I think I misread, tbh. Kowani apparently doesn't believe in rights? Wtf is he arguing for then?
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by Cappuccina » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:19 am
by Novus America » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:15 am
by Napkizemlja » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:55 am
by Greater Adamsia » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:19 am
Napkizemlja wrote:Since religions survived the Stalinist era and communist Romania, continue to survive in the PRC and North Korea, