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Which Book on Leftist Ideology is Your Preferred Book?

The Communist Manifesto (Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels)
23
18%
The Conquest of Bread (Peter Kropotkin)
24
19%
Das Kapital (Karl Marx)
21
16%
What is Property? (Pierre-Joseph Proudhon)
2
2%
Guerilla Warfare (Che Guevara)
8
6%
Mutual Aid (Peter Kropotkin)
2
2%
Profit Over People (Noam Chomsky)
4
3%
The Ego and Its Own (Max Stirner)
8
6%
Debt: The First 5,000 Years (David Graeber)
5
4%
Other (Please Explain)
32
25%
 
Total votes : 129

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Nova Cyberia
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:48 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
North German Realm wrote:I mean, it's not the freeing people that's the terrorist act part, it's the means that the guy used for that end.


Bingo^

I gotta say, burning down the building holding the children is an odd way to go about saving them.
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:23 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:Facebook actually made a shitload of money from a spike in investments after news that it would be fined 5 billion dollars hit.

Facebook shares actually jumped on the news, rising 1% on Friday to the highest they've been in the past year.

Tfw when your fines are so blatantly shit that issueing them is a government declaring a company is basically above the law and the company *gains* money.

Zuckerberg himself, just him, made a billion dollars from the news.

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Liriena
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Postby Liriena » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:43 pm

be gay do crime


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United Muscovite Nations
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:03 pm


She's also in it for the money and doesn't really believe in it.
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Hanafuridake
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Founded: Sep 09, 2018
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Postby Hanafuridake » Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:07 pm



You needed a video to tell you that the single childless woman constantly exhorting white females to get married and make babies is a fraud?
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Torrocca
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Postby Torrocca » Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:13 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:

She's also in it for the money and doesn't really believe in it.


Gotta love grifters, amirite?
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Hanafuridake
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Postby Hanafuridake » Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:19 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:

She's also in it for the money and doesn't really believe in it.


Talk about being talentless.

I mean, I'm a NEET right now, so I'm not particularly one to talk. But at least I don't pander to alt-righters for money.
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Cerinda
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Postby Cerinda » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:11 pm

Ah yes, known Socialist Angela Merkel

Another big brained take from the White Nationalist cult leader.
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Cekoviu
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:12 pm

Cerinda wrote:Ah yes, known Socialist Angela Merkel

Another big brained take from the White Nationalist cult leader.

"Not an argument."
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Torrocca
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:16 pm

Cerinda wrote:Ah yes, known Socialist Angela Merkel

Another big brained take from the White Nationalist cult leader.


Ah yes, famed leader of the center-right Christian Democratic Union is a Socialist.

Fucking Molyneux would probably blame Socialism for a spider biting him in his stupid fucking face.
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Kowani
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Founded: Apr 01, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:18 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Cerinda wrote:Ah yes, known Socialist Angela Merkel

Another big brained take from the White Nationalist cult leader.


Ah yes, famed leader of the center-right Christian Democratic Union is a Socialist.

Fucking Molyneux would probably blame Socialism for a spider biting him in his stupid fucking face.

Nah. Spiders own their means of production. They can’t Socialists.
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Torrocca
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:20 pm

Kowani wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Ah yes, famed leader of the center-right Christian Democratic Union is a Socialist.

Fucking Molyneux would probably blame Socialism for a spider biting him in his stupid fucking face.

Nah. Spiders own their means of production. They can’t Socialists.


Spiders are actually peak Socialists on account of owning their own MoP. :3
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Hanafuridake
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Founded: Sep 09, 2018
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Postby Hanafuridake » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:21 pm

Cerinda wrote:Ah yes, known Socialist Angela Merkel

Another big brained take from the White Nationalist cult leader.


Can you really call Molyneux a leader?

Leader implies he has some sort of intelligence and decision-making powers.
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Kowani
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:22 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:
Cerinda wrote:Ah yes, known Socialist Angela Merkel

Another big brained take from the White Nationalist cult leader.


Can you really call Molyneux a leader?

Leader implies he has some sort of intelligence and decision-making powers.

Oof. :lol2:
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Torrocca
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Founded: Dec 01, 2011
Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:23 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:
Cerinda wrote:Ah yes, known Socialist Angela Merkel

Another big brained take from the White Nationalist cult leader.


