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by Fauxia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:33 am
by Aclion » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:46 am
Qwabour Harbour wrote:Fauxia wrote:I suggest you wait a while on this, so as not to maximize opposition by submitting while there is an active draft of Repeal GA #286 being drafted. Plus, it may give UM a chance to add a resolution or two.
Would you care to elaborate?
UM does not comply with WA rules, he should not be awarded officially by the WA as he is violating international law
by New Jakobly » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:17 am
Aclion wrote:By that standard no WA nation should be commended, since it's impossible to be compliant with all the WA resolution simultaneously.
by Marxist Germany » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:39 am
by WayNeacTia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:19 pm
Fauxia wrote:The SC is not really an IC assembly so it does not apply that it doesn’t make sense in a real world that UM would be commended by it. And UM roleplays as having consequences for violating WA law. He’s playing realistically and he’s done enough (probably) to warrant a commendation.
RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac
wait
by Fauxia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:52 pm
Wayneactia wrote:Fauxia wrote:The SC is not really an IC assembly so it does not apply that it doesn’t make sense in a real world that UM would be commended by it. And UM roleplays as having consequences for violating WA law. He’s playing realistically and he’s done enough (probably) to warrant a commendation.
Au contraire. UM is being commended solely for in character actions, and thus the commendation should be judged solely on in character actions.
by WayNeacTia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:13 pm
RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac
wait
by Fauxia » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:43 am
by WayNeacTia » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:58 am
Fauxia wrote:If you have an argument to be made that he does not yet have enough on his resume to be recognized at all, I will entertain your arguments.
RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac
wait
by Kavagrad » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:06 am
by Fauxia » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:18 pm
Wayneactia wrote:Fauxia wrote:If you have an argument to be made that he does not yet have enough on his resume to be recognized at all, I will entertain your arguments.
The only thing he has done is author resoultions. If the commendation was at least inventive I could entertain it, but all I see is a boring list of resoultions passed. Lots of people have passed lots of resolutions. Auralia has passed far more resoultions that UM, and Auralia will never be commended. Same can be said for CD.
by Fauxia » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:26 pm
Kavagrad wrote:Any Commendation for a WA legislator that is willing to publicly violate WA law, and recruit others to do the same, isn't worthy of a glance. The WA shouldn't be in the business of cheering on sore losers. Opposed.
Glen-Rhodes wrote:I also just seems a poor reason to oppose a commendation. First, when Auralia and I argue for recognizing the existence of "non-compliance," we're not saying don't follow WA law. We're advocating for more realism in the GA. Second, and more importantly, it's a position adopted by GenSec and is now an official part of the GA rules case law. Whatever resolutions Auralia roleplays as being in noncompliance with, is really separate from this. Despite the SC rules, we're all talking about his accomplishments as a player. Can you not be a good player if you've roleplayed something disagreeable before?
by Attempted Socialism » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:29 pm
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by New Jakobly » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:26 pm
by Marilyn Manson Freaks » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:53 pm
The Rouge Christmas State wrote:Perhaps for the Lauding part of the resolution you can include his work with the RR and give some specific roles he has had in those regions, such as, "Lauding their leadership of Right to Life as president and WA Delegate, the East Pacific as part of the WA Ministry, and Deputy Culture Minister for the Rejected Realms and the continued impact they have on all of these regions; "
Also, the second "Noting" for the resolutions should probably be "Further Noting" or some other verb (i.e. "Observing", "Considering", etc.)
by Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:53 am
by New Jakobly » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:47 pm
by Twobagger » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:04 am
New Jakobly wrote:Acknowledging the controversies that may surround United Massachusetts for their unconventional political ideologies that embody both characteristics of the left and right;
New Jakobly wrote:Noting United Massachusetts’ ability to work with both sides of the political spectrum throughout NationStates; all while being a staunch adherent to the personal liberties that many of the left consider rights and holding on to religious liberties that the right can appreciate. This culmination of beliefs makes United Massachusetts a unifying force all can stand behind and appreciate;
New Jakobly wrote:Also Noting their authorship in both the General Assembly and Security council that embody these characteristics mentioned, with proposals such as:
New Jakobly wrote:GA Resolution #417, "Restrictions On Hydraulic Fracturing", Restricting the practice, which caused harm to water sources
GA Resolution #419 “Voting Equality for Freed Inmates”, giving past prisoners the voting equality they deserve
GA Resolution #430 “Freedom of Religion”, expressing the well-deserved freedom
GA Resolution #436 “Protecting Free Expression”, advancing the right to express
GA Resolution #437 “Ban on Conversion Therapy”, giving the LGBTQ+ community more rights
New Jakobly wrote:GA Resolution #467 "Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy", giving transgenders easier access to hormone therapy
New Jakobly wrote:Lauding their leadership of Right to Life as President and WA Delegate, reaching out to the political left, despite the rightist nature of the Right to Life, The East Pacific as part of the WA Ministry (serving as WA minister), and Deputy Culture Minister for The Rejected Realms and the continued impact they have on all of these regions;
Lord Dominator wrote: Defender of the Year: Twobagger
Defender Awards 2019 wrote:The Sir Lans Award
[...]
The winner of the Award this year is Twobagger of the Ten Thousand Islands Treaty Organisation (TITO), who has willingly assisted in so many operations regardless of the region leading them. Congratulations Twobagger!
Benevolent Thomas wrote:Twobagger: +15 For Tactical Genius
by Eumaeus » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:35 pm
New Jakobly wrote:Security Council;
Recognizing the esteemed members enshrined by this noble institution for their leadership, character, dedication, and much more;
Believing that an unacknowledged nation that embodies these exceptional characteristics is United Massachusetts;
Acknowledging the controversies that may surround United Massachusetts for their unconventional political ideologies that embody both characteristics of the left and right;
Noting United Massachusetts’ ability to work with both sides of the political spectrum throughout NationStates; all while being a staunch adherent to the personal liberties that many of the left consider rights and holding on to religious liberties that the right can appreciate. This culmination of beliefs makes United Massachusetts a unifying force all can stand behind and appreciate;
Also Noting their authorship in both the General Assembly and Security Council, with proposals that embody the previously mentioned characteristics, including:
GA Resolution #417, "Restrictions On Hydraulic Fracturing", restricting the practice of hydraulic fracturing, which causes harm to water sources
GA Resolution #419 “Voting Equality for Freed Inmates”, giving past prisoners the voting equality they deserve
GA Resolution #430 “Freedom of Religion”, expressing the well-deserved freedom
GA Resolution #436 “Protecting Free Expression”, advancing the right to express
GA Resolution #437 “Ban on Conversion Therapy”, giving the LGBTQ+ community more rights
Further Noting other resolutions United Massachusetts has co-authoredin, with proposals such as:
GA Resolution #467 "Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy", giving transgender people easier access to hormone therapy
SC Resolution #219 “Commend Forest”, recognizing their efforts to the environment
Lauding their leadership of Right to Life as President and WA Delegate, reaching out to the political left, despite the rightist nature of the Right to Life, The East Pacific as part of the WA Ministry (serving as WA minister), and Deputy Culture Minister for The Rejected Realms and the continued impact they have on all of these regions;
Considering the impact, leadership, character, and devotion that United Massachusetts has shown throughout their existence thus far;
Hereby Commends United Massachusetts.
Co-Authored by The Rouge Christmas State
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by New Jakobly » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:21 pm
by Aclion » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:39 am
by Lyrical International Brigade » Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:34 am
Aclion wrote:Marxist Germany wrote:Thats false, contradicting resolutions do not exist because there are rules against them.
This reasoning only applies if we first accept that the rules are enforced perfectly. They are not.
Resolutions that break the rules are, once passed, just as legitimate as any others. Violating them is still noncompliance. Therefore, so long as contradictory resolutions exist all WA nations are in noncompliance.
by Aclion » Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:45 am
35, 91, 114, & 141 in combination.Lyrical International Brigade wrote:Could those making this argument please 1) provide the rest of us with an example of mutually contradictory resolutions such that it is impossible to be in compliance with both simultaneously,
Lyrical International Brigade wrote:and 2) explain how that unfortunate and accidental state of affairs is morally equivalent to a nation or player deliberately deciding "We will explicitly and purposefully disobey Resolutions X, Y, Z, and Q." ???
by Marxist Germany » Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:52 am
by Aclion » Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:56 am
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