Why are Antisemites so weird?

[Cappuccina]

And here we have the inevitable neonazi, even though he probably brands himself differently.

What more do people want? I've made it clear enough that I like the state of Israel and have a use for them as the ideal homeland for the world's Jewish population and a good trading partner/decent nation overall. What I don't have a use for or don't like, are the Jews in the US and elsewhere whom are too Leftist or are anti-Zionist.

I don't generally agree with your views, but it's a bad formula to ask "what more" do your ideological opponents want. You have your positions on Jews, they don't like that, it's simply that.

[Rojava Free State]

And here we have the inevitable neonazi, even though he probably brands himself differently.

What more do people want? I've made it clear enough that I like the state of Israel and have a use for them as the ideal homeland for the world's Jewish population and a good trading partner/decent nation overall. What I don't have a use for or don't like, are the Jews in the US and elsewhere whom are too Leftist or are anti-Zionist.

"Decent nation": https://prepareforchange.net/2019/03/11 ... s-in-gaza/

[Neko-koku]

I can easily justify radical Zionism. Do you want to hear that?

The holocaust doesn't give a Jewish person the right to run people out of their homes, massacre civilians and drag American into numerous wars worldwide. Also Judaism is a religion and half these Jews in Israel are clearly europeans with next to no connection to the land.

Notice how all the Israel supporters are fine with the country being an "officially jewish" state, but would lose their shit if America was an officially white country. They want nothing more than to subjugate non jews both in Israel and abroad, and I can't stand for their racist ideology

What I really feel interesting about is the fact that the left, the right and Muslims I have encountered here almost all use the same premise and the premise is completely different from mine. namely to all people above tribes are interchangeable and there is no inherent difference between rejecting Jews and rejecting Africans since both are just rejecting people due to identities.

This is also really frustrating. I'm not really sure whether it is because people from most of the world simply can not understand my line of thought which might indeed be uniquely Sinic or because I'm not explaining it well.

[Rojava Free State]

The holocaust doesn't give a Jewish person the right to run people out of their homes, massacre civilians and drag American into numerous wars worldwide. Also Judaism is a religion and half these Jews in Israel are clearly europeans with next to no connection to the land.

Notice how all the Israel supporters are fine with the country being an "officially jewish" state, but would lose their shit if America was an officially white country. They want nothing more than to subjugate non jews both in Israel and abroad, and I can't stand for their racist ideology

What I really feel interesting about is the fact that the left, the right and Muslims I have encountered here almost all use the same premise and the premise is completely different from mine. namely to all people above tribes are interchangeable and there is no inherent difference between rejecting Jews and rejecting Africans since both are just rejecting people due to identities.

There isn't a difference. When a bulldozer comes to tear your house down and replace it with a settlement for other people based on their race, it doesn't matter that the driver is Jewish and had relatives who were victims of dachau. you shouldnt tear people's homes down and push them out. I don't know why this is hard for Zionists to understand

Oh wait, cause they think they're better than all of us

[Saiwania]

So its a matter of "stay in your own lane" for you?

Exactly. There is room enough in this world for White nationalism and Zionism to not be diametically opposed.

One such example of the Jews I don't like, are those protestors who tried to interfere with that ICE facility in Rhode Island. I can honestly say that I hate them and if given the governmental power, I'd do what it takes to disperse them as needed. The crack down should be so fierce, the entire protest group would disband if not refrain from blocking roads in the future.

People have more of a right to use the roads unobstructed than they have any right to their disturbing of the peace.

[Ifreann]

Probably because the irrational hated of something requires an irrational thought process to make sense.

Extremely valid point.

[Neko-koku]

What I really feel interesting about is the fact that the left, the right and Muslims I have encountered here almost all use the same premise and the premise is completely different from mine. namely to all people above tribes are interchangeable and there is no inherent difference between rejecting Jews and rejecting Africans since both are just rejecting people due to identities.

There isn't a difference. When a bulldozer comes to tear your house down and replace it with a settlement for other people based on their race, it doesn't matter that the driver is Jewish and had relatives who were victims of dachau. you shouldnt tear people's homes down and push them out. I don't know why this is hard for Zionists to understand

Oh wait, cause they think they're better than all of us

Nah. There is a huge difference between transforming a place into another Tel Aviv and transforming a place into another Kinshasa. I'm really not sure whether you are inherently incapable of seeing the difference or...

[Neko-koku]

What I really feel interesting about is the fact that the left, the right and Muslims I have encountered here almost all use the same premise and the premise is completely different from mine. namely to all people above tribes are interchangeable and there is no inherent difference between rejecting Jews and rejecting Africans since both are just rejecting people due to identities.

There isn't a difference. When a bulldozer comes to tear your house down and replace it with a settlement for other people based on their race, it doesn't matter that the driver is Jewish and had relatives who were victims of dachau. you shouldnt tear people's homes down and push them out. I don't know why this is hard for Zionists to understand

Oh wait, cause they think they're better than all of us

Question: Which tribe has the most Nobel Prizes in science per capita?

[Rojava Free State]

There isn't a difference. When a bulldozer comes to tear your house down and replace it with a settlement for other people based on their race, it doesn't matter that the driver is Jewish and had relatives who were victims of dachau. you shouldnt tear people's homes down and push them out. I don't know why this is hard for Zionists to understand

Oh wait, cause they think they're better than all of us

Nah. There is a huge difference between transforming a place into another Tel Aviv and transforming a place into another Kinshasa. I'm really not sure whether you are inherently incapable of seeing the difference or...

No one is asking to be kicked out of their homes and to have their neighborhood turned into tel Aviv dude. No one. The Arabs who have lived there for thousands of years, most of whom are descended from pre Arab lineages, have a right to live where they live. They have a right to not be randomly shot by soldiers or beat by police. And most importantly they have a right to a state of their own, at least as much as Israel has a right to be. The blatant hypocrisy of the Zionists is disappointing. They demand every one respect their sovereignty but then proceed to violate the sovereignty of Lebanon, Syria and Egypt directly and the US indirectly, and they deny sovereignty for the palestinians. As far as I'm concerned, they shouldn't expect to make friends when all they do is look down on every one else and expect us to grovel.

[Neko-koku]

Nah. There is a huge difference between transforming a place into another Tel Aviv and transforming a place into another Kinshasa. I'm really not sure whether you are inherently incapable of seeing the difference or...

No one is asking to be kicked out of their homes and to have their neighborhood turned into tel Aviv dude. No one. The Arabs who have lived there for thousands of years, most of whom are descended from pre Arab lineages, have a right to live where they live. They have a right to not be randomly shot by soldiers or beat by police. And most importantly they have a right to a state of their own, at least as much as Israel has a right to be. The blatant hypocrisy of the Zionists is disappointing. They demand every one respect their sovereignty but then proceed to violate the sovereignty of Lebanon, Syria and Egypt directly and the US indirectly, and they deny sovereignty for the palestinians. As far as I'm concerned, they shouldn't expect to make friends when all they do is look down on every one else and expect us to grovel.

You actually have an argument. To strengthen your claim you should mention the fact that most Palestinians probably have Sephardic Jewish ancestry.

[Rojava Free State]

There isn't a difference. When a bulldozer comes to tear your house down and replace it with a settlement for other people based on their race, it doesn't matter that the driver is Jewish and had relatives who were victims of dachau. you shouldnt tear people's homes down and push them out. I don't know why this is hard for Zionists to understand

Oh wait, cause they think they're better than all of us

Question: Which tribe has the most Nobel Prizes in science per capita?

Who has lost most of the wars they fought in history? No jew or anyone else for the matter is gonna stick their nose down at me. They can take their blue and white flag and screw off

[Electic]

So its a matter of "stay in your own lane" for you?

Exactly. There is room enough in this world for White nationalism and Zionism to not be diametically opposed.

One such example of the Jews I don't like, are those protestors who tried to interfere with that ICE facility in Rhode Island. I can honestly say that I hate them and if given the governmental power, I'd do what it takes to disperse them as needed. The crack down would be so fierce, the entire protest group would disband. Never Again Action would ironically never again, be a thing. I'd aspire to have even the Chinese government be impressed with how quickly an opposition group was resolved.

Well, that went to an 11. I think the attractive promo of force to deal with issues is something that has always discounted Fascism to me. Like, the fact that you would want to immedietly deal with them violently and not talk with them as you have with me, is mind boggling.

[Rojava Free State]

No one is asking to be kicked out of their homes and to have their neighborhood turned into tel Aviv dude. No one. The Arabs who have lived there for thousands of years, most of whom are descended from pre Arab lineages, have a right to live where they live. They have a right to not be randomly shot by soldiers or beat by police. And most importantly they have a right to a state of their own, at least as much as Israel has a right to be. The blatant hypocrisy of the Zionists is disappointing. They demand every one respect their sovereignty but then proceed to violate the sovereignty of Lebanon, Syria and Egypt directly and the US indirectly, and they deny sovereignty for the palestinians. As far as I'm concerned, they shouldn't expect to make friends when all they do is look down on every one else and expect us to grovel.

