Biphobia in the LGBT community

[Kannap]

This is about bisexuals, not trans.

This illustrates a problem, though. Bisexuals often get shoved out of the conversation and ignored in favor of other parts of LGBT (god, I hate that stupid acronym).

Op did mention transexuals and went on to talk about bi people... But I do agree with your point that the acronym is rather idiotic as it should end after LGB... Everything beyond it is the fetishization of mental illness

Casual reminder that drag queens, some - possibly many - of whom were secretly trans and didn't come out openly until later were the champions and the backbone of the early LGBT movement in the United States. They've been here since the beginning and they've been there for us all along the way, it's our turn to be there for them and champion for their rights.

[Eastern Denmark]

This is about bisexuals, not trans.

This illustrates a problem, though. Bisexuals often get shoved out of the conversation and ignored in favor of other parts of LGBT (god, I hate that stupid acronym).

Op did mention transexuals and went on to talk about bi people... But I do agree with your point that the acronym is rather idiotic as it should end after LGB... Everything beyond it is the fetishization of mental illness

how exactly is it fetishization to say one isnt sure what they are beyond "not straight" aka queer, or feeling no sexual attraction(asexual)?

[Scomagia]

This is about bisexuals, not trans.

This illustrates a problem, though. Bisexuals often get shoved out of the conversation and ignored in favor of other parts of LGBT (god, I hate that stupid acronym).

Why do you hate the acronym?

It's stupid and trivial and implies that I have some special solidarity as a bisexual with lesbians, gays, and trans over heterosexuals. That's just not true.

[Kannap]

Why do you hate the acronym?

It's stupid and trivial and implies that I have some special solidarity as a bisexual with lesbians, gays, and trans over heterosexuals. That's just not true.

So are you advocating we drop the B and go straight for LGT?

[Scomagia]

This is about bisexuals, not trans.

This illustrates a problem, though. Bisexuals often get shoved out of the conversation and ignored in favor of other parts of LGBT (god, I hate that stupid acronym).

Bad acronym.

Not the people in it, but the acronym itself I dislike.

Stupid enlgish language.


no I'm not going to correct that typo.

Yeah, it doesn't help when people just keep loading it with letters and symbols until it looks like a spoonful of alphabet soup.

[Eastern Denmark]

Why do you hate the acronym?

It's stupid and trivial and implies that I have some special solidarity as a bisexual with lesbians, gays, and trans over heterosexuals. That's just not true.

For a majority of the community it is true. Almost all, because it is an overarching term and a community. If you want to pick and choose who you support in the community, you arent really being a true member of the community and support network

[Kannap]

It's stupid and trivial and implies that I have some special solidarity as a bisexual with lesbians, gays, and trans over heterosexuals. That's just not true.

...Unlike you I just dislike how it sounds.

Not a big fan of acronyms anyway.

I'd prefer a short name as an umbrella term.
Like

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Ok I got nothing.

Point still stands.

I have nothing against the LGBT acronym, I understand I belong in the group.

Though, I don't identify as LGBT - I identify as gay.

[Scomagia]

It's stupid and trivial and implies that I have some special solidarity as a bisexual with lesbians, gays, and trans over heterosexuals. That's just not true.

So are you advocating we drop the B and go straight for LGT?

I'd prefer people didn't go out of their way to make themselves special communities that really only have something innate as their common thread. I'd feel the same way about doing the same with race or height or eye color.

You can do as you please. I'm sure lots of bi people like the acronym and the division. I don't.

[Eastern Denmark]

This is about bisexuals, not trans.

This illustrates a problem, though. Bisexuals often get shoved out of the conversation and ignored in favor of other parts of LGBT (god, I hate that stupid acronym).

Bad acronym.

Not the people in it, but the acronym itself I dislike.

Stupid enlgish language.


no I'm not going to correct that typo.

there might be a new one: "LITGANG+"
(Lesbian Intersex Trans Gay Asexual Non-identifying Genderfluid) but i think id prefer not to say "im a member of LITGANG" lol

[Scomagia]

It's stupid and trivial and implies that I have some special solidarity as a bisexual with lesbians, gays, and trans over heterosexuals. That's just not true.

For a majority of the community it is true. Almost all, because it is an overarching term and a community. If you want to pick and choose who you support in the community, you arent really being a true member of the community and support network

I'm not a part of any stupid community based only on innate qualities. I'm in the human community. End of

[Agarntrop]

What if you think some men have attractive faces but could never date or be sexually attracted to them(beyond the face of course)?

Have sex with the face then.

Reminds me of the "iS iT sTiLl gAy iF tHeY lOoK LiKe GaLs" post

[Kannap]

So are you advocating we drop the B and go straight for LGT?

I'd prefer people didn't go out of their way to make themselves special communities that really only have something innate as their common thread. I'd feel the same way about doing the same with race or height or eye color.

You can do as you please. I'm sure lots of bi people like the acronym and the division. I don't.

Eh, its been going on for probably as long as humanity has existed, separating themselves into different cliques and communities.

Particularly, especially when it comes to minorities that had been oppressed and discriminated against on a society-wide basis for long times, I don't see the issue with having spaces and communities just for people of a certain group that exclude people that don't belong to that group.

