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by Vassenor » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:22 am
by Impaled Nazarene » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:44 am
Vassenor wrote:Oh right I forgot we're not allowed to have any sort of positive view of 8 at all.
Kiaculta wrote:Oh, Kar, you silly sack of shit.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Bickering ist krieg.
Infected Mushroom wrote:isn't this a bit extreme?
Finland SSR wrote:"Many dictatorships are oligarchies.
Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."
-said no one ever. I made these words up.
Genivaria wrote:"WHY!? Why do this!? Thousands of planets and trillions of innocent lives gone! For what!?"
"It seemed like fun at the time."
by Chan Island » Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:35 am
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Vassenor wrote:Oh right I forgot we're not allowed to have any sort of positive view of 8 at all.
I quite liked it actually but even I have to admit that Rian fucked up so much. Like I'm not sure how they're going to unfuck it.
8 could have been a whole lot better if it had a time skip like every other movie in the franchise. The fact it began pretty much exactly after 7 ended put it on a very rocky start which turned into a rockslide of bad ideas and poor execution.
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Idzequitch » Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:40 am
Vassenor wrote:Oh right I forgot we're not allowed to have any sort of positive view of 8 at all.
by Andsed » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:12 am
Vassenor wrote:Oh right I forgot we're not allowed to have any sort of positive view of 8 at all.
by The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:13 am
Its vass, dont bother.Idzequitch wrote:Vassenor wrote:Oh right I forgot we're not allowed to have any sort of positive view of 8 at all.
Not sure where that idea came from, except for the sake of being overly dramatic. If you liked VIII, say something positive about it. Let's talk about it. I'll most likely disagree with that viewpoint and say so, and that's okay. But let's not devolve into moaning about the popularity (or lack thereof) of our viewpoints. If you liked it that's great. If you have a point, you're welcome to make it. And then I'll argue with you till Mustafar freezes over because I'll very likely disagree
by Ameriganastan » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:24 am
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Plenty of people on here including myself and mentioned time and time again that we like The Last Jedi, and outside of one really bitter person we have not any problems expressing our liking of the movie not have we been dogpiled on over it.
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.
Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity
Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.
Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*
by Impaled Nazarene » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:39 am
Kiaculta wrote:Oh, Kar, you silly sack of shit.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Bickering ist krieg.
Infected Mushroom wrote:isn't this a bit extreme?
Finland SSR wrote:"Many dictatorships are oligarchies.
Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."
-said no one ever. I made these words up.
Genivaria wrote:"WHY!? Why do this!? Thousands of planets and trillions of innocent lives gone! For what!?"
"It seemed like fun at the time."
by Jolthig » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:59 am
Impaled Nazarene wrote:One thing I've always wondered is what Palpatine's personality was like when he wasn't hiding under his guise as chancellor. Obviously he was a ruthless evil man who had no issue committing mass atrocities and the most successful Sith since the Old Republic Sith Emperor. But I have seen differing portrayals of him in old books/comics.
by Dylar » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:01 am
St. Albert the Great wrote:"Natural science does not consist in ratifying what others have said, but in seeking the causes of phenomena."
Franko Tildon wrote:Fire washes the skin off the bone and the sin off the soul. It cleans away the dirt. And my momma didn't raise herself no dirty boy.
by Forsher » Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:34 am
Idzequitch wrote:Vassenor wrote:Oh right I forgot we're not allowed to have any sort of positive view of 8 at all.
Not sure where that idea came from, except for the sake of being overly dramatic. If you liked VIII, say something positive about it. Let's talk about it. I'll most likely disagree with that viewpoint and say so, and that's okay. But let's not devolve into moaning about the popularity (or lack thereof) of our viewpoints. If you liked it that's great. If you have a point, you're welcome to make it. And then I'll argue with you till Mustafar freezes over because I'll very likely disagree
Idzequitch wrote:Impaled Nazarene wrote:Disney forced JJ to play it safe with 7 but still did a "good" job, Rian shat himself with 8, and now JJ only has like 2.5 hours to unfuck 8 with 9.
The plane is already in a nosedive let's hope it pulls up and most of us survive the inevitable crash.
This is very much my attitude towards IX as well.
by Pax Nerdvana » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:30 am
Dylar wrote:I'm forming a little bit of a theory about 9 right now if you want to read it.Basically it's going to start out with Kylo trying to hunt down the Resistance and then it's going to take a bit of a Dark Empire turn where Palpatine returns somehow(probably in a clone body) and tries to take the title of Supreme Leader from Kylo. Which then causes a civil war to break out in the FO. Sith Troopers on Palps' side with whoever's loyal to Kylo on the other side. And for all we know, Kylo's side might form a fragile truce/alliance with the Resistance.
by Ism » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:46 am
Forsher wrote:Idzequitch wrote:Not sure where that idea came from, except for the sake of being overly dramatic. If you liked VIII, say something positive about it. Let's talk about it. I'll most likely disagree with that viewpoint and say so, and that's okay. But let's not devolve into moaning about the popularity (or lack thereof) of our viewpoints. If you liked it that's great. If you have a point, you're welcome to make it. And then I'll argue with you till Mustafar freezes over because I'll very likely disagree
You literally just said you agreed that Star Wars is an inevitable plane crash:Idzequitch wrote:This is very much my attitude towards IX as well.
