Salus Maior wrote:You know, the use of gas in warfare was probably one of humanity's lowest lows imo.
And that's saying a lot.
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by Esheaun Stroakuss » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:52 am
Salus Maior wrote:You know, the use of gas in warfare was probably one of humanity's lowest lows imo.
by Hanafuridake » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:28 pm
ElCKuT wrote:To me, Islamic culture means more than other cultures.
ElCKuT wrote:True but like I said, Al-Islam has rules for just about every single aspect of our lives that it might as well be its own culture.
Suriyanakhon's alt, finally found my old account's password李贽 wrote:There is nothing difficult about becoming a sage, and nothing false about transcending the world of appearances.
by ElCKuT » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:17 pm
Hanafuridake wrote:Just because you like it more doesn't mean that Islamic culture is the only one preserving. All of those cultures have produced monumental works that have contributed to the world's heritage, where would we be without works like Faust and the Mahabharata? Or without Rome's expansion throughout Western Europe (helping create the language you're speaking right now).
Hanafuridake wrote:But it's not.
Hanafuridake wrote:For however much you throw around Arab catchphrases you don't actually know anything about different Muslim countries
Hanafuridake wrote:and you'd probably be beaten up if you went to them.
Hanafuridake wrote:Ironically like Neo Nazis when they visit European countries and start talking about white unity.
by Napkizemlja » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:36 pm
Hanafuridake wrote:ElCKuT wrote:To me, Islamic culture means more than other cultures.
Just because you like it more doesn't mean that Islamic culture is the only one preserving. All of those cultures have produced monumental works that have contributed to the world's heritage, where would we be without works like Faust and the Mahabharata? Or without Rome's expansion throughout Western Europe (helping create the language you're speaking right now).ElCKuT wrote:True but like I said, Al-Islam has rules for just about every single aspect of our lives that it might as well be its own culture.
But it's not. For however much you throw around Arab catchphrases, you don't actually know anything about different Muslim countries, and you'd probably be beaten up if you went to them. Ironically like Neo Nazis when they visit European countries and start talking about white unity.
by Nova Cyberia » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:39 pm
by ElCKuT » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:42 pm
Napkizemlja wrote:Hanafuridake wrote:
Just because you like it more doesn't mean that Islamic culture is the only one preserving. All of those cultures have produced monumental works that have contributed to the world's heritage, where would we be without works like Faust and the Mahabharata? Or without Rome's expansion throughout Western Europe (helping create the language you're speaking right now).
But it's not. For however much you throw around Arab catchphrases, you don't actually know anything about different Muslim countries, and you'd probably be beaten up if you went to them. Ironically like Neo Nazis when they visit European countries and start talking about white unity.
This isn't mention how sharia is interpreted or the various other forms of Islam that have taken root. Nizaris and their culture are not even remotely close to that of Twelvers let alone any of the really strict and literal Sunni sects. Or for example Tunisia which recently legalized interfaith marriages between Muslim women and non-Muslim men, something that in a lot of other countries wouldn't be recognized or even considered illegal.
by Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:47 pm
by Diopolis » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:47 pm
by Nova Cyberia » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:49 pm
Diopolis wrote:TBH there's not really a self-consistent way to condemn the bombing of hiroshima but not dresden. You can condemn both, though.
by ElCKuT » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:53 pm
Diopolis wrote:TBH there's not really a self-consistent way to condemn the bombing of hiroshima but not dresden. You can condemn both, though.
by Bear Stearns » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:56 pm
by Diopolis » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:57 pm
by ElCKuT » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:02 pm
Diopolis wrote:I don't disagree with you. I am pointing out that if you're for bombing dresden, you can't be against bombing hiroshima. They were both war crimes, but let's not pretend hiroshima and nagasaki were war crimes far and above the rape of budapest, firebombings of tokyo and dresden, etc, etc.
by Bear Stearns » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:09 pm
Diopolis wrote:ElCKuT wrote:Bombing civilians is wrong, period. There's no good, moral way of justifying that.
Welcome back Amin.
I don't disagree with you. I am pointing out that if you're for bombing dresden, you can't be against bombing hiroshima. They were both war crimes, but let's not pretend hiroshima and nagasaki were war crimes far and above the rape of budapest, firebombings of tokyo and dresden, etc, etc.
by Diopolis » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:13 pm
Bear Stearns wrote:Diopolis wrote:Welcome back Amin.
I don't disagree with you. I am pointing out that if you're for bombing dresden, you can't be against bombing hiroshima. They were both war crimes, but let's not pretend hiroshima and nagasaki were war crimes far and above the rape of budapest, firebombings of tokyo and dresden, etc, etc.
The Soviet war crimes alone are basically on par with the Axis. British and American war crimes are up there with your typical imperialist tomfoolery.
by ElCKuT » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:14 pm
by Bear Stearns » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:15 pm
by Novus America » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:16 pm
Bear Stearns wrote:Diopolis wrote:Welcome back Amin.
I don't disagree with you. I am pointing out that if you're for bombing dresden, you can't be against bombing hiroshima. They were both war crimes, but let's not pretend hiroshima and nagasaki were war crimes far and above the rape of budapest, firebombings of tokyo and dresden, etc, etc.
The Soviet war crimes alone are basically on par with the Axis. British and American war crimes are up there with your typical imperialist tomfoolery.
by Novus America » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:19 pm
by Bear Stearns » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:19 pm
Novus America wrote:Bear Stearns wrote:And in the case of the nuclear strikes on Japan it was. Continuing the war would have killed far more.
The problem was Japan just refused to give up long after they were beaten. If Japan had surrendered after Leyte Gulf, or any time before the bombing they would not have happened,
The problem is many in the Japanese military and government preferred killing everyone in Japan over surrender.
by Hanafuridake » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:20 pm
Suriyanakhon's alt, finally found my old account's password李贽 wrote:There is nothing difficult about becoming a sage, and nothing false about transcending the world of appearances.
by Bear Stearns » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:21 pm
Novus America wrote:Also you need to read Hitler’s second book. He made it clear that after winning in Europe he sought an epic war to the death against the US.
He was totally insane and not going to stop.
by Diopolis » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:21 pm
Bear Stearns wrote:Diopolis wrote:Pretty much. Should've just stayed home in the first place.
Most Americans leaned that way until Pearl Harbor, and even then, most people just wanted to fight solely against Japan. Roosevelt actually had to run a pretty hard propaganda machine to drum up support going to war against Germany.
We could have literally ignored Germany's declaration of war and nothing would have happened to us.
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