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Thoughts on HOTD Episode Ten: "The Black Queen"

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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:15 pm

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Tarsonis wrote:Last I heard the director of that episode wanted to kill everyone . But D&D said no

I think he also wanted a massive army of wolves fighting the undead too.


We couldn't even get a doggo hug, that would have completely blown the budget, but somehow Nymera saving Arya would have been OK if done right.

Upon further review, this read a lot more sarcastic than intended.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:41 pm

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Her and Jamie should have died together defending winterfell with ned stark's swords.

Btw, after further review. Mrs mermania is full on board with bran is now the blood raven theory. She says upon her further review, it is mostly based on the books and not the series, but she now has jumped on that bandwagon with both feet.

Last I heard the director of that episode wanted to kill everyone . But D&D said no


There could've been so many organic character deaths to happen in that episode.
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Postby Auristania » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:30 pm

Book!SUMMER ate zombies, the meat was a bit rancid, but it was mostly regular food.

Interweb makes a big deal that Jon Snow is the one true king of Targaryen blood-line.

Bolleaux! Danny nukes King's Landing. She proves she is the true heir of the mad king AND she reminds everybody why Westeros rebelled against Targaryens in the first place.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:03 pm

I am wading through fire and blood, and I got to say I am not feeling it.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:48 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:I am wading through fire and blood, and I got to say I am not feeling it.


It's strange. It's part (fictional) history book, part family biography, part novel. It does get kinda difficult keeping everyone's names straight but as you get more into it I think it gets better or that's what I thought, may have just been me getting used to the style.
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Postby The Biggles Syndicate » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:03 pm

Why did the old Targaryen continent just blow up and sink?

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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:05 pm

The Biggles Syndicate wrote:Why did the old Targaryen continent just blow up and sink?


Cause they touched themselves at night
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Postby Hanafuridake » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:09 pm

The Biggles Syndicate wrote:Why did the old Targaryen continent just blow up and sink?


That's supposed to be a mystery, don't think the books will ever address what happened.

Also, I thought that the Targ's were supposed to be the only family left with platinum hair and violet eyes, but apparently they're not (?) because House Velaryon also has those traits.
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Postby Ism » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:07 pm

The Biggles Syndicate wrote:Why did the old Targaryen continent just blow up and sink?


Suffice it to say, meth labs and dragons do not mix.

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Postby Tracian Empire » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:39 am

Hanafuridake wrote:
The Biggles Syndicate wrote:Why did the old Targaryen continent just blow up and sink?


That's supposed to be a mystery, don't think the books will ever address what happened.

Also, I thought that the Targ's were supposed to be the only family left with platinum hair and violet eyes, but apparently they're not (?) because House Velaryon also has those traits.

They certainly aren't the only ones with those features. Even excluding House Velaryon, there are a lot of people in some of the Free Cities, especially in Lys, who have Valyrian blood in their veins and have the Valyrian traits.

The Targs are however the last of the Valyrian dragonlord families. The Velaryions have an old and noble Valyrian lineage, as do the members of House Celtigar, but neither of them were dragonlords back when Valyria was still around.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:54 am

i think it was a combination of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions that fucked Valyria up.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:01 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:i think it was a combination of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions that fucked Valyria up.

That's what fire and blood says.
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Postby The Biggles Syndicate » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:55 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:i think it was a combination of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions that fucked Valyria up.

That's what fire and blood says.


My theory is that one of the old dragons had the special Cleganebowl sauce with his chicken. There was too much HYPE in the sauce for him, and soon his digestive system could not withstand it. The dragon knew he had to get to the bathroom quickly, but all of them were taken. In a last ditch gambit, the dragon used an extinct volcanic tunnel system as his throne. Unfortunately the sheer amount of HYPE exiting his bum smashed through the walls of the tunnels and connected with hot spots and active volcanic fissures all around Valyria. This predictably caused a massive chain reaction which basically made Valyria a really big undersea mountain range.

What do you think?

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Postby Cerinda » Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:55 pm

I hope George R.R. Martin will finish the books with Stannis, the rightful king sitting on the Iron Throne.
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Cerinda wrote:I hope George R.R. Martin will finish the books with Stannis, the rightful king sitting on the Iron Throne.

We all wish that, but martin is cruel.
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Postby Platypus Bureaucracy » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:09 pm

Cerinda wrote:I hope George R.R. Martin will finish the books with Stannis, the rightful king sitting on the Iron Throne.

But...like...why? I mean, beyond "Stannis is a cool, iron-willed badass."

Because hereditary monarchy? Because strict and brutal enforcement of the law? Because religious intolerance? Because setting people on fire?!

As conclusions go, that's hardly better than "the people who fight for justice are actually secretly the worst monsters of all, so let's just keep things much the same."
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Postby Cerinda » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:22 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Cerinda wrote:I hope George R.R. Martin will finish the books with Stannis, the rightful king sitting on the Iron Throne.

We all wish that, but martin is cruel.

I heard every time he laughs a beloved character dies.

Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:
Cerinda wrote:I hope George R.R. Martin will finish the books with Stannis, the rightful king sitting on the Iron Throne.

But...like...why? I mean, beyond "Stannis is a cool, iron-willed badass."

Because hereditary monarchy? Because strict and brutal enforcement of the law? Because religious intolerance? Because setting people on fire?!

As conclusions go, that's hardly better than "the people who fight for justice are actually secretly the worst monsters of all, so let's just keep things much the same."

Well apart from the fact he's the rightful king by birth right.

He is just:

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'I am lowborn,' Davos reminded him. 'An up jumped smuggler. your lords will never obey me.'
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Also "setting people on fire"

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Who would you rather sit on the throne? The bastards of Lannister incest? Daenrys? Who is a descendant of the mad king? Stannis is better than any other of the claimants to the Iron throne.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:32 pm

Cerinda wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:We all wish that, but martin is cruel.

