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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:10 pm

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Seeing as how the Bolshevik hordes will rape and murder all of us, I will actually be helping to stop AIDS by fighting them. ;)

Wait, but if we're all murdered by the Bolsheviks, how are people going to have AIDS anyway?
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:11 pm

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Preemptive and retroactive blast from the past

Unfortunatly Ifreann hasnt yet answered ^^

I saw your post, but there wasn't a question to answer and I think I've reiterated the point I was making there enough.


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Postby Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:11 pm

My stance on Antifa:
Antifa is the natural reaction against the recent spate in white supremacist terrorism across the United States, especially so after the Gamergate incident and the election of Donald J. Trump to the presidency. As the following quotes state:
"Or, alternatively, if they had from the first day annihilated with the utmost brutality the nucleus of our new movement." - An excerpt from a speech by Adolf Hitler.
“If the enemy had known how weak we were, it would probably have reduced us to jelly … It would have crushed in blood the very beginning of our work.” - Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:12 pm

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No, pls, don't. It's been reported in moderation because reasons D':
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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:13 pm

Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:Antifa is the natural reaction against the recent spate in white supremacist terrorism across the United States, especially so after the Gamergate incident and the election of Donald J. Trump to the presidency. As the following quotes state:
"Or, alternatively, if they had from the first day annihilated with the utmost brutality the nucleus of our new movement." - An excerpt from a speech by Adolf Hitler
“If the enemy had known how weak we were, it would probably have reduced us to jelly … It would have crushed in blood the very beginning of our work.” - Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels.

Yes, bike locks are a natural reaction
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Postby Nakena » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:13 pm

Kowani wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Preemptive and retroactive blast from the past

Unfortunatly Ifreann hasnt yet answered ^^

Eh. With how fast these pages have been moving…


Yes. I have been fast as first on the matter and as another poster commented earlier on me I do make "NASCAR drivers look like amateurs". ^^

As you see, I am quite advanced on the topic and did my homework and came to the same conclusions as the rest here did before.

Andy Ngo is an hack.

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:13 pm

Liriena wrote:
Ginicun wrote:Antifas a garbage slacktivist movements, and in those moments where they stop being slacktivists, they turn fascist.

"Fascism is when someone is violent. And the more violent they are, the fascister they are." - Benito Mussolini, 1922

I guess that means the American Revolution was super fascist.
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:14 pm

Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:My stance on Antifa:
Antifa is the natural reaction against the recent spate in white supremacist terrorism across the United States, especially so after the Gamergate incident and the election of Donald J. Trump to the presidency. As the following quotes state:
"Or, alternatively, if they had from the first day annihilated with the utmost brutality the nucleus of our new movement." - An excerpt from a speech by Adolf Hitler.
“If the enemy had known how weak we were, it would probably have reduced us to jelly … It would have crushed in blood the very beginning of our work.” - Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels.


Then why don't they join the anti-gun lobby like most level-headed people rather than looking for fights everywhere?
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Postby Liriena » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:14 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:Antifa is the natural reaction against the recent spate in white supremacist terrorism across the United States, especially so after the Gamergate incident and the election of Donald J. Trump to the presidency. As the following quotes state:
"Or, alternatively, if they had from the first day annihilated with the utmost brutality the nucleus of our new movement." - An excerpt from a speech by Adolf Hitler
“If the enemy had known how weak we were, it would probably have reduced us to jelly … It would have crushed in blood the very beginning of our work.” - Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels.

Yes, bike locks are a natural reaction

The antifa bike lock guy was two years ago. Move on already.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:16 pm

Liriena wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:100% sigging this quality nugget.

No, pls, don't. It's been reported in moderation because reasons D':

Oh
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Postby Cerinda » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:17 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Liriena wrote:"Fascism is when someone is violent. And the more violent they are, the fascister they are." - Benito Mussolini, 1922

I guess that means the American Revolution was super fascist.

Well one American Nazi did call George Washington the "first fascist" lol.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:18 pm

Liriena wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:100% sigging this quality nugget.

No, pls, don't. It's been reported in moderation because reasons D':

I think the post is stupid, but I don't see it as an "All X are [insert vile comment here]" trolling. I don't think the moderators will either.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:19 pm

Nakena wrote:
Kowani wrote:Eh. With how fast these pages have been moving…


Yes. I have been fast as first on the matter and as another poster commented earlier on me I do make "NASCAR drivers look like amateurs". ^^

As you see, I am quite advanced on the topic and did my homework and came to the same conclusions as the rest here did before.

Andy Ngo is an hack.

:roll: :lol2:

Humble, too. :p

But yes.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:19 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Liriena wrote:No, pls, don't. It's been reported in moderation because reasons D':

I think the post is stupid, but I don't see it as an "All X are [insert vile comment here]" trolling.

[shrug]

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The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:I guess that means the American Revolution was super fascist.

Well one American Nazi did call George Washington the "first fascist" lol.

Nazis and stealing valor. Name a more iconic duo.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:21 pm

Cerinda wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:I guess that means the American Revolution was super fascist.

Well one American Nazi did call George Washington the "first fascist" lol.

Weren't they the German-American Bund? I recall reading they adopted that position.

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:23 pm

Cerinda wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:I guess that means the American Revolution was super fascist.

Well one American Nazi did call George Washington the "first fascist" lol.

Ironic considering Washington, generally speaking, fought for freedom and fascists have historically not fought for freedom.
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Postby Nakena » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:23 pm

Sancturia wrote:Here's my take on this: As a left-leaning independent I know for a fact that Antifa is a decentralized anarcho-communist group and that they are nowhere near being fascists. Their name Antifa comes from the words Anti and Fascist. Therefore Anti-Fascist or Antifa. I absolutely do not support violence. They're not fascists, but they are certainly violent. Like what OP said they engage in harassment, physical violence, and property damage. By Antifa's logic if they're fine with harassing and beating up people for perceiving or thinking them to be fascist (cause Bash the Fash is cool bruh, that's very progressive of you), let alone conservative or anyone right of the political spectrum, then by that logic anyone who is perceived to be a communist, let alone a socialist or a social liberal or anyone left of the political spectrum should be beaten up and harassed for their political views. Acts like glitter bombing and egg shelling should be considered violence and a criminal act of assault and battery. Antifa are criminals. As a left-leaning independent no one should join them and if you are a part of Antifa or identify as one of them then we leftists should disown you and distance ourselves away from you. I have no respect for you. Shame on you. You're making us look bad. You're making the left look bad. Stop it. We should be tolerant of each other regardless if they have different political views from your own. Just stop it.

I'm aware that Andy Ngo got beaten up and sent to the hospital and I feel sorry for the guy. He may have different views from mine but I wouldn't beat him.


Thank you for your post, and thats exactly the problem I have with Antifa and also echos my own experiences.

Kowani wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Yes. I have been fast as first on the matter and as another poster commented earlier on me I do make "NASCAR drivers look like amateurs". ^^

As you see, I am quite advanced on the topic and did my homework and came to the same conclusions as the rest here did before.

Andy Ngo is an hack.

:roll: :lol2:

Humble, too. :p

But yes.


Gotta keep up with myself don't I? ^^

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Cerinda wrote:Well one American Nazi did call George Washington the "first fascist" lol.

Weren't they the German-American Bund? I recall reading they adopted that position.


Yes. It was them.

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Postby Cerinda » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:26 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Cerinda wrote:Well one American Nazi did call George Washington the "first fascist" lol.

Weren't they the German-American Bund? I recall reading they adopted that position.

Yeah they're the ones who did the "Pro American Rally" where their leader stood on a podium surrounded with American flags and a giant 30ft portrait of George Washington behind him.

Now that's how you do a rally, fuck that Charlottesville shit.
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Postby Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:35 pm

SD_Film Artists wrote:
Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:My stance on Antifa:
Antifa is the natural reaction against the recent spate in white supremacist terrorism across the United States, especially so after the Gamergate incident and the election of Donald J. Trump to the presidency. As the following quotes state:
"Or, alternatively, if they had from the first day annihilated with the utmost brutality the nucleus of our new movement." - An excerpt from a speech by Adolf Hitler.
“If the enemy had known how weak we were, it would probably have reduced us to jelly … It would have crushed in blood the very beginning of our work.” - Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels.


Then why don't they join the anti-gun lobby like most level-headed people rather than looking for fights everywhere?