Can you really call Molyneux a leader?

Leader implies he has some sort of intelligence and decision-making powers.


What're you talking about? Spending an hour of your life screeching about a children's hour-and-a-half long animated movie because of women is actually the greatest measure of leadership imaginable.
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Nakena
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Founded: May 06, 2017
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Postby Nakena » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:54 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:
Cerinda wrote:Ah yes, known Socialist Angela Merkel

Another big brained take from the White Nationalist cult leader.


Can you really call Molyneux a leader?

Leader implies he has some sort of intelligence and decision-making powers.


A cringe lord. I never understood why he got such a large followership and popularity.
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Cekoviu
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:56 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Cerinda wrote:Ah yes, known Socialist Angela Merkel

Another big brained take from the White Nationalist cult leader.


Ah yes, famed leader of the center-right Christian Democratic Union is a Socialist.

Fucking Molyneux would probably blame Socialism for a spider biting him in his stupid fucking face.

That implies that spiders would want to be anywhere within 50 feet of him, which is highly unlikely.
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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Posts: 9474
Founded: Aug 11, 2017
Anarchy

Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:06 pm

Nakena wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
Can you really call Molyneux a leader?

Leader implies he has some sort of intelligence and decision-making powers.


A cringe lord. I never understood why he got such a large followership and popularity.

Even in the height of my anti-SJW phase, I took one look at his videos and went "Nah, this guy is cringe."
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Proctopeo
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Founded: Sep 26, 2016
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Postby Proctopeo » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:20 pm

Cerinda wrote:Ah yes, known Socialist Angela Merkel

Another big brained take from the White Nationalist cult leader.

Tbf calling her (or her party) "center-right" any more is totally false, but she's more a social democrat than a socialist

regardless, she sucks as a leader and needs actual priorities, good thing she won't be coming back for round five lol
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Cekoviu
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:22 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Cerinda wrote:Ah yes, known Socialist Angela Merkel

Another big brained take from the White Nationalist cult leader.

Tbf calling her (or her party) "center-right" any more is totally false, but she's more a social democrat than a socialist

regardless, she sucks as a leader and needs actual priorities, good thing she won't be coming back for round five lol

Ooh, more application of the American Overton window to Europe! This isn't something we've seen before!
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Washington Resistance Army
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Founded: Aug 08, 2011
Father Knows Best State

Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:22 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Tbf calling her (or her party) "center-right" any more is totally false, but she's more a social democrat than a socialist

regardless, she sucks as a leader and needs actual priorities, good thing she won't be coming back for round five lol

Ooh, more application of the American Overton window to Europe! This isn't something we've seen before!


I mean, people apply the European overton window to the US all the time. Can't blame Proct for doing the same but in reverse tbh.
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Torrocca
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Founded: Dec 01, 2011
Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:24 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Ooh, more application of the American Overton window to Europe! This isn't something we've seen before!


I mean, people apply the European overton window to the US all the time. Can't blame Proct for doing the same but in reverse tbh.


Except the American Overton Window is absolute ass lmao

Merkel's absolutely center-right politically.
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Nakena
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Postby Nakena » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:27 pm

US and European political spectrum grow increasingly similar.

Globalist left-liberal vs Nationalist conservatives (or whatever you want to call the two ones)

And in this constellation Merkel is on the left.
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Cekoviu
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:28 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Ooh, more application of the American Overton window to Europe! This isn't something we've seen before!


I mean, people apply the European overton window to the US all the time. Can't blame Proct for doing the same but in reverse tbh.

That's some top-tier whataboutism.
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Proctopeo
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Postby Proctopeo » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:36 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Tbf calling her (or her party) "center-right" any more is totally false, but she's more a social democrat than a socialist

regardless, she sucks as a leader and needs actual priorities, good thing she won't be coming back for round five lol

Ooh, more application of the American Overton window to Europe! This isn't something we've seen before!

I'm just applying the superior perspective, is all. ;)

Cekoviu wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I mean, people apply the European overton window to the US all the time. Can't blame Proct for doing the same but in reverse tbh.

That's some top-tier whataboutism.

His point doesn't disappear just because you go "whataboutism!!".
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