LWDT 7: The Earth and Heavens Tremble.

[Chernoslavia]

It's because their ideology is pointless. "Muh Freedom"

But why freedom?

Freedom is of no inherent value.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

No, I said, restricting money from being donated to public officials does not contradict my view of freedom.

Ah, okay. Then I'd say that we have different definitions, perhaps, of freedom.

Mine is personal and economic autonomy as much as humanly and reasonably possible. I just have a more anti-corruption attitude to politics, as I know megadoners create a system of cronyism.

[Kowani]

Yay.

You should be the next OP.

By Satan, no! lol2:

Freedom is of no inherent value.

Compelling.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

Ah, okay. Then I'd say that we have different definitions, perhaps, of freedom.

Mine is personal and economic autonomy as much as humanly and reasonably possible. I just have a more anti-corruption attitude to politics, as I know megadoners create a system of cronyism.

Doesn't that "as much as possible" run into your opinion on money in politics?

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

So who's the OP of LWDT VIII?

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

So who's the OP of LWDT VIII?

I vote Kowani

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Mine is personal and economic autonomy as much as humanly and reasonably possible. I just have a more anti-corruption attitude to politics, as I know megadoners create a system of cronyism.

Doesn't that "as much as possible" run into your opinion on money in politics?

Not in my case. I said "humanly and reasonably possible," I don't think having a system run by megadoners is reasonable. It is just legalized corruption.

[Chernoslavia]

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Compelling.[/quote]

Likewise.

[New haven america]

Ah, okay. Then I'd say that we have different definitions, perhaps, of freedom.

Mine is personal and economic autonomy as much as humanly and reasonably possible. I just have a more anti-corruption attitude to politics, as I know megadoners create a system of cronyism.

That's an oxymoron.

You can't have total economic autonomy while also disallowing politicians from getting funded by megadonors. They're spending and making money how they choose to.

[Torrocca]

So who's the OP of LWDT VIII?

I vote Kowani

I also vote Kowani o/

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

Doesn't that "as much as possible" run into your opinion on money in politics?

Not in my case. I said "humanly and reasonably possible," I don't think having a system run by megadoners is reasonable. It is just legalized corruption.

What if I were to shift my definition of "reasonable" further south, so to speak? Would that be, in your mind, acceptable?

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Mine is personal and economic autonomy as much as humanly and reasonably possible. I just have a more anti-corruption attitude to politics, as I know megadoners create a system of cronyism.

That's an oxymoron.

You can't have total economic autonomy while also disallowing politicians from getting funded by megadonors. They're spending and making money how they choose to.

Alright, that is one of my only restrictions on economic autonomy. Sue me for using imperfect language.

[Kowani]

So who's the OP of LWDT VIII?

I vote Kowani

Noppetty nope nope.

I vote Kowani

I also vote Kowani o/

Not happening.

[New haven america]

That's an oxymoron.

You can't have total economic autonomy while also disallowing politicians from getting funded by megadonors. They're spending and making money how they choose to.

Alright, that is one of my only restrictions on economic autonomy. Sue me for using imperfect language.

I will.

[Kowani]

Compelling.

Likewise.

Well, Xeno knows my views on freedom. I see no reason to bore her explaining everything again.

[Torrocca]

I vote Kowani

Noppetty nope nope.

I also vote Kowani o/

Not happening.

Ah, shit, our next OP's not accepting the outcome of our spontaneous electoral system of governance. It's time for a revolution against this blatant display of tyranny!

[New haven america]

I vote for Kowani.

[Kowani]

Noppetty nope nope.



Not happening.

Ah, shit, our next OP's not accepting the outcome of our spontaneous electoral system of governance. It's time for a revolution against this blatant display of tyranny!

If I’m doing it, nobody complain about how absolutely crappy it turns out.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Not in my case. I said "humanly and reasonably possible," I don't think having a system run by megadoners is reasonable. It is just legalized corruption.

What if I were to shift my definition of "reasonable" further south, so to speak? Would that be, in your mind, acceptable?

I don't know what you view as reasonable. Maybe or maybe not. Either way, I don't support megadoners controlling politics and I support restrictions on donations as a result, and if my language is imprecise, I'll fix it.

[Chernoslavia]

Likewise.

Well, Xeno knows my views on freedom. I see no reason to bore her explaining everything again.

Who..?

[New haven america]

What if I were to shift my definition of "reasonable" further south, so to speak? Would that be, in your mind, acceptable?

I don't know what you view as reasonable. Maybe or maybe not. Either way, I don't support megadoners controlling politics and I support restrictions on donations as a result, and if my language is imprecise, I'll fix it.

Why?

They're not controlling politics, they're simply spending their money as they please, as private citizens are allowed to do.

[Kowani]

Well, Xeno knows my views on freedom. I see no reason to bore her explaining everything again.

Who..?

…Actually, that should say Jean Paul Sartre. My bad.

But the point remains.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Ah, shit, our next OP's not accepting the outcome of our spontaneous electoral system of governance. It's time for a revolution against this blatant display of tyranny!

If I’m doing it, nobody complain about how absolutely crappy it turns out.

I'm thinking of quoting Torrocca into a new thread OP as a temp OP, and editing out the finer points of a new OP later. Assuming no one else wants to be OP.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=470883

Suggestions for the OP title/poll/whatever are welcome there. I'm also comfortable with the OP being transferred to someone else.

[Pacomia]

Goodnight thread.