Probably because gun control was notably proposed by Ronald Reagan in 1967 in order to disarm the Black Panthers who were protecting their communities from wanton police brutality and possible attacks by white supremacists.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:36 pm

Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:
SD_Film Artists wrote:
Then why don't they join the anti-gun lobby like most level-headed people rather than looking for fights everywhere?

Probably because gun control was notably proposed by Ronald Reagan in 1967 in order to disarm the Black Panthers who were protecting their communities from wanton police brutality and possible attacks by white supremacists.

The Black Panthers were a racist organization so that's not too terrible.
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Postby Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:43 pm

Probably because gun control was notably proposed by Ronald Reagan in 1967 in order to disarm the Black Panthers who were protecting their communities from wanton police brutality and possible attacks by white supremacists.

The Black Panthers were a racist organization so that's not too terrible.

I don't think so. See below:
"Shortening its name to the Black Panther Party, the organization immediately sought to set itself apart from African American cultural nationalist organizations, such as the Universal Negro Improvement Association and the Nation of Islam, to which it was commonly compared. Although the groups shared certain philosophical positions and tactical features, the Black Panther Party and cultural nationalists differed on a number of basic points. For instance, whereas African American cultural nationalists generally regarded all white people as oppressors, the Black Panther Party distinguished between racist and nonracist whites and allied themselves with progressive members of the latter group."
Source: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Black-Panther-Party

Yeah, definitely racist and anti-white. Maybe you confused it with the New Black Panthers? Because that organization has been denounced by Huey P. Newton's foundation itself as "falsely appropriating the Black Panther Party's name for their own goals". Here is said quote:
"In response from numerous requests from individual's seeking information on the "New Black Panthers," the Dr. Huey P. Newton Foundation issues this public statement to correct the distorted record being made in the media by a small band of African Americans calling themselves the New Black Panthers. As guardian of the true history of the Black Panther Party, the Foundation, which includes former leading members of the Party, denounces this group's exploitation of the Party's name and history. Failing to find its own legitimacy in the black community, this band would graft the Party's name upon itself, which we condemn."
Source: https://bennorton.com/huey-p-newton-fou ... her-party/
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Postby Liriena » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:44 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Liriena wrote:No, pls, don't. It's been reported in moderation because reasons D':

Oh

Update: now you can sig it :P
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Postby Purgatio » Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:44 pm

Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:
Probably because gun control was notably proposed by Ronald Reagan in 1967 in order to disarm the Black Panthers who were protecting their communities from wanton police brutality and possible attacks by white supremacists.

The Black Panthers were a racist organization so that's not too terrible.

I don't think so. See below:
"Shortening its name to the Black Panther Party, the organization immediately sought to set itself apart from African American cultural nationalist organizations, such as the Universal Negro Improvement Association and the Nation of Islam, to which it was commonly compared. Although the groups shared certain philosophical positions and tactical features, the Black Panther Party and cultural nationalists differed on a number of basic points. For instance, whereas African American cultural nationalists generally regarded all white people as oppressors, the Black Panther Party distinguished between racist and nonracist whites and allied themselves with progressive members of the latter group."
Source: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Black-Panther-Party

Yeah, definitely racist and anti-white. Maybe you confused it with the New Black Panthers? Because that organization has been denounced by Huey P. Newton's foundation itself as "falsely appropriating the Black Panther Party's name for their own goals". Here is said quote:
"In response from numerous requests from individual's seeking information on the "New Black Panthers," the Dr. Huey P. Newton Foundation issues this public statement to correct the distorted record being made in the media by a small band of African Americans calling themselves the New Black Panthers. As guardian of the true history of the Black Panther Party, the Foundation, which includes former leading members of the Party, denounces this group's exploitation of the Party's name and history. Failing to find its own legitimacy in the black community, this band would graft the Party's name upon itself, which we condemn."
Source: https://bennorton.com/huey-p-newton-fou ... her-party/


No but the Black Panther Party was definitely murderous and homicidal and killed a lot of people they didn't like or who they believed opposed or obstructed their political goals in any way.
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Postby Cerinda » Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:50 pm

Purgatio wrote:No but the Black Panther Party was definitely murderous and homicidal and killed a lot of people they didn't like or who they believed opposed or obstructed their political goals in any way.

I'm sure you can provide some examples of this.
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