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The Evergreen Dreamscapes
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Postby The Evergreen Dreamscapes » Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:32 pm

issue 678,
Today you’ve had a full schedule: meeting lobbyists who want you to name lunch the most important meal of the day, handshaking and congratulating The Evergreen Dreamscapes’s gold-medal-winning sylph hummingbirdball team, and fielding surprisingly piercing questions from a classroom of carefully selected ten-year-olds. It’s been hard for you to attend to the business of state, much less find any time for yourself. It occurs to you that having a deputy leader to help handle the workload might not be such a bad idea.
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Candlewhisper Archive
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:51 am

Fauxia wrote:390.2 talks about spreading democracy and is available for autocratic nations. Why would an autocratic nation want to spread democracy though?


Good point. I'll flag this for Sanctaria's comment, and see what he thinks.
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Candlewhisper Archive
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:18 am

Sanctaria is going to take a look and sort it, cheers.
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TalAkMaChen
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Postby TalAkMaChen » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:50 am

In 378, option 1.. the @@REGION@@ should be capitalized, no? e.g. "Great The Pacific War" instead of "Great the Pacific War" which looks a bit odd.
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Trotterdam
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Postby Trotterdam » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:28 am

Realistically, it would just be Great Pacific War, but the game doesn't have the technology for that.

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Sanctaria
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Postby Sanctaria » Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:48 am

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:
Fauxia wrote:390.2 talks about spreading democracy and is available for autocratic nations. Why would an autocratic nation want to spread democracy though?


Good point. I'll flag this for Sanctaria's comment, and see what he thinks.

Added a slight doppleganger for autocratic nations.
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The Great Boom
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Postby The Great Boom » Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:23 am

The issue "tell me sweet little lies" gives your police the option to beat confessions out of suspects. That's a violation of Prevention of Torture from the GA.
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Candlewhisper Archive
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:26 am

The Great Boom wrote:The issue "pretty little lies" gives your police the option to beat confessions out of suspects. That's a violation of Prevention of Torture from the GA.


The Assembly and Issues subgames affect the same stat arrays, but don't overlap mechanically.

Theres a vast number of decisions you can make that go against World Asembly Resolutions, but there's never been any mechanism to force you to adhere to WA resolutions.
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Sanctaria
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Postby Sanctaria » Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:27 am

The Great Boom wrote:The issue "tell me sweet little lies" gives your police the option to beat confessions out of suspects. That's a violation of Prevention of Torture from the GA.

Not every nation is in the WA, firstly. Of the 6 million nations served, only what 25000 is in the WA?

And secondly, the issues side of the game and the WA side of the game don't talk to each other, technically speaking. WA resolutions don't put any kind of flags on your nation that would prevent it from receiving issues otherwise not valid for that nation.
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Perelingo
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Postby Perelingo » Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:14 am

In #413, "A shot in the arm", option 1, the parent mentions "Big Pharma" and "pharmaceutical companies", while I have the Socialist policy enacted. Now they're quite weird and conspiracy-friendly, but that's still a strange thing for them to say.

By the way...
Candlewhisper Archive wrote:The Assembly and Issues subgames affect the same stat arrays, but don't overlap mechanically.

I didn't even know WA suff did have an effect on the stats, how do this work exactly ?
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Postby Trotterdam » Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:24 am

Perelingo wrote:I didn't even know WA suff did have an effect on the stats, how do this work exactly ?
A WA resolution will cause a small effect on your stats depending on the category and strength of the resolution passed (for example, a Moral Decency resolution will decrease Civil Rights). A repeal resolution will affect your stats in the opposite direction from the original resolution (which can have weird implications if you only joined the WA after the original resolution had passed and thus only ever saw the repeal, since merely joining/leaving the WA does not affect your stats). The actual text of the resolution is completely ignored, only the category and strength matter for the purposes of stats (though of course, you should pick a category and strength that make sense for what your resolution proposal says it's doing, or it'll be thrown out as illegal).

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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:33 am

Trotterdam wrote:A repeal resolution will affect your stats in the opposite direction from the original resolution
But at only half the strength, unless that detail has been changed recently.
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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:33 am

Perelingo wrote:In #413, "A shot in the arm", option 1, the parent mentions "Big Pharma" and "pharmaceutical companies", while I have the Socialist policy enacted. Now they're quite weird and conspiracy-friendly, but that's still a strange thing for them to say.

Companies are a thing even in Socialism. They are state owned of course, but they are still companies nonetheless. Notable ones off the top of my head include Carl Zeiss Jena, Pentacon, RFT, etc.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:24 pm

999.1- Is this a typo?

Half of my paycheck went to the charity BrasilistanWe last month, but according to the leaked documents,

Or is supposed to say "BrasilistanWe"?

Did you mean "BrasilistanWest?"

It's written again in option 3
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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:39 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:999.1- Is this a typo?

