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Which Candidate do you like most after the debates?(Ranked in order of polling after said debates)

Joe Biden
40
14%
Bernie Sanders
92
32%
Elizabeth Warren
27
9%
Kamala Harris
10
3%
Pete Buttigieg
15
5%
Cory Booker
2
1%
Beto O'Rourke
3
1%
Andrew Yang
38
13%
Other
49
17%
Undecided
11
4%
 
Total votes : 287

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Postby Telconi » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:35 pm

Valrifell wrote:
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Pretty sure Scalia was still gone tho... So she would have had at least two, unless Kennedy tried to stick it out to prevent her from getting it.


The only reason why Kennedy retired is that he and Trump hashed out some kind of deal behind closed doors, which resulted in Kavanaugh (a former clerk for Kennedy) being appointed.


Maybe, maybe not.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:36 pm

Telconi wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
The only reason why Kennedy retired is that he and Trump hashed out some kind of deal behind closed doors, which resulted in Kavanaugh (a former clerk for Kennedy) being appointed.


Maybe, maybe not.


Either way, there is no timeline where Kennedy shows the same level of cooperation to Clinton.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:37 pm

Telconi wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
I feel like she wouldn’t need convincing that Data is a person


If she manages to limp on until 2365 folks would need convincing that she's a person.

You mean Cyborg Ginsberg can’t sit on the court?
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Postby Telconi » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:39 pm

Kowani wrote:
Telconi wrote:
If she manages to limp on until 2365 folks would need convincing that she's a person.

You mean Cyborg Ginsberg can’t sit on the court?


Not familiar with any relevant laws, but I personally wish she wouldn't.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:39 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Maybe, maybe not.


Either way, there is no timeline where Kennedy shows the same level of cooperation to Clinton.


Probably not, point is really moot though I guess, as even if Kennedy had managed through, -1 is still worse than +1
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:41 pm

Kowani wrote:
Telconi wrote:
If she manages to limp on until 2365 folks would need convincing that she's a person.

You mean Cyborg Ginsberg can’t sit on the court?


I remember 7 of 9 being hotter
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Postby Pacomia » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:43 pm

Kowani wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:WESTCOASTGANG!

Speaking of which, California is planning on annexing Oregon.

It is my Bill Gates-given duty to object several hours late.
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Postby Pacomia » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:45 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Speaking of which, California is planning on annexing Oregon.

...

*Goes Valkist*

*Blitzes Cali*

Can you go ahead and blitz Washington too? Thanks.

Oh, and while you’re at it, BC too.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:46 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
I remember 7 of 9 being hotter

I prefer Padme.


I saw what you did to those younglings Lotharia...
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:47 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
I remember 7 of 9 being hotter

I prefer Padme.


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Postby Pacomia » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:51 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:I prefer Padme.


tu'HomI'raH SoH ‘e’ Sov wo’

Kept trying to reply but Klingon has a very limited vocabulary
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:52 pm

Pacomia wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
tu'HomI'raH SoH ‘e’ Sov wo’

Kept trying to reply but Klingon has a very limited vocabulary

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Postby Pacomia » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:53 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Pacomia wrote:Kept trying to reply but Klingon has a very limited vocabulary

Just growl.

De' > wo'rIv
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:56 pm

Pacomia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Just growl.

De' > wo'rIv

Anyway ... There's talk now that Hickenlooper will drop out of the presidential primary race and land on Corey Gardner's head in the 2020 Colorado Senate race.
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Postby Blargoblarg » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:50 am

Revived Rhodesia wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
So she’s gonna be Chief Justice for Starfleet at this rate.


Hopefully she'll end up retiring soon enough.

I hope she stays alive and on the court until Bernie is sworn in.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:08 am

Blargoblarg wrote:
Revived Rhodesia wrote:
Hopefully she'll end up retiring soon enough.

I hope she stays alive and on the court until Bernie is sworn in.


She's already on the court, never being on the court is no longer an option.
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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:38 am

Blargoblarg wrote:
Revived Rhodesia wrote:
Hopefully she'll end up retiring soon enough.

I hope she stays alive and on the court until Bernie is sworn in.


And I hope Thomas Sowell will build a capitalist paradise on the moon.
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:16 am

Kowani wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Let's see here: Abortion? And theology? Let's try to at least tie it into this thread. Now, if I recall, Biden is Pro-Life himself but doesn't believe in intervening. Me, I've always been Pro-Choice, that'll never change and I consider my views on the issue more extreme on the issue then most hold. Needless to say, the Democrats would do better on women's health issues than Trump or most Republicans in my opinion though allowing abortion to be the deciding issue is pretty ridiculous in my mind.



