Would God approve of Guns

[Jeoloba]

I remember this conversation was started by me in the What if America banned guns forum but stopped, mainly because it was off topic. So I decided to make a forum for it.
In the bible it says "Thou shalt not kill" -Exodus 20:13, and guns were made to do just that. However as most us know, the bible is full of contradictions.

“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.” -Matthew 10:34

This clearly contradicts the quote from the bible "Thou shalt not kill".

So what do you guys think, do you think God would approve of guns, not approve of guns, or not know what god would think because of all those contradictions in the bible?
Edit: Thou shalt not murder sounds better than Thou shalt not kill.
Edit 2: Thou shalt not commit murder is the Original Commandment not Thou shalt not kill.
Edit 3: The contradiction I mentioned before is not a good one so the new one is the Israelites murdering people for their holy land.

[Lanorth]

Don't ask me such difficult questions. I have no idea. I think it depends.

[Pacomia]

I remember this conversation was started by me in the What if America banned guns forum but stopped, mainly because it was off topic. So I decided to make a forum for it.
In the bible it says "Thou shalt not kill" -Exodus 20:13, and guns were made to do just that. However as most us know, the bible is full of contradictions.

“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.” -Matthew 10:34

This clearly contradicts the quote from the bible "Thou shalt not kill".

So what do you guys think, do you think God would approve of guns, not approve of guns, or not know what god would think because of all those contradictions in the bible?

Too many contradictions to tell. Hell, too many contradictions about God. We barely know anything about his actual personality.

And that’s disregarding the fact that he probably doesn’t exist.

[Kernen]

Its irrelevant, since no god has any bearing on individual rights.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

It doesn't matter what the Bible says, because the Bible's a mess of contradictions from which nothing coherent can be gleaned.

God can't approve of guns because he isn't real.

People who believe in God, however, approve of guns. Just look at rural areas, the deep south, and especially the rural areas of the deep south.

/thread

[Kowani]

Well…maybe if he could keep his own story straight, we could get a decent framework from which to base an opinion.

[Free Arabian Nation]

Depends, which god?

Old Testament? Yes

New Testament? Maybe

[The Great-German Empire]

Probably would tbh - or at least he would be 'cool with it'. He had no qualms with swords, bows etc. so there's no reason to assume he would have anything to say against them. Even if we go strictly by 'Thou shalt not kill' God is definitely not against hunting, and guns have a huge application there.

[Nakena]

Depends on the God.

Mars, bringer of war, would allow them. So would Odin, Thor, etc.

[Napkizemlja]

I remember this conversation was started by me in the What if America banned guns forum but stopped, mainly because it was off topic. So I decided to make a forum for it.
In the bible it says "Thou shalt not kill" -Exodus 20:13, and guns were made to do just that. However as most us know, the bible is full of contradictions.

“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.” -Matthew 10:34

This clearly contradicts the quote from the bible "Thou shalt not kill".

So what do you guys think, do you think God would approve of guns, not approve of guns, or not know what god would think because of all those contradictions in the bible?

That commandment is better translated as "Thou shalt not murder". It's in the context of unlawful killing. That said, God has commanded us to pursue peace but we also live in an imperfect world where there will be those who wish to do us harm. We are allowed to defend ourselves in that instance.

[Nakena]

Depends, which god?

Old Testament? Yes

New Testament? Maybe

So you say that that are two different ones?

[Highever]

This just seems like a really week "gotcha" attempt by simplifying things down to one commandment. Nevermind the fact that no law abiding gun owner has a gun to kill people. There are other uses for a firearm, you know.

[Free Arabian Nation]

Depends, which god?

Old Testament? Yes

New Testament? Maybe

So you say that that are two different ones?

Pretty much, one's bloodthirsty and one pretends not to be bloodthirsty.

[Nakena]

So you say that that are two different ones?

Pretty much, one's bloodthirsty and one pretends not to be bloodthirsty.

Agreed. But christians cannot get it overthemself to ditch the OT god into the dumpster.

[The Two Jerseys]

The God that commits war crimes against Egyptians and burns down cities for being naughty?

Yes, yes he would.

[Telconi]

Presumably the 'Thou shall not kill' is an overly broad translation, given that God specifically condones and commands killing in various circumstances.

Perhaps "Thou shalt not murder" is a better way to phrase that.

[Fartsniffage]

We've been using them for several centuries. If she disapproves then she's had plenty of time to make her feeling known.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

God does not exist, therefore what he would think is irreverent.

[Grinning Dragon]

Well since man is made in the image of god, and all things are by the hand of god, therefore god would approve of arms.

[Fartsniffage]

Well since man is made in the image of god, and all things are by the hand of god, therefore god would approve of arms.

But possibly not fire arms or bear arms since she didn't give us those.

[Nakena]

God does not exist, therefore what he would think is irreverent.

I assume you mean the abrahamite God.

Why you give him this special treatment? Why not just "Gods dont exist"

You claim to be atheist and yet are you subconciously influenced by monotheism.

Well since man is made in the image of god, and all things are by the hand of god, therefore god would approve of arms.

But possibly not fire arms or bear arms since she didn't give us those.

Oh which Goddess is it?

[LiberNovusAmericae]

God does not exist, therefore what he would think is irreverent.

I assume you mean the abrahamite God.

Why you give him this special treatment? Why not just "Gods dont exist"

You claim to be atheist and yet are you subconciously influenced by monotheism.

But possibly not fire arms or bear arms since she didn't give us those.

Oh which Goddess is it?

Well this thread is about the abahamite god, or at least the OP seems to be.

[Jeoloba]

Its irrelevant, since no god has any bearing on individual rights.

Didn't kings claim to have the divine right to rule from god? From what I remember these same kings, who ruled from the will of god, were not fans of individual rights.

[Skyhooked]

Ya' mean christian God?

Well, let's just say, not guns, but people kill people, guns are just tools, so... he would be indifferent to them, like to any other object.

And what about other gods of other religions? Wonder, what would they think of guns.

[Fartsniffage]

I assume you mean the abrahamite God.

Why you give him this special treatment? Why not just "Gods dont exist"

You claim to be atheist and yet are you subconciously influenced by monotheism.



Oh which Goddess is it?

Well this thread is about the abahamite god, or at least the OP seems to be.

Indeed. And since mankind is made in her image and there are more women around than men, logically God is a woman.