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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:55 pm

Kowani wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Am I wrong in stating it?

What?


In stating that it’s wrong to judge them all based on jihadist actions.
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Postby Otira » Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:56 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:I actually have evidence to back my theory that poverty and incel cause violence. The Black September was a militant group within PLO that even PLO itself could no longer control. Eventually the BS militantism problem was solved by PLO playing the matchmaker and introducing BS folks to ladies.

The most important causes of violence:
1. Masculinity
2. Inceldom
3. Poverty

Not ideology lol.


Then why are there women joining terrorist groups? Lots of women chose to join ISIS.

According to one expert, it's a combination of fantasy and a feeling of being empowered.

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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:56 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
In fact, why are we even talking about Jihadists when it was a White Nationalist terrorist that just tried to mass murder people here?


Some have been saying Islam is evil because jihadists throughout the thread. I’m responding to that. I’m not going to judge Islam or Muslims based on jihadist actions. Just like I don’t judge every Christian based on what the Westboro Baptist Church does.


>Story about how a Muslim man, despite being elderly, put himself in danger and saved many others lives.

>NSG posters: IsLaM iS eVIl!!!!111!
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:56 pm

Otira wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Then why are there women joining terrorist groups? Lots of women chose to join ISIS.

According to one expert, it's a combination of fantasy and a feeling of being empowered.


By terrorism.
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Postby Mary Jusra » Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:56 pm

Neko-koku wrote:I actually have evidence to back my theory that poverty and incel cause violence. The Black September was a militant group within PLO that even PLO itself could no longer control. Eventually the BS militantism problem was solved by PLO playing the matchmaker and introducing BS folks to ladies.

The most important causes of violence:
1. Masculinity
2. Inceldom
3. Poverty

Not ideology lol.

TIL women never commit violence.

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Postby Kowani » Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:56 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Kowani wrote:What?


In stating that it’s wrong to judge them all based on jihadist actions.

Ah, no. You’re right.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:57 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Some have been saying Islam is evil because jihadists throughout the thread. I’m responding to that. I’m not going to judge Islam or Muslims based on jihadist actions. Just like I don’t judge every Christian based on what the Westboro Baptist Church does.


>Story about how a Muslim man, despite being elderly, put himself in danger and saved many others lives.

>NSG posters: IsLaM iS eVIl!!!!111!


Drinking game.
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Postby Otira » Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:57 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Otira wrote:According to one expert, it's a combination of fantasy and a feeling of being empowered.


By terrorism.


They didn't say high intelligence was a cause.

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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:58 pm

Epic grandpa moment :clap:
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Postby Otira » Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:00 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Some have been saying Islam is evil because jihadists throughout the thread. I’m responding to that. I’m not going to judge Islam or Muslims based on jihadist actions. Just like I don’t judge every Christian based on what the Westboro Baptist Church does.


>Story about how a Muslim man, despite being elderly, put himself in danger and saved many others lives.

>NSG posters: IsLaM iS eVIl!!!!111!


I'm guessing some people may not see the ideas as being mutually exclusive. There were Nazis who saved people and put themselves in danger to do so. There's a statue to one in Goirle (the Netherlands).

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Postby Scomagia » Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:00 pm

Otira wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Then why are there women joining terrorist groups? Lots of women chose to join ISIS.

According to one expert, it's a combination of fantasy and a feeling of being empowered.

Can i get a link to this expert?
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Postby Otira » Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:01 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Otira wrote:According to one expert, it's a combination of fantasy and a feeling of being empowered.

Can i get a link to this expert?

https://abcnews.go.com/International/young-women-join-isis/story?id=29112401

Do you disagree with them?

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Postby United States of Devonta » Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:08 pm

Good on grandpa! Glad we didn't have another Christchurch. Oh and fuck the Nazi who tried.

Has anyone tried to say the mosque deserved it or out of nowhere bring up jihadist?
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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:09 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:Good on grandpa! Glad we didn't have another Christchurch. Oh and fuck the Nazi who tried.

Has anyone tried to say the mosque deserved it or out of nowhere bring up jihadist?

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:09 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:Good on grandpa! Glad we didn't have another Christchurch. Oh and fuck the Nazi who tried.