Half of my paycheck went to the charity BrasilistanWe last month, but according to the leaked documents,

Or is supposed to say "BrasilistanWe"?

Did you mean "BrasilistanWest?"

It's written again in option 3

Isn't it parodying the name of a real life charity?
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Candlewhisper Archive
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:27 am

Perelingo wrote:In #413, "A shot in the arm", option 1, the parent mentions "Big Pharma" and "pharmaceutical companies", while I have the Socialist policy enacted. Now they're quite weird and conspiracy-friendly, but that's still a strange thing for them to say.


Not really, the speaker is just complaining about those global corporations, rather than corporations operating within the nation. Or they're talking about the shadowy figures in state pharmaceutical manufacture.
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:32 am

Trotterdam wrote:
Perelingo wrote:I didn't even know WA suff did have an effect on the stats, how do this work exactly ?
A WA resolution will cause a small effect on your stats depending on the category and strength of the resolution passed (for example, a Moral Decency resolution will decrease Civil Rights). A repeal resolution will affect your stats in the opposite direction from the original resolution (which can have weird implications if you only joined the WA after the original resolution had passed and thus only ever saw the repeal, since merely joining/leaving the WA does not affect your stats). The actual text of the resolution is completely ignored, only the category and strength matter for the purposes of stats (though of course, you should pick a category and strength that make sense for what your resolution proposal says it's doing, or it'll be thrown out as illegal).


Right, I've always thought that was weird. However, I suspect that if joining the WA immediately made your nation compliant with all its legislation (with the massive stat shifts that entails) that would put a lot of people off joining.

A couple of years back we had this big negotiation about WA resolution stats, as we were getting WA resolutions of minimal import causing stat changes many many times bigger than much more radical decisions being taken through issues. You could institute slavery in an issue, then be subject to a very mild protection of privacy in the WA, and have a net swing massively towards civil rights.

There was even the idea that resolutions could be tailor-statted, so that they'd actually have effects specific to their decisions, but that was ruled out for combined reasons of practicality and jurisdiction.

We agreed a sizeable revision of the stats changes applied, and agreed a compromise where the a decision in WA is still more significant than the same decision in issues (on the basis that these are one-off occurrences and are more momentous in some way, plus are being enforced by any outside agency) but made them more measured in their magnitude. We also looked at the reversal numbers, and agreed there was a complexity here in what happened to a nation that joined between implementation and reversal. In the end, it was agreed it was always going to be a bit of a fudge.

For now, consider GA and Issues to be two separate subgames that interact in overlapping ways, but which should be treated as having their own separate rules-sets and traditions.
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Postby Trotterdam » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:32 pm

The macro in the title of #502 should capitalize every word.

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Pogaria
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Postby Pogaria » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:30 pm

Trotterdam wrote:The macro in the title of #502 should capitalize every word.

I fixed it.
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Postby Fauxia » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:09 am

1151 spells Tranquility of Yellow with two l’s, which I believe is a non-US spelling. I know that typically issues use the spelling of the author, but since it’s an organization, should it be consistent?
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Sanctaria
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Postby Sanctaria » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:51 am

Fauxia wrote:1151 spells Tranquility of Yellow with two l’s, which I believe is a non-US spelling. I know that typically issues use the spelling of the author, but since it’s an organization, should it be consistent?

Americans don't spell Yellow with two l's?
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Dr. Bethany Greer CMD, Sanctarian Ambassador to the World Assembly
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Postby Candensia » Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:17 pm

Sanctaria wrote:
Fauxia wrote:1151 spells Tranquility of Yellow with two l’s, which I believe is a non-US spelling. I know that typically issues use the spelling of the author, but since it’s an organization, should it be consistent?

Americans don't spell Yellow with two l's?




I, American, spell yellow with two l’s.

Perhaps it’s a regional thing.
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Postby Trotterdam » Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:21 pm

I'm pretty sure Fauxia was talking about the spelling of "Tranquil(l)ity". "Yellow" is spelled with two "l"s on both sides of the pond.

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Sanctaria
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Postby Sanctaria » Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:22 pm

Trotterdam wrote:I'm pretty sure Fauxia was talking about the spelling of "Tranquil(l)ity". "Yellow" is spelled with two "l"s on both sides of the pond.

I know he was. Buzzkill.

I fixed this like an hour ago btw.
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Frisbeeteria wrote:Do people not realize that moderators can tell when someone is wanking?

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Postby Candensia » Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:35 pm

Sanctaria wrote:
Trotterdam wrote:I'm pretty sure Fauxia was talking about the spelling of "Tranquil(l)ity". "Yellow" is spelled with two "l"s on both sides of the pond.

I know he was. Buzzkill.

I fixed this like an hour ago btw.
Trotterdam wrote:I'm pretty sure Fauxia was talking about the spelling of "Tranquil(l)ity". "Yellow" is spelled with two "l"s on both sides of the pond.


I t-totally knew that too! Indubitably....
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