad things on NS and the Mods thank them for reporting it and they punish them, I will never take a fellow nation before the Mod Gods and our Almighty Goddess Violet for any reasons even if it is a negative statement against me.
Without mentioning names, How dare I try to get a fellow nation's General or RP thread locked, it feels spammy, it feels bloggy, as it has happed to me a few times, then after they lost the case they had the nerve to come on my thread they did not like and try to get locked for whatever reasons and post their views, lol that was a classic but I hold no grudges.
How dare I tell a fellow nation what to post, what not to post and how to post it especially on their own threads, like was done to me, on my anti Cuban government thread for obvious reasons my pet issue on NS, a few fellow nations demanded I change my posts and links, when I politely refused they posted back we fixed your post for you and now it is correct, and reported me as the bad guy for anything they could think of, lol that was a classic, they are still on NS the last time I checked but I hold no grudges.
It makes me sick to see us reporting each other for anything we can think of, especially when the Mods say to them, not actionable, I don't see anything actionable, and many of them have very dirty records.
I respect everyone's right to their views and their rights to post them, I for one will never take a fellow nation before the Mod Gods and our Almighty Goddess Violet for any reasons, even if it is a negative statement against me, it is on my sigs.
I have a clean record that I am very proud of and wish to keep clean.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=faq#etiquette
by Rost Dreadnorramus » Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:02 am
Bluelight-R006 wrote:I saw this reply by a person to a comment that shared his/her experience of facing the ‘odd’ death of a close one. The person who replied thought it was quite funny—the ‘odd’ manner in which the close one of the commenter has died—that (s)he decided to fight off anyone who disagreed with him/her strongly, which obviously there were many who were quite upset.
The person who replied stated, “I have a right to express my opinion, don’t I?” This got me thinking, do we [have a right to express our opinion if it hurts others]? If we upset other people by saying something ‘extremely offensive’ to a person or a group, do we have a right to express our opinion?
I feel that if a certain statement has the potential of hurting some people deeply, then it’s better to withhold that opinion from the public rather than express it. We have the rights to hold our own opinion, and maybe even asserverate it, but not go and force it or ‘attack’ others with it. It’s probably not best if we continue to defend that statement, as we may hurt others with our ignorance.
Then again, if someone asks for people’s opinions on the matter, then they should probably get what they’re asking for—the opinions they seek to hear no matter how wrong they may be.
It’s a mixed up thinking from me, and I can’t weight it out properly, so I’d like to hear some solid opinions from the NSG community.
by Vivolkha » Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:02 am
The fact that something may be offensive should not be used as an excuse to ban it, as the most powerful elements of the state and society typically decide what constitutes offensive speech under such laws, and repressive regimes around the world have abused this power to silence their critics, persecute vulnerable minorities, and maintain their own positions. If any group can block speech they disagree with, democratic debate and diversity of thought become impossible.
by Antityranicals » Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:03 am
Vivolkha wrote:Quoting from this article: https://freedomhouse.org/blog/terrorism ... sion-spainThe fact that something may be offensive should not be used as an excuse to ban it, as the most powerful elements of the state and society typically decide what constitutes offensive speech under such laws, and repressive regimes around the world have abused this power to silence their critics, persecute vulnerable minorities, and maintain their own positions. If any group can block speech they disagree with, democratic debate and diversity of thought become impossible.
"Safe spaces", "hate speech" laws and so on make no sense and are a threat to freedom of speech and to quality democracy.
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