Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVI: Making Things Right Again

[Esheaun Stroakuss]

You know, the use of gas in warfare was probably one of humanity's lowest lows imo.

And that's saying a lot.

[Duvniask]

You know, the use of gas in warfare was probably one of humanity's lowest lows imo.

Chemical weapons in general.

[Fahran]

Just don't be making thirsty posts on Insta like 90% of White girls this Summer.

So no pictures sitting on a cooler? Lame.

[Hanafuridake]

To me, Islamic culture means more than other cultures.

Just because you like it more doesn't mean that Islamic culture is the only one preserving. All of those cultures have produced monumental works that have contributed to the world's heritage, where would we be without works like Faust and the Mahabharata? Or without Rome's expansion throughout Western Europe (helping create the language you're speaking right now).

True but like I said, Al-Islam has rules for just about every single aspect of our lives that it might as well be its own culture.

But it's not. For however much you throw around Arab catchphrases, you don't actually know anything about different Muslim countries, and you'd probably be beaten up if you went to them. Ironically like Neo Nazis when they visit European countries and start talking about white unity.

[ElCKuT]

Just because you like it more doesn't mean that Islamic culture is the only one preserving. All of those cultures have produced monumental works that have contributed to the world's heritage, where would we be without works like Faust and the Mahabharata? Or without Rome's expansion throughout Western Europe (helping create the language you're speaking right now).

Point made but tbf it was my opinion (also English isn't that great of a language, there's better languages out there).

But it's not.

Yes it is.

For however much you throw around Arab catchphrases you don't actually know anything about different Muslim countries

I never claimed to.

and you'd probably be beaten up if you went to them.

Says who? This sounds like a stereotype.

Ironically like Neo Nazis when they visit European countries and start talking about white unity.

What?

[Napkizemlja]

To me, Islamic culture means more than other cultures.

Just because you like it more doesn't mean that Islamic culture is the only one preserving. All of those cultures have produced monumental works that have contributed to the world's heritage, where would we be without works like Faust and the Mahabharata? Or without Rome's expansion throughout Western Europe (helping create the language you're speaking right now).

True but like I said, Al-Islam has rules for just about every single aspect of our lives that it might as well be its own culture.

But it's not. For however much you throw around Arab catchphrases, you don't actually know anything about different Muslim countries, and you'd probably be beaten up if you went to them. Ironically like Neo Nazis when they visit European countries and start talking about white unity.

This isn't mention how sharia is interpreted or the various other forms of Islam that have taken root. Nizaris and their culture are not even remotely close to that of Twelvers let alone any of the really strict and literal Sunni sects. Or for example Tunisia which recently legalized interfaith marriages between Muslim women and non-Muslim men, something that in a lot of other countries wouldn't be recognized or even considered illegal.

[Nova Cyberia]

You know, the use of gas in warfare was probably one of humanity's lowest lows imo.

And that's saying a lot.

Funny, the Germans thought shotguns were worse lmao

[ElCKuT]

Just because you like it more doesn't mean that Islamic culture is the only one preserving. All of those cultures have produced monumental works that have contributed to the world's heritage, where would we be without works like Faust and the Mahabharata? Or without Rome's expansion throughout Western Europe (helping create the language you're speaking right now).


But it's not. For however much you throw around Arab catchphrases, you don't actually know anything about different Muslim countries, and you'd probably be beaten up if you went to them. Ironically like Neo Nazis when they visit European countries and start talking about white unity.

This isn't mention how sharia is interpreted or the various other forms of Islam that have taken root. Nizaris and their culture are not even remotely close to that of Twelvers let alone any of the really strict and literal Sunni sects. Or for example Tunisia which recently legalized interfaith marriages between Muslim women and non-Muslim men, something that in a lot of other countries wouldn't be recognized or even considered illegal.

Yes, a lot of the Ummah is misguided and we need help.

[Washington Resistance Army]

And that's saying a lot.

Funny, the Germans thought shotguns were worse lmao

Trench shotguns were pretty hardcore tbh

[Diopolis]

TBH there's not really a self-consistent way to condemn the bombing of hiroshima but not dresden. You can condemn both, though.

[Nova Cyberia]

TBH there's not really a self-consistent way to condemn the bombing of hiroshima but not dresden. You can condemn both, though.

Hiroshima and Dresden were both justifiable targets, tbh.

[ElCKuT]

TBH there's not really a self-consistent way to condemn the bombing of hiroshima but not dresden. You can condemn both, though.

Bombing civilians is wrong, period. There's no good, moral way of justifying that.

[Bear Stearns]

TBH there's not really a self-consistent way to condemn the bombing of hiroshima but not dresden. You can condemn both, though.

Bombing civilians is wrong, period. There's no good, moral way of justifying that.

Yeah, the Allied bombings of civilians during World War II were war crimes, plain and simple.

[Diopolis]

TBH there's not really a self-consistent way to condemn the bombing of hiroshima but not dresden. You can condemn both, though.

Bombing civilians is wrong, period. There's no good, moral way of justifying that.

Welcome back Amin.
I don't disagree with you. I am pointing out that if you're for bombing dresden, you can't be against bombing hiroshima. They were both war crimes, but let's not pretend hiroshima and nagasaki were war crimes far and above the rape of budapest, firebombings of tokyo and dresden, etc, etc.

[ElCKuT]

Bombing civilians is wrong, period. There's no good, moral way of justifying that.

Welcome back Amin.