[Eastern Denmark]

For a majority of the community it is true. Almost all, because it is an overarching term and a community. If you want to pick and choose who you support in the community, you arent really being a true member of the community and support network

I'm not a part of any stupid community based only on innate qualities. I'm in the human community. End of

innate qualities and the common goal to expand LGBTQA+ rights? to provide support for eachother because we can count on not finding secret homophobes, or transphobes, or whatever who seek to hurt or put us in conversion camps or whatever. a group that builds networks to advocate for political change for the enbetterment of human rights and safety. and a term to use for individuals who dont yet feel safe declaring their exact sexuality/gender orientation or dont even know yet...

[Purgatio]

I definitely don't think its the majority of the LGBT community that's biphobic, obviously there are those who are but most I've met or dealt with don't see bisexuals as different from any other normal person

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I hate to generalize, but in my experience 99% of biphobia comes from gay men and hetero women and is most often directed at bisexual men than women. Being bi myself I get really annoyed about it, how stupid people are with not understanding bisexuality.

[The South Falls]

I wouldn't think that the majority of LGBT people are biphobic. There are very, very few, just like TERF or SWERF folks

[Scomagia]

I'd prefer people didn't go out of their way to make themselves special communities that really only have something innate as their common thread. I'd feel the same way about doing the same with race or height or eye color.

You can do as you please. I'm sure lots of bi people like the acronym and the division. I don't.

Eh, its been going on for probably as long as humanity has existed, separating themselves into different cliques and communities.

Particularly, especially when it comes to minorities that had been oppressed and discriminated against on a society-wide basis for long times, I don't see the issue with having spaces and communities just for people of a certain group that exclude people that don't belong to that group.

Do it if it pleases you. I find it trite and counterproductive. If you like to identify as part of "such and such community", then you do you.

From my perspective, not being heterosexual is not a reasonable grounds for considering something a "community". Or, at least, it's not one I care to be associated with. Just like I don't consider myself as being in the "white" community, whatever the fuck that'd be, or in the "sexy" community. I may be those things but that's insufficient for me to be bonded with others in a "community".

[Eastern Denmark]

So what do you think about this bigotry that exists in the LGBT community and what can be done to solve it? Here is my answer. I think that LGBT organizations should distribute more information on bisexuality (at least as much as they do on homosexuality), and bisexuals should do more to become a more prominent force in the LGBT rights movement. If those two things are done then biphobia rates will quickly go down in both the LGBT community and the straight community.

also I don't want to piggy back on the topic and distract from the fair point, but there is also a lot (if not more) hate and exclusion directed towards Transgender, Pansexuality, asexuality, and the other more minor sexualities than there is directed towards bisexuality. Ive seen only a couple members of the community show hate towards bi, but have much more often seen hate and exclusion towards asexuality and transgender, and a desire to remove them from the acronym/community because "isn't real" or is different and doesnt experience the hate and need for community like LGB does (which is very untrue)

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I wouldn't think that the majority of LGBT people are biphobic. There are very, very few, just like TERF or SWERF folks

TERFs are just terrible in every way. They spew shit like "bi women are repressed lesbians and bi men only fuck men because they're misogynists".

[The South Falls]

I wouldn't think that the majority of LGBT people are biphobic. There are very, very few, just like TERF or SWERF folks

TERFs are just terrible in every way. They spew shit like "bi women are repressed lesbians and bi men only fuck men because they're misogynists".

Men having sexual attraction

TERFs: Is that a personal attack or something?

[Qerdisme]

In my experience, biphobia is fairly rare among the LGBT community. The instances I've seen that aren't extremist posts generally stem from fear of dating bi people, a fear I harbor myself. The idea of being cheated on with someone of the opposite sex is, as a gay person, terrifying. That's the only real "biphobia" I see that isn't extreme or irrational.

[Scomagia]

I'm not a part of any stupid community based only on innate qualities. I'm in the human community. End of

innate qualities and the common goal to expand LGBTQA+ rights? to provide support for eachother because we can count on not finding secret homophobes, or transphobes, or whatever who seek to hurt or put us in conversion camps or whatever. a group that builds networks to advocate for political change for the enbetterment of human rights and safety. and a term to use for individuals who dont yet feel safe declaring their exact sexuality/gender orientation or dont even know yet...

The desire to end criminalization and abuse of all groups of humans who do not cause harm puts me, at most, in the Humanist group. But even humanism has angles that keep me from considering myself as being in a "humanist community".

[Scomagia]

Do it if it pleases you. I find it trite and counterproductive. If you like to identify as part of "such and such community", then you do you.

From my perspective, not being heterosexual is not a reasonable grounds for considering something a "community". Or, at least, it's not one I care to be associated with. Just like I don't consider myself as being in the "white" community, whatever the fuck that'd be, or in the "sexy" community. I may be those things but that's insufficient for me to be bonded with others in a "community".

No NS'er can be sexy.

We're all aliens with ugly huge soulless eyes.

Speak for yourself. My sexy ass has caused car accidents from all the gawking.

[The South Falls]

No NS'er can be sexy.

We're all aliens with ugly huge soulless eyes.

Speak for yourself. My sexy ass has caused car accidents from all the gawking.

My thighs clap together and start an earthquake. I have the abs of a mannequin. I bench and deadlift the sun. You want height? I'm 16'10"

[Cekoviu]

Oh yeah, it's an issue. It's not as big of a problem as racism and transphobia, but it's a problem. You've got people on one hand saying that bisexuality is transphobic and people on the other saying bisexuals aren't oppressed.