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Postby Condottieri International » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:08 pm

So if the Illuminati were real how would they keep their grip on power in democratic societies while trying to transform the world in the new world order aka a single global state? What would be the methods used if you wanted to make a change or maintain the globalization status quo?
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Postby Technoscience Leftwing » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:44 pm

Condottieri International wrote:So if the Illuminati were real how would they keep their grip on power in democratic societies while trying to transform the world in the new world order aka a single global state? What would be the methods used if you wanted to make a change or maintain the globalization status quo?


* In the 18th century, the Illuminati set themselves the task of creating overcoming national narrow-mindedness, destroying church prejudices, and promoting the unification of all peoples on the basis of the ideas of secular education. Unfortunately, they were very small and not influential.
* In the 19th century, the task of uniting all peoples on the basis of atheist socialism and the world revolution was set by the communist movement, which relied on the poor and workers of the whole world. The level of technology development in the 19th and 20th century turned out to be insufficient for such a task. At the same time, the fascist movements showed the idea of ​​cosmopolitan unity as a scarecrow, they opposing international solidarity. There is nothing to be afraid of, there is much more harm and tyranny from national governments than from the international brotherhood of all earthlings.
* In the 21st century, the Internet and modern intercontinental transport appeared, there are massive migrations, a mixture of races and national cultures, English has become global. However, under the rule of capitalist monopolies, the world cannot become one, because capitalism is based on competition. There was a discussion about this: Kautsky argued that "ultra-imperialism", the unification of the planet under capitalism, is possible. Lenin objected that the competition of monopolies would not allow such an association to be created that the disappearance of nations is possible only under the authority of a revolutionary government. Let's hope that such a union will happen.
* Probably, it will happen this way: the contradictions between the major powers will escalate, the next world war will begin for markets, for the redivision of the world between monopolies and countries. As a result, the masses will suffer from war and become disillusioned with nationalism. Enclaves with cosmopolitan progressive ideology will appear in different parts of the world. They will unite in a global network of territories, and it will supplant the old national states, and create a single state for the entire planet. The State of all earthlings.
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Postby Mombombu » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:46 pm

The real Illuminati are the ultra-rich.

There's no real need for the cryptic cult stuff to stay in power when they can just buy their control.

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Postby Maydona » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:50 pm

Condottieri International wrote:So if the Illuminati were real how would they keep their grip on power in democratic societies while trying to transform the world in the new world order aka a single global state? What would be the methods used if you wanted to make a change or maintain the globalization status quo?

By putting estrogen in the water and making all the frogs gay.
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An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Facebook adverts.

Nobody under 30 uses Facebook.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:31 am

Kowani wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Facebook adverts.

Nobody under 30 uses Facebook.


Exactly. You only reach the people with power.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:33 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Kowani wrote:Nobody under 30 uses Facebook.


Exactly. You only reach the people with power.

…You’re not wrong.
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Postby Condottieri International » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:11 pm

But how would they influence science and information technology trends?

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Postby United Timelines Outpost Number 99999999 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:16 pm

Condottieri International wrote:But how would they influence science and information technology trends?

It all comes down to who controls the birds. There's a reason the Reagan administration had them systematically exterminated and replaced with drones. Now bird-watching goes both ways, whether we like it or not.
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Kowani wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Facebook adverts.

Nobody under 30 uses Facebook.

That's where you're wrong, bucko.
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Postby Pacomia » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:22 pm

United Timelines Outpost Number 99999999 wrote:
Condottieri International wrote:But how would they influence science and information technology trends?

It all comes down to who controls the birds. There's a reason the Reagan administration had them systematically exterminated and replaced with drones. Now bird-watching goes both ways, whether we like it or not.

Hey, I saw a real bird last week.
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Postby Jean-Paul Sartre » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:23 pm

Pacomia wrote:
United Timelines Outpost Number 99999999 wrote:It all comes down to who controls the birds. There's a reason the Reagan administration had them systematically exterminated and replaced with drones. Now bird-watching goes both ways, whether we like it or not.

Hey, I saw a real bird last week.

Birds are dinosaurs, and dinosaurs are extinct. Therefore, birds are extinct. You are wrong.
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Postby The Realist Polities » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:44 pm

Condottieri International wrote:So if the Illuminati were real how would they keep their grip on power in democratic societies while trying to transform the world in the new world order aka a single global state? What would be the methods used if you wanted to make a change or maintain the globalization status quo?


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Postby DARGLED » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:51 pm

How do illuminates live?

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Postby Kowani » Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:29 am

Old Varegia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Nobody under 30 uses Facebook.

That's where you're wrong, bucko.

“How do you do, fellow kids?” :p
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:49 am

Keep humanity in a constant state of war and fear from internal and external threats. A frightened populace is a docile populace. All while subtly introducing whatever new message that you want everyone to learn via popular culture.
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Postby Chan Island » Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:32 am

Obviously by building gigantic triangles and pyramids everywhere so that the conspiracy theorists will spend hours on Google maps looking for satellite photos of them.

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Postby Condottieri International » Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:59 am

DARGLED wrote:How do illuminates live?


This a good question. How do those in the Illuminati live from the low base of the organization to the top?

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Postby Great Algerstonia » Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:43 am

Nice try, FBI.
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Postby Highever » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:16 pm

Condottieri International wrote:
DARGLED wrote:How do illuminates live?


This a good question. How do those in the Illuminati live from the low base of the organization to the top?

I mean the illuminati havent existed for centuries. It was created by some guy who was to poor to afford the entrance fee to some other organization.
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Postby Lanoraie II » Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:40 pm

Condottieri International wrote:So if the Illuminati were real how would they keep their grip on power in democratic societies while trying to transform the world in the new world order aka a single global state? What would be the methods used if you wanted to make a change or maintain the globalization status quo?


By controlling all the media, committing false flags, pitting political parties against each other, putting hormones in food--wait....
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Postby Condottieri International » Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:38 am

Great Algerstonia wrote:Nice try, FBI.


I like your sense of humor

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Postby Condottieri International » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:37 am

So where's the proof of there being an all powerful globalist organization?

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Postby Takso » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:44 am

I, for one, endorse the New World Order, as envisioned similarly by H.G. Wells. It would be wondrous for mankind to be united under a single world government. Only then will every man, woman, and child be granted the Rights of Man.

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