I heard every time he laughs a beloved character dies.

Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:But...like...why? I mean, beyond "Stannis is a cool, iron-willed badass."

Because hereditary monarchy? Because strict and brutal enforcement of the law? Because religious intolerance? Because setting people on fire?!

As conclusions go, that's hardly better than "the people who fight for justice are actually secretly the worst monsters of all, so let's just keep things much the same."

Well apart from the fact he's the rightful king by birth right.

He is just:

Then rise again, Davos Seaworth, and rise as Lord of the Rainwood, Admiral of the Narrow Sea, and Hand of the King.'
For a moment Davos was too stunned to move. I woke this morning in his dungeon. 'Your Grace, you cannot I am not fit man to be a King's Hand.'
'There is no man fitter.' Stannis sheathed Lightbringer, gave Davos his hand, and pulled him to his feet.
'I am lowborn,' Davos reminded him. 'An up jumped smuggler. your lords will never obey me.'
'Then we will make new lords.'


Also "setting people on fire"

“A sacrifice will prove our faith still burns true, Sire,” Clayton Suggs had told the king. And Godry the Giantslayer said, “The old gods of the north have sent this storm upon us. Only R’hllor can end it. We must give him an unbeliever.”
“Half my army is made up of unbelievers,” Stannis had replied. “I will have no burnings. Pray harder.”


Who would you rather sit on the throne? The bastards of Lannister incest? Daenrys? Who is a descendant of the mad king? Stannis is better than any other of the claimants to the Iron throne.


Dany, she is the true dragon.
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Postby Cerinda » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:37 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Cerinda wrote:I heard every time he laughs a beloved character dies.


Well apart from the fact he's the rightful king by birth right.

He is just:



Also "setting people on fire"



Who would you rather sit on the throne? The bastards of Lannister incest? Daenrys? Who is a descendant of the mad king? Stannis is better than any other of the claimants to the Iron throne.


Dany, she is the true dragon.

Oh yes because the Targayrens have always been fair rulers right? Ask the victims of the Mad King if they want another Dragon being on the Throne.
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Postby Ism » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:51 pm

Cerinda wrote:I hope George R.R. Martin will finish the books with Stannis, the rightful king sitting on the Iron Throne.


Hot Pie is the one true king, and I shall never be convinced otherwise.

Cerinda wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Dany, she is the true dragon.

Oh yes because the Targayrens have always been fair rulers right? Ask the victims of the Mad King if they want another Dragon being on the Throne.


You could ask, but I don't think they'd give much in the way of answers. What with being dead and all.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:01 pm

Cerinda wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Dany, she is the true dragon.

Oh yes because the Targayrens have always been fair rulers right? Ask the victims of the Mad King if they want another Dragon being on the Throne.


The small folk were treated like shit no matter who ruled, they dont care. By the rights of inheritance, the throne belongs to her, Jon didnt want it.
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Postby Platypus Bureaucracy » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:09 pm

What about a House of Commons that can begin to put some limitations on the power of the throne, which goes to...maybe...someone nice?

Or we could bang on about people's ancestors. That's good too, I guess.
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Postby Cerinda » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:17 pm

Ism wrote:
Cerinda wrote:Oh yes because the Targayrens have always been fair rulers right? Ask the victims of the Mad King if they want another Dragon being on the Throne.


You could ask, but I don't think they'd give much in the way of answers. What with being dead and all.

Exactly. The Targayrens are invaders and tyrants who have no place ruling over anything.

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Cerinda wrote:Oh yes because the Targayrens have always been fair rulers right? Ask the victims of the Mad King if they want another Dragon being on the Throne.


The small folk were treated like shit no matter who ruled, they dont care. By the rights of inheritance, the throne belongs to her, Jon didnt want it.

Danny's right of inheritance stopped existing the second Jaime Lannister's sword went through Ares 2nd's back. The Targayrens no longer rule the seven kingdoms, the Baratheons do, so if anything Stannis has the right of inheritance because Robert's children are bastards born of incest.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:20 pm

Cerinda wrote:
Ism wrote:
You could ask, but I don't think they'd give much in the way of answers. What with being dead and all.

Exactly. The Targayrens are invaders and tyrants who have no place ruling over anything.

Ethel mermania wrote:
The small folk were treated like shit no matter who ruled, they dont care. By the rights of inheritance, the throne belongs to her, Jon didnt want it.

Danny's right of inheritance stopped existing the second Jaime Lannister's sword went through Ares 2nd's back. The Targayrens no longer rule the seven kingdoms, the Baratheons do, so if anything Stannis has the right of inheritance because Robert's children are bastards born of incest.

Robert was a usurper from the rightful but mad king. By right of inheritance, and right of conquest Dany is the one true queen.
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Postby Cerinda » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:29 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Cerinda wrote:Exactly. The Targayrens are invaders and tyrants who have no place ruling over anything.


Danny's right of inheritance stopped existing the second Jaime Lannister's sword went through Ares 2nd's back. The Targayrens no longer rule the seven kingdoms, the Baratheons do, so if anything Stannis has the right of inheritance because Robert's children are bastards born of incest.

Robert was a usurper from the rightful but mad king. By right of inheritance, and right of conquest Dany is the one true queen.

Robert was right in rebelling against that murderous lunatic, he believed his wife was kidnapped and all attempts at peace ended when Brandon and Rickard Stark were killed. The Targayrens are invaders and dictators, they don't deserve to rule Westeros or anything else at that matter, the only man who does is Stannis who is the one true king.
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