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by Salus Maior » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:54 pm
by Kowani » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:56 pm
Salus Maior wrote:You know, the use of gas in warfare was probably one of humanity's lowest lows imo.
by Salus Maior » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:57 pm
by Kowani » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:58 pm
by Salus Maior » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:01 pm
by Kowani » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:16 pm
by Novus America » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:17 pm
by Salus Maior » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:20 pm
by Novus America » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:25 pm
by Salus Maior » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:29 pm
Novus America wrote:
Fine no, but justified if better than the alternative.
by Totally Not OEP » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:57 pm
Novus America wrote:Salus Maior wrote:
Obliterating a city of civilians with a single bomb isn't a moral problem?
Not to mention all the people who die of radiation poisoning and things like cancer.
It was necessary to prevent even more deaths. An outright invasion or massive famine from the collapse of the Japanese economy would have killed far more.
by Totally Not OEP » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:02 pm
by United Muscovite Nations » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:44 pm
by Totally Not OEP » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:49 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Like Tars said, we can't really debate whether it was justified or not, it's still wrong that hundreds of thousands of people were destroyed in an instant. Such devices shouldn't exist and should fill us with fear.
by United Muscovite Nations » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:53 pm
Totally Not OEP wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:Like Tars said, we can't really debate whether it was justified or not, it's still wrong that hundreds of thousands of people were destroyed in an instant. Such devices shouldn't exist and should fill us with fear.
The alternative was that Japan would not exist as a nation-state and that, eventually, you'd have Soviet tanks at the Channel. All things considered, Nuclear weapons are one of the best things ever invented and even now the research that led to them is taking us in the path of Nuclear Fusion which will change everything for Humanity.
by Novus America » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:57 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Like Tars said, we can't really debate whether it was justified or not, it's still wrong that hundreds of thousands of people were destroyed in an instant. Such devices shouldn't exist and should fill us with fear.
by Totally Not OEP » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:58 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Totally Not OEP wrote:
The alternative was that Japan would not exist as a nation-state and that, eventually, you'd have Soviet tanks at the Channel. All things considered, Nuclear weapons are one of the best things ever invented and even now the research that led to them is taking us in the path of Nuclear Fusion which will change everything for Humanity.
As Tolkien said, what I know is that God doesn't look favorably on Babel-builders.
by United Muscovite Nations » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:59 pm
by Jolthig » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:01 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Like Tars said, we can't really debate whether it was justified or not, it's still wrong that hundreds of thousands of people were destroyed in an instant. Such devices shouldn't exist and should fill us with fear.
by Novus America » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:03 pm
Totally Not OEP wrote:Had Nicholas Trist died in the Fall of 1847 from the disease outbreaks than spreading among the American forces in Mexico City, the United States would've annexed all of Mexico in 1848 and the world would've been a better place for it.
by Novus America » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:07 pm
by Hanafuridake » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:09 pm
Tolkien wrote:Language—and more so as expression than as communication [we need to return to this proviso later]—is a natural product of our humanity. But it is therefore also a product of our individuality. We each have our own personal linguistic potential: we each have a native language. But that is not the language that we speak, our cradle-tongue, the first-learned. Linguistically we all wear ready-made clothes, and our native language comes seldom to expression, save perhaps by pulling at the ready made till it sits a little easier. But though it may be buried, it is never wholly extinguished, and contact with other languages may stir it deeply.
Suriyanakhon's alt, finally found my old account's password李贽 wrote:There is nothing difficult about becoming a sage, and nothing false about transcending the world of appearances.
by Napkizemlja » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:11 pm
by Totally Not OEP » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:18 pm
Hanafuridake wrote:I don't think that we will ever really reach a full understanding of the role of the atomic bombings in the imperial decision to surrender, the bombings in imperial briefings were mentioned in conjunction with the Soviet declaration of war which cancelled the hopes of the militarists that some sort of white peace could be bargained for. One general commented that the bombing and declaration of war were both a blessing in disguise because they allowed the government to surrender for reasons other than popular unrest over food shortages.
But speaking about Tolkien, I was reading an article about his view of language and the relation to human expression.Tolkien wrote:Language—and more so as expression than as communication [we need to return to this proviso later]—is a natural product of our humanity. But it is therefore also a product of our individuality. We each have our own personal linguistic potential: we each have a native language. But that is not the language that we speak, our cradle-tongue, the first-learned. Linguistically we all wear ready-made clothes, and our native language comes seldom to expression, save perhaps by pulling at the ready made till it sits a little easier. But though it may be buried, it is never wholly extinguished, and contact with other languages may stir it deeply.
by ElCKuT » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:23 am
To me, Islamic culture means more than other cultures.Hanafuridake wrote:Germanic culture, Latin culture, Hindu culture, East Asian culture aren't worth preserving?
True but like I said, Al-Islam has rules for just about every single aspect of our lives that it might as well be its own culture.Hanafuridake wrote:There are massive cultural differences between traditionally Muslim peoples. Islam has cultural aspects like all religions but it's not a culture itself.
Or report them.Novus America wrote:Which is why we need to not reply when someone tries to start such a thread jack.
Though I disagree with this. Someone threadjacking doesn't make their messages empty.Novus America wrote:We can just ignore those same empty comments we have heard over and over.
Then why were you talking about how you wanted to end the "Islamic threat"?Novus America wrote:This is very true. It should be noted that as much as I want to put a stop to Salafism, I (unlike the PRC) do not want to attempt to ban Islam, let alone exterminate it from people who have adopted it.
I just want to stop the spread of the aggressive strains.
SameAl Mumtahanah wrote:I don't why unbelievers imagine Sufism is some sort of sect or liberal version of Islam. It's a mystical practice.
That's an biased, ignorant view of Turkish history. A heck of a lot more things happened than just that.New Byzantia wrote:Turkish accomplishments? You mean despoiling, genociding and robbing the Greeks, Armenians and Slavs for centuries?
Probs a little bit of both. Though I'd like to be optimistic about things and say true masculinity still exists.Bienenhalde wrote:Is the problem really "effeminacy", per se, or is it that we have replaced healthy masculinity with more toxic and degenerate forms of masculinity?
Well, in some cases it is true.Kowani wrote:1: Neo-Nazis.
2: It implies that society has gotten worse, when that’s just untrue.
ThisCapuccina wrote:Ataturk shouldn't have attempted to secularize Turkey, that's where he erred. Instead trying to turn Turkey into a European nation, he should've modernized within an Islamic framework.
:lol2:Kowani wrote:This is why I hate English.
No, he should've re-embraced Al-Islam. That or be [redacted because of site rules]Nakena wrote:He should have embraced the Tengri.
Because English is dumbNakena wrote:Why?
But there's nothing to criticize from if someone does so by sociopathy.Kowani wrote:Amorality is fine if motivated by sound logic. Not if done so by sociopathy.
I'd say that it's ShayTaan (Satan). Secularism is just one of the symptoms of him.Kowani wrote:Secularism is the worst of diseases, the greatest plague there is.
Pls no, I don't want another warKowani wrote:We could always try that now...Heck, maybe we could even convince the Russians to get in on it.
Because kufr (disbelief) law is secularism, something that they are allowed to live by.Al Mumtahanah wrote:How is that secularism?
Also, not all religions have their own laws so their adherents would naturally abide by kufr lawJolthig wrote:Yet, it's secular to the point that non muslims dont adhere to Islamic teachings
Insha-Allah the protesters winAl Mumtahanah wrote:>protest snip<
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