You actually have an argument. To strengthen your claim you should mention the fact that most Palestinians probably have Sephardic Jewish ancestry.

That's what I was getting at. The Palestinians are basically arabized Jews (and whoever else lived in Israel). They aren't interlopers. Yet the Zionists treat them like aliens when they're more like distant cousins

[Saiwania]

Well, that went to an 11. I think the attractive promo of force to deal with issues is something that has always discounted Fascism to me. Like, the fact that you would want to immedietly deal with them violently and not talk with them as you have with me, is mind boggling.

In the moment, I was too angry. But yes- I don't view them as peaceful protestors or whatever heroes liberals hail them to be. What I see instead is a wretched mob that was disturbing the peace and preventing people from going to their place of employment, along with interfering with normal traffic.

[Hurdergaryp]

And here we have the inevitable neonazi, even though he probably brands himself differently.

What more do people want? I've made it clear enough that I like the state of Israel and have a use for them as the ideal homeland for the world's Jewish population and a good trading partner/decent nation overall. What I don't have a use for or don't like, are the Jews in the US and elsewhere whom are too Leftist or are anti-Zionist.

Look, we all know where the term "cultural marxism" comes from. Don't play coy with us. Use the buzzwords, get recognized for what you are.

[Ifreann]

There isn't a difference. When a bulldozer comes to tear your house down and replace it with a settlement for other people based on their race, it doesn't matter that the driver is Jewish and had relatives who were victims of dachau. you shouldnt tear people's homes down and push them out. I don't know why this is hard for Zionists to understand

Oh wait, cause they think they're better than all of us

Question: Which tribe has the most Nobel Prizes in science per capita?

The Faroese.

[Neko-koku]

You actually have an argument. To strengthen your claim you should mention the fact that most Palestinians probably have Sephardic Jewish ancestry.

That's what I was getting at. The Palestinians are basically arabized Jews (and whoever else lived in Israel). They aren't interlopers. Yet the Zionists treat them like aliens when they're more like distant cousins

Now I think the issue goes much deeper. The typical Sinic reaction to social issues tends to be bureaucratic while reactions everywhere else are player-based. That is, Sinic solutions generally completely disregard everyone's rights but instead view everything from the POV of a manager of a society who can violate all rights with impunity.

There are of course two implications:

1. In Sinic societies only bureaucrats can decide anything and everyone must obey bureaucrats no matter how weird their decisions are. (Hence rights don't exist)

2. In Sinic societies the bureaucracy is open to all and everyone is encouraged to think about social issues as potential bureaucrats.

In free societies people and social groups make many decisions and can override bureaucrats hence most conflicts are between people and people. In moderate authoritarian ones people and bureaucrats can have conflicts however bureaucrats still can't override everyone else's decisions. In Sinic societies bureaucrats rule and everyone else simply drools....so much that people don't think anything other than the Leviathan can make any decisions about public affairs, that everyone who want to make such decisions need to join the Leviathan and that non-bureaucratic entities making decisions is odd and confusing.

[Wallenburg]

So its a matter of "stay in your own lane" for you?

Exactly. There is room enough in this world for White nationalism and Zionism to not be diametically opposed.

One such example of the Jews I don't like, are those protestors who tried to interfere with that ICE facility in Rhode Island. I can honestly say that I hate them and if given the governmental power, I'd do what it takes to disperse them as needed. The crack down should be so fierce, the entire protest group would disband if not refrain from blocking roads in the future.

People have more of a right to use the roads unobstructed than they have any right to their disturbing of the peace.

Neo-Nazi wants Jewish protesters murdered for protesting concentration camps. This is hardly surprising.

[Nakena]

Exactly.
I don't get why that's so hard to grasp.

It raises many questions. There's the issue with why, specifically, a (blood) sacrifice is required. What connection does forgiveness have to someone being killed? Pondering it, there's actually something quite grotesque about the idea that my forgiveness depends on the bloody and tortured sacrifice of another. And man's sinful nature would appear to be God's mistake, if God is the one that endowed us with free will, as Christians themselves like to point out.

How about sacrificing an goat?

[Kowani]

It raises many questions. There's the issue with why, specifically, a (blood) sacrifice is required. What connection does forgiveness have to someone being killed? Pondering it, there's actually something quite grotesque about the idea that my forgiveness depends on the bloody and tortured sacrifice of another. And man's sinful nature would appear to be God's mistake, if God is the one that endowed us with free will, as Christians themselves like to point out.

How about sacrificing an goat?

Nak, it’s not a literal scapegoat.