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Marxist Germany
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Founded: Jun 07, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Marxist Germany » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:31 pm

Ambassador Klaus spits his coffee after receiving the news of passage, "Oh my, the margin of passing makes it impossible to repeal this resolution! Well, thanks to you not specifying where the treatment needs to be received, we're simply referring all patients of gender dysphoria to hospitals in France to receive treatment! Bugger your hormones! Bugger your trans rights!."
He leaves the chamber dancing.

"Don't mind Klaus, he drank a bit too much cider this morning, we're still implementing that policy however," adds his assistant.

OOC:Congrats on your first resolution Morover.
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Morover
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Founded: Oct 14, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Morover » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:37 pm

Marxist Germany wrote:Ambassador Klaus spits his coffee after receiving the news of passage, "Oh my, the margin of passing makes it impossible to repeal this resolution! Well, thanks to you not specifying where the treatment needs to be received, we're simply referring all patients of gender dysphoria to hospitals in France to receive treatment! Bugger your hormones! Bugger your trans rights!."
He leaves the chamber dancing.

"Don't mind Klaus, he drank a bit too much cider this morning, we're still implementing that policy however," adds his assistant.

OOC:Congrats on your first resolution Morover.

"That's fine, ambassador, so long as you don't make it difficult to access and make sure the transportation costs are reasonable."

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Attempted Socialism
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Attempted Socialism » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:29 pm

"We congratulate the delegation from Morover on passing their first resolution with flying colours. May we invite the non-transphobic delegations to celebrate with an absurd amount of dark lager, fizzy wine and hard liqour, while we dance on the empty chairs left behind by the dishonourable delegations for whom transphobia outweighed membership of this august body? With hormone therapy already legal and entirely free, we do believe ourselves to be substantially in compliance already. However, after we have dealt with the celebratory hangovers, we will assure that we are in full compliance with this magnificent step forward for human rights."


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Imbalistan
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Founded: May 22, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Imbalistan » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:39 pm

Attempted Socialism wrote:"We congratulate the delegation from Morover on passing their first resolution with flying colours. May we invite the non-transphobic delegations to celebrate with an absurd amount of dark lager, fizzy wine and hard liqour, while we dance on the empty chairs left behind by the dishonourable delegations for whom transphobia outweighed membership of this august body? With hormone therapy already legal and entirely free, we do believe ourselves to be substantially in compliance already. However, after we have dealt with the celebratory hangovers, we will assure that we are in full compliance with this magnificent step forward for human rights."

"Mr. Guevara's stomach cant take that amount of alcohol, but our vice leader would be happy to come to replace him."
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Gagium
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Postby Gagium » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:54 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Israeli Commonwealth wrote:OOC:
As am I. If you would read my spoiler. I left the WA due to it. NationStates is outweighed by liberal progressive socialists to the conservative capitalists or even the libertarians.

This passage has shown the vast outnumbering of us. Lucky for you and me something as barbaric as that would never pass in real life because people in the political field usually have more common sense. Even Hillary Clinton wouldn't support this. It is unethical, and countless doctors have said that children should not be introduced to hormone therapy.

Children can be deceived by the media or by family. This has happened countless times, and kids go on hormones. When this said child grows up some of them regret it. But at that point it is irreversible.

Also, personally, I have seen a lot evidence pointing to the fact that Gender Dysphoria does not even exist. One of the best points I can make is that no other animal in nature (that does not switch sex naturally, such as some frogs) has gender dysphoria. Gender Dysphoria also did not exist until the past 70 years or so. Homosexuality is a different story, I am not talking about that. May I also add that some chemicals in foods, soaps, sunscreen, skin lotion, and other items can cause hormone imbalance. That can unfortunately lead to Gender Dysphoria.

A better resolution would by increasing funds for psychiatric help for those who may have Gender Dysphoria.

If you disagree with me that is your right but it is wrong to force me to have this. I could continue but I have to go. I rest my case.


OOC: We know that is your puppet, dude.

Also, the WA is pretty overwhelmingly pro-market. Calling it run by socialists is outright hilarious.

Are you saying that they've been WA multi'ing?
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Fushiya
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Founded: Jul 12, 2019
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Postby Fushiya » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:12 pm

Hilarious seeing the illegal repeal threads after this.

I did call it on this thread some pages back, I believe.

It was an inevitable prediction.
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Imbalistan
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Postby Imbalistan » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:16 pm

Fushiya wrote:Hilarious seeing the illegal repeal threads after this.

I did call it on this thread some pages back, I believe.

It was an inevitable prediction.

OOC: There have been 2, one riddled with more spelling mistakes then my school speech, the second using smilies.
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Fushiya
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Postby Fushiya » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:22 pm

Imbalistan wrote:
Fushiya wrote:Hilarious seeing the illegal repeal threads after this.

I did call it on this thread some pages back, I believe.

It was an inevitable prediction.

OOC: There have been 2, one riddled with more spelling mistakes then my school speech, the second using smilies.


OOC: Truth is, philosophy of NS and online vs RL aside, this was a well prepared resolution and if we play by the WA's book out of Rp context, repealing this on a technicality would be near impossible unless to make way for some improved resolution that covers it, possibly.
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Araraukar
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Postby Araraukar » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:58 pm

OOC: Just pointing out that GA threads are not general chat threads. TET is over in the NSG forum, not NSGA.
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Kyoki Chudoku
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Kyoki Chudoku » Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:01 pm

Tokiko let out a sigh, then offered a meagre clap at the resolution’s passage. It seemed Kyoki Chudoku’s prison complexes would suffer from even more intense expenses. Maybe they needed to execute more of the traitors, that’d save on the costs they needed to fully rebuild...

“Congrats on passin’ this, I guess. I’d better call up Naosu, she’s not gonna be happy about all the synthesis we’re gonna have to do...”

With that, the Chudokuren diplomat departed from the room,

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Saint Arsenio
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Postby Saint Arsenio » Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:03 pm

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Yeah...else most of us would be. :p

No... not really. Maybe some, but not most :)
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Kynor
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Postby Kynor » Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:07 pm

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Union of Sovereign States and Republics
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Postby Union of Sovereign States and Republics » Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:37 pm

The Soviet delegate rose out of his seat.

"It pains me to see the resolution has passed. However, I must congratulate the delegates of Morover for their first successful resolution. While we may not agree with all the points on non-binary gender identity, we do agree with all other points and we do see that this is a necessary addition."
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Kurha
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Kurha » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:55 pm

After hours of deliberation the Kurha High Council through its delegate Ahra'j the Seventh has reached its verdict.

"This proposal will burden our people with taxes and force us further into rejecting the principles of our ancestors, may their souls guide us. We will figure a way to elude it and preserve the sovereignty of our nation. The High Council will not engage in conflict, however they do not approve any increase in tax burdens to our kin."

Ahra'j walked out of the hall leaving behind a banner with the seal of her clan and a receipt marking the calculated costs in medical procedures. A
smudged note written in purple ink was written behind it. The note was discarded by WA delegates.

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Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories
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Postby Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:55 pm

An auspicious occasion, our heartiest congratulations to the delegate from Morover!

Too long have transgender people not been guaranteed the meaningful right to medical transition in all WA member states. This legislation has closed a loophole previously used by slimy, wormlike governments to continue to oppress the vulnerable and divide the proletarian masses. Let all who fear the power of a united working class rest uneasy, a decisive blow has been dealt against them this day.

The Socialist Republic's laws require no amendment as a result of this legislation, as full and free access to hormone therapy is granted though the Republic's much-esteemed Ministry of Health. Any nations seeking a State-driven solution to amending legislation, constructing and organising relevant infrastructure, and/or developing any necessary training schemes, please do not hesitate to contact my office in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, where such arrangements can be discussed.

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Postby Jocospor » Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:19 am

Wow, this thread got heated!

Some resigned congratulations for Morover, whose World Assembly posturing is certainly getting it somewhere. We can perhaps wonder at the sincerity of this proposal. After all, Morover constantly sprouts untruths about the CCD to better its standing amongst those it...respects? Craves to be?

Whatever Morover's attraction to the World Assembly, another badge-hunting demagogue is in the making for all to enjoy.
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Lamoni
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Postby Lamoni » Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:08 am

Jocospor wrote:Wow, this thread got heated!

Some resigned congratulations for Morover, whose World Assembly posturing is certainly getting it somewhere. We can perhaps wonder at the sincerity of this proposal. After all, Morover constantly sprouts untruths about the CCD to better its standing amongst those it...respects? Craves to be?

Whatever Morover's attraction to the World Assembly, another badge-hunting demagogue is in the making for all to enjoy.


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Honkworld
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Postby Honkworld » Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:54 pm

Fushiya wrote:Hilarious seeing the illegal repeal threads after this.

They're only "ilegall" because the WA has a secret agenda.

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Araraukar
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Postby Araraukar » Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:59 pm

Honkworld wrote:
Fushiya wrote:Hilarious seeing the illegal repeal threads after this.

They're only "ilegall" because the WA has a secret agenda.

OOC: The "secret agenda" is known as Proposal Rules. And can be found in a sticky near the top of this forum.
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Separatist Peoples
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:37 am

Honkworld wrote:
Fushiya wrote:Hilarious seeing the illegal repeal threads after this.

They're only "ilegall" because the WA has a secret agenda.

OOC: What Ara said. The rules are applied unflinchingly and without regards to politics.

You want to repeal this law? Write a legal repeal.

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The Sovereign Realist State
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Postby The Sovereign Realist State » Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:19 pm

The united american-isreali empire wrote:I am very offended at this passage. Why must we recognize. This gender confusion is nonsense. I do not support this act one bit. It isnt very fair to nations that are conservative and old fashioned.


The Land of the Ephyral wrote:"Following the passing of this resolution, the Senate and Freeborn Landholders of Ephyra will be initiating a withdrawal from the World Assembly."


Israeli Commonwealth wrote:If you disagree with me that is your right but it is wrong to force me to have this. I could continue but I have to go. I rest my case.


Fortunately, there are regions that exist outside the control of the WA, with no Delegate and no memberships. That is where you find true national freedom.

For all you lefties celebrating, just imagine what will happen the day your little friends decide to force you to implement something you disagree with.

The WA overstepped its mandate years ago and is now just a platform for SJW fetishes.

Thank your proving it.
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