It's the invasion Trump talks about, it's a Yuge deal, believe me! :p



Now I'm feeling the burn :p

Don't remind of the reality ahead for my party, which I consider a meme at this point... Eh, hopefully Amash runs. While I don't agree with everything he says, he would be the most tolerable. Otherwise, I'm writing in a name.

Don’t you mean Feeling the Bern? :p


Maybe? :p

Eternal Lotharia wrote:Why not Max Abramson?


Don't know him enough other than he's a State Rep from NH and switches back and forth as either a Republican or Libertarian.
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:25 am

But in other news, two big things:

First, Stacey Abrams unveils her 2020 plans, which don't include presidential bid; she'll be working on voting rights instead and she said she'll be open to be considered a VP nominee for any of the candidates. While I think a normal election could her as a good VP, I don't in this current political environment she would be the right choice. She should have run for the Senate instead with a focus on voting rights. Eh, I'm sure Democrats aren't happy about the fact she ain't running.

Second and more importantly, Hickenlooper is considering dropping out of the Presidential Race to run for the Senate instead.

He would likely be the nominee for the Democrats on the Senate and has a good chance of winning. This is bound to make Democrats happy.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:05 am

Valrifell wrote:
Arlenton wrote:6-3

7-2???

Pls


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Postby Gormwood » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:13 am

Ifreann wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Everytime someone wishes RBG would die, she gets a bonus year from pure spite and GOP salt.

“There was a senator, I think it was after my pancreatic cancer, who announced with great glee that I was going to be dead within six months. That senator, whose name I have forgotten, is now himself dead, and I am very much alive.”
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Postby United States of Devonta » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:43 am

Ifreann wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Everytime someone wishes RBG would die, she gets a bonus year from pure spite and GOP salt.

“There was a senator, I think it was after my pancreatic cancer, who announced with great glee that I was going to be dead within six months. That senator, whose name I have forgotten, is now himself dead, and I am very much alive.”
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Damn. This women just haunts the right lol
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Postby United States of Devonta » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:47 am

Zurkerx wrote:But in other news, two big things:

First, Stacey Abrams unveils her 2020 plans, which don't include presidential bid; she'll be working on voting rights instead and she said she'll be open to be considered a VP nominee for any of the candidates. While I think a normal election could her as a good VP, I don't in this current political environment she would be the right choice. She should have run for the Senate instead with a focus on voting rights. Eh, I'm sure Democrats aren't happy about the fact she ain't running.

Second and more importantly, Hickenlooper is considering dropping out of the Presidential Race to run for the Senate instead.

He would likely be the nominee for the Democrats on the Senate and has a good chance of winning. This is bound to make Democrats happy.


The Hickenlooper news is good. Gardner is very vulnerable in Colorado. Hickenlooper is a popular governor and could unseat him. Allot of Dems running right now and utterly shiting the bed in polls should drop out and run for senate. Beto and Bullock would be perfect examples.
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:55 am

United States of Devonta wrote:
Ifreann wrote:“There was a senator, I think it was after my pancreatic cancer, who announced with great glee that I was going to be dead within six months. That senator, whose name I have forgotten, is now himself dead, and I am very much alive.”
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Damn. This women just haunts the right lol

She's tapped into the kind of spite that kept Jesse Helms alive for years and feeds off Republican hate.
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:09 am

United States of Devonta wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:But in other news, two big things:

First, Stacey Abrams unveils her 2020 plans, which don't include presidential bid; she'll be working on voting rights instead and she said she'll be open to be considered a VP nominee for any of the candidates. While I think a normal election could her as a good VP, I don't in this current political environment she would be the right choice. She should have run for the Senate instead with a focus on voting rights. Eh, I'm sure Democrats aren't happy about the fact she ain't running.

Second and more importantly, Hickenlooper is considering dropping out of the Presidential Race to run for the Senate instead.

He would likely be the nominee for the Democrats on the Senate and has a good chance of winning. This is bound to make Democrats happy.


The Hickenlooper news is good. Gardner is very vulnerable in Colorado. Hickenlooper is a popular governor and could unseat him. Allot of Dems running right now and utterly shiting the bed in polls should drop out and run for senate. Beto and Bullock would be perfect examples.


Or maybe Castro for Texas. However, I don't see Democrats taking Texas regardless though they can shorten those margins, which would be a win for them and cause the GOP to scream bloody murder. Bullock? Yeah, he most certainly can win a Senate seat but ego man, ego! I'm sure he'll realize this soon enough.

United States of Devonta wrote:
Ifreann wrote:“There was a senator, I think it was after my pancreatic cancer, who announced with great glee that I was going to be dead within six months. That senator, whose name I have forgotten, is now himself dead, and I am very much alive.”
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Damn. This women just haunts the right lol


Guy on the right here: I not praying for her to die.
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