Has anyone tried to say the mosque deserved it or out of nowhere bring up jihadist?


Read back a page or two and you’ll get your answer on jihadists.
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Postby Rostavykhan » Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:10 pm

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Postby Orbitar » Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:14 pm

Springfeal wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Heroism of those who stand up to the alt right especially in cases like this. This thread is literally meant to spread awareness that no one will intimidated by the alt right.


But, Islamism is a far greater threat than the alt-right... I mean, the number of non-Muslims and LGBT people killed by Islamists by far outweighs what a couple of alt-right people have done.


Not all Muslims are terrorists, you cultural racist.

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Postby United States of Devonta » Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:14 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:Good on grandpa! Glad we didn't have another Christchurch. Oh and fuck the Nazi who tried.

Has anyone tried to say the mosque deserved it or out of nowhere bring up jihadist?


Read back a page or two and you’ll get your answer on jihadists.


Ooop. Well that's to be expected. In NSG and mainstream discourse.

Bring up Jihad, just because the victims were Muslim. As if they deserved it or had anything to do with radical Islamic extremism.

Oh and we've probably avoided two more terrorist attacks by Nazis, In just this past week.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fb ... s-n1041031
https://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-white ... d=64906798
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:16 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Read back a page or two and you’ll get your answer on jihadists.


Ooop. Well that's to be expected. In NSG and mainstream discourse.

Bring up Jihad, just because the victims were Muslim. As if they deserved it or had anything to do with radical Islamic extremism.

Oh and we've probably avoided two more terrorist attacks by Nazis, In just this past week.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fb ... s-n1041031
https://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-white ... d=64906798


This gentleman is, IMO, deserving of praise. And the criticism should be thrown at far right extremists.
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Postby Otira » Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:17 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
Ooop. Well that's to be expected. In NSG and mainstream discourse.

Bring up Jihad, just because the victims were Muslim. As if they deserved it or had anything to do with radical Islamic extremism.

Oh and we've probably avoided two more terrorist attacks by Nazis, In just this past week.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fb ... s-n1041031
https://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-white ... d=64906798


This gentleman is, IMO, deserving of praise. And the criticism should be thrown at far right extremists.


On that topic, why is Islamism always separated from far right extremism? Isn't Jihadism far right?

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Postby Tombradyonia » Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:18 pm

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Otira wrote:It has to be more complicated than that. For example, in the United States large segments of their black population are extremely lower class and half higher rates of murder and violence, but they don't commit organized political massacres like Islamists and WN. What's the difference? Or are their murderers not incels like the Islamists and WNs and it all comes down to sex for them?

"This just in; sex creates terrorists!"


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Postby Gormwood » Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:19 pm

Tombradyonia wrote:
Destriustan wrote:"This just in; sex creates terrorists!"


Fox News and the entire right wing echo chamber: ban sex! Buy more guns!

That would still make some people feel conflicted.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:19 pm

Otira wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
This gentleman is, IMO, deserving of praise. And the criticism should be thrown at far right extremists.


On that topic, why is Islamism always separated from far right extremism? Isn't Jihadism far right?


Tbf, it technically is. Some right-wing people might blow their tops if you say that though.

But the motivations and end goals are usually different.
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Postby Arcanda » Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:22 pm

Jolthig wrote:Eid mubarak (Happy Eid [Celebration]) NSG, and it's definitely a blessed Eid indeed! I give kudos to this man from stopping another massacre! Alhamdulilah (All praise belongs to Allah), lives have been saved. This is definitely inspiring because it shows that no one will be intimated by the alt-right no matter what they do. Preserving life is the best thing in Islam and this is exactly what this brother did when tackling a hostile enemy. May Allah bless him for his courage. Amen.

Thank you for this nice bit of Islamic propaganda, now to quote one of the early posters of this thread: What are we supposed to discuss?

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:24 pm

Otira wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
This gentleman is, IMO, deserving of praise. And the criticism should be thrown at far right extremists.


On that topic, why is Islamism always separated from far right extremism? Isn't Jihadism far right?


Could be a distinction made for religious reasons. I don’t know. The far right doesn’t seem to consider it far right.
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