Thank you

I don't disagree with you. I am pointing out that if you're for bombing dresden, you can't be against bombing hiroshima. They were both war crimes, but let's not pretend hiroshima and nagasaki were war crimes far and above the rape of budapest, firebombings of tokyo and dresden, etc, etc.

Agreed

[Bear Stearns]

Bombing civilians is wrong, period. There's no good, moral way of justifying that.

Welcome back Amin.
I don't disagree with you. I am pointing out that if you're for bombing dresden, you can't be against bombing hiroshima. They were both war crimes, but let's not pretend hiroshima and nagasaki were war crimes far and above the rape of budapest, firebombings of tokyo and dresden, etc, etc.

The Soviet war crimes alone are basically on par with the Axis. British and American war crimes are up there with your typical imperialist tomfoolery.

[Diopolis]

Welcome back Amin.
I don't disagree with you. I am pointing out that if you're for bombing dresden, you can't be against bombing hiroshima. They were both war crimes, but let's not pretend hiroshima and nagasaki were war crimes far and above the rape of budapest, firebombings of tokyo and dresden, etc, etc.

The Soviet war crimes alone are basically on par with the Axis. British and American war crimes are up there with your typical imperialist tomfoolery.

Pretty much. Should've just stayed home in the first place.

[ElCKuT]

The Soviet war crimes alone are basically on par with the Axis. British and American war crimes are up there with your typical imperialist tomfoolery.

Pretty much. Should've just stayed home in the first place.

Oooooo idk about that one, considering the Holocaust was going on.

[Bear Stearns]

The Soviet war crimes alone are basically on par with the Axis. British and American war crimes are up there with your typical imperialist tomfoolery.

Pretty much. Should've just stayed home in the first place.

Most Americans leaned that way until Pearl Harbor, and even then, most people just wanted to fight solely against Japan. Roosevelt actually had to run a pretty hard propaganda machine to drum up support going to war against Germany.

We could have literally ignored Germany's declaration of war and nothing would have happened to us.

[Novus America]

Welcome back Amin.
I don't disagree with you. I am pointing out that if you're for bombing dresden, you can't be against bombing hiroshima. They were both war crimes, but let's not pretend hiroshima and nagasaki were war crimes far and above the rape of budapest, firebombings of tokyo and dresden, etc, etc.

The Soviet war crimes alone are basically on par with the Axis. British and American war crimes are up there with your typical imperialist tomfoolery.

WWII was not imperialist on the part of the US (though the Soviets were really bad TBH).
Although international law was not as well developed.
The real question becomes is tha advantage gained by the attack greater than the harm caused?

And in the case of the nuclear strikes on Japan it was. Continuing the war would have killed far more.
The problem was Japan just refused to give up long after they were beaten. If Japan had surrendered after Leyte Gulf, or any time before the bombing they would not have happened,
The problem is many in the Japanese military and government preferred killing everyone in Japan over surrender.

[Novus America]

The Soviet war crimes alone are basically on par with the Axis. British and American war crimes are up there with your typical imperialist tomfoolery.

Pretty much. Should've just stayed home in the first place.

We still had to fight Japan, even if we ignored Europe. And how many would have died if we had?
Also you need to read Hitler’s second book. He made it clear that after winning in Europe he sought an epic war to the death against the US.
He was totally insane and not going to stop.

Our involvement in WWII was 100% justified.

[Bear Stearns]

The Soviet war crimes alone are basically on par with the Axis. British and American war crimes are up there with your typical imperialist tomfoolery.

WWII was not imperialist on the part of the US (though the Soviets were really bad TBH).

Tbh, for the Allies, the Pacific Theater wasn't really all that different from the colonial wars of the past. It just looked like a righteous crusade for freedom because Japan was trying to be Mongol Empire 2.0.

Although international law was not as well developed.
The real question becomes is tha advantage gained by the attack greater than the harm caused?

And in the case of the nuclear strikes on Japan it was. Continuing the war would have killed far more.
The problem was Japan just refused to give up long after they were beaten. If Japan had surrendered after Leyte Gulf, or any time before the bombing they would not have happened,
The problem is many in the Japanese military and government preferred killing everyone in Japan over surrender.

I don't deny the reasoning behind the atomic bombings, but that doesn't mean I think they were right. Perhaps necessary but also heinous as well.

[Hanafuridake]

In regard to economics, I'm partial to some form of corporatism which is grassroots and centered around localities, instead of the totalitarian centralized system which the Fascists proposed. There definitely needs to be a redistribution of land to poor & homeless people, I'm starting to think urban life was a major mistake.

[Bear Stearns]

Pretty much. Should've just stayed home in the first place.

We still had to fight Japan, even if we ignored Europe. And how many would have died if we had?

A lot, but now our problem.

Also you need to read Hitler’s second book. He made it clear that after winning in Europe he sought an epic war to the death against the US.
He was totally insane and not going to stop.

Hitler believed a lot of stupid things that were never going to happen, like the idea that he could win the war. If managed to eek out some sort of armistice in Europe the US would still be untouchable. If invading the US was going to be a logistical nightmare for the USSR in the Cold War, imagine how much worse it'd be for Germany.

[Diopolis]

Pretty much. Should've just stayed home in the first place.

Most Americans leaned that way until Pearl Harbor, and even then, most people just wanted to fight solely against Japan. Roosevelt actually had to run a pretty hard propaganda machine to drum up support going to war against Germany.

We could have literally ignored Germany's declaration of war and nothing would have happened to us.

Shouldn't have started with sanctions on Japan and lend lease, either. America should've stayed home, making a killing selling war material and raw material at inflated prices.