by Rojava Free State » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:40 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Victorious Decepticons » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:23 pm
Newaswa wrote:What is the greatest threat to your nation?Vallermoore wrote:The Victorious Decepticons.Bluquse wrote:Imperialist, aggressive, and genociding aliens or interdimensional beings that would most likely slaughter or enslave us
rather than meet up to have a talk. :(TurtleShroom wrote:Also, like any sane, civilized nation, we always consider the Victorious Decepticons a clear, present, and obvious threat we must respect, honor, and leave alone in all circumstances. Always fear the Victorious Decepticons.
The Huskar Social Union wrote: ... massive empires of genocidal machines.
by New haven america » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:26 pm
Scomagia wrote:What laws enabled this abuse of a citizen? Change those laws.
by The New California Republic » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:27 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-u-s-citizen-has-been-in-immigration-custody-for-nearly-a-month-due-to-a-paperwork-mix-up-attorney-says/ar-AAEJRNJ?ocid=AMZN
an 18 year old Texas man was detained by ICE on his way to a school event. He was pulled over in his car by agents and even though he offered his ID and registration of his car, he was still detained because agents believed his ID was fake. He spent a month in detainment before finally being let go
by New haven america » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:30 pm
by Cedoria » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:30 pm
by Novus America » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:31 pm
Geneviev wrote:Considering all of these incidents, ICE should be abolished to protect US citizens.
by New haven america » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:33 pm
by Scomagia » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:33 pm
Cedoria wrote:Time to abolish ICE and DHS to protect the rights of US citizens. Either create new agencies with better practice or subsume their functions into others. Both these agencies are far too big for their britches. Conservatives are supposed to be constitutionalises. Let's see them put their money where their mouths are.
by Fartsniffage » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:34 pm
Novus America wrote:Geneviev wrote:Considering all of these incidents, ICE should be abolished to protect US citizens.
Umm ICE is much more than the ERO. Immigration enforcement is only one part of what ICE does.
Obviously the ERO component must be significantly reformed, maybe those responsibilities transferred to another agency but “abolish ICE” is based on ignorance of how ICE is structured and what it does.
by Novus America » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:35 pm
Cedoria wrote:Time to abolish ICE and DHS to protect the rights of US citizens. Either create new agencies with better practice or subsume their functions into others. Both these agencies are far too big for their britches. Conservatives are supposed to be constitutionalises. Let's see them put their money where their mouths are.
by The South Falls » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:38 pm
by NERVUN » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:38 pm
by Novus America » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:38 pm
Fartsniffage wrote:Novus America wrote:
Umm ICE is much more than the ERO. Immigration enforcement is only one part of what ICE does.
Obviously the ERO component must be significantly reformed, maybe those responsibilities transferred to another agency but “abolish ICE” is based on ignorance of how ICE is structured and what it does.
What else does ICE do?
by Duhon » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:52 pm
by Rojava Free State » Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:01 pm
NERVUN wrote:This seems very relevant to this thread: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... ion-227357 The problem is that you have an agency that was created after 9-11 from what was and was changed with more anti-terrorism than what it should be doing.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Duhon » Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:05 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:NERVUN wrote:This seems very relevant to this thread: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... ion-227357 The problem is that you have an agency that was created after 9-11 from what was and was changed with more anti-terrorism than what it should be doing.
People are so scared of terrorism, they're willing to give their own freedoms up for fake security. The government says they'll protect you from terrorists but what do you do when you need to be protected from your own government?
by Rojava Free State » Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:09 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Cedoria » Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:17 pm
Scomagia wrote:Cedoria wrote:Time to abolish ICE and DHS to protect the rights of US citizens. Either create new agencies with better practice or subsume their functions into others. Both these agencies are far too big for their britches. Conservatives are supposed to be constitutionalises. Let's see them put their money where their mouths are.
And straight into the generalized partisan hostility. Lovely.
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