This isn't Vass' being overly dramatic but instead a perfectly reasonable interpretation of "Star Wars is crashing and burning". Note that there are 0 posts between your agreement post and Vass' "no positive opinions allowed".
Be more careful in your use of language and perhaps this problem wouldn't exist?
by Lord Dominator » Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:02 am
by Fedel » Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:29 am
Ism wrote:Forsher wrote:
You literally just said you agreed that Star Wars is an inevitable plane crash:
This isn't Vass' being overly dramatic but instead a perfectly reasonable interpretation of "Star Wars is crashing and burning". Note that there are 0 posts between your agreement post and Vass' "no positive opinions allowed".
Be more careful in your use of language and perhaps this problem wouldn't exist?
Maybe if people didn’t assume that someone disliking something meant they demand everyone dislike it, this problem wouldn’t exist?
by Fedel » Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:29 am
Lord Dominator wrote:Because clearly, the Force itself is the past that needs to die and this would be the proof about it
by Lord Dominator » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:19 pm
by Impaled Nazarene » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:54 pm
Kiaculta wrote:Oh, Kar, you silly sack of shit.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Bickering ist krieg.
Infected Mushroom wrote:isn't this a bit extreme?
Finland SSR wrote:"Many dictatorships are oligarchies.
Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."
-said no one ever. I made these words up.
Genivaria wrote:"WHY!? Why do this!? Thousands of planets and trillions of innocent lives gone! For what!?"
"It seemed like fun at the time."
by The Empire of Pretantia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:43 pm
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Andsed wrote:TBH I have to agree there. The trailer looked okay and I think JJ did a decent job with TFA.
Disney forced JJ to play it safe with 7 but still did a "good" job, Rian shat himself with 8, and now JJ only has like 2.5 hours to unfuck 8 with 9.
The plane is already in a nosedive let's hope it pulls up and most of us survive the inevitable crash.
by New haven america » Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:00 pm
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Andsed wrote:TBH I have to agree there. The trailer looked okay and I think JJ did a decent job with TFA.
Disney forced JJ to play it safe with 7 but still did a "good" job, Rian shat himself with 8, and now JJ only has like 2.5 hours to unfuck 8 with 9.
The plane is already in a nosedive let's hope it pulls up and most of us survive the inevitable crash.
by Impaled Nazarene » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:11 am
New haven america wrote:Impaled Nazarene wrote:Disney forced JJ to play it safe with 7 but still did a "good" job, Rian shat himself with 8, and now JJ only has like 2.5 hours to unfuck 8 with 9.
The plane is already in a nosedive let's hope it pulls up and most of us survive the inevitable crash.
Their so screwed right now that JJ's been forced to revisit the treatment for Episode 7 that Lucas made in order to get a movie out. No one wanted to listen to Lucas about how the ST should be done, but now it seems like he's their last hope to save the trilogy.
Kiaculta wrote:Oh, Kar, you silly sack of shit.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Bickering ist krieg.
Infected Mushroom wrote:isn't this a bit extreme?
Finland SSR wrote:"Many dictatorships are oligarchies.
Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."
-said no one ever. I made these words up.
Genivaria wrote:"WHY!? Why do this!? Thousands of planets and trillions of innocent lives gone! For what!?"
"It seemed like fun at the time."
by Fedel » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:03 am
by Vassenor » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:22 am
Fedel wrote:Let's be clear here:
Disney is a passionless corporation only out to make money. They bought Star Wars in order to make it the next MCU.
TFA was a bad remake of ANH.
TLJ was not formulaic but it was bad as it; had some jarring tonal issues, didn't respect the backgrounds of pre-established characters, seemed to often contradict itself in the message it tried to get across, was inconsistent with elements of its own universe and story, neutered its villains for the sake of comedy and shock value and generally just favored style over substance.
HOWEVER
Bringing Lucas in to implement his own ideas would not necessarily have been an improvement. While I believe Lucas to be creatively gifted, I do not think he's all that great at executing his ideas.
I will say that I think if Lucas had done the sequels they would have been better then what we got ( if still not we would have wanted ).
by Fedel » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:57 am
Vassenor wrote:Fedel wrote:Let's be clear here:
Disney is a passionless corporation only out to make money. They bought Star Wars in order to make it the next MCU.
TFA was a bad remake of ANH.
TLJ was not formulaic but it was bad as it; had some jarring tonal issues, didn't respect the backgrounds of pre-established characters, seemed to often contradict itself in the message it tried to get across, was inconsistent with elements of its own universe and story, neutered its villains for the sake of comedy and shock value and generally just favored style over substance.
HOWEVER
Bringing Lucas in to implement his own ideas would not necessarily have been an improvement. While I believe Lucas to be creatively gifted, I do not think he's all that great at executing his ideas.
I will say that I think if Lucas had done the sequels they would have been better then what we got ( if still not we would have wanted ).
>didn't respect the backgrounds of pre-established characters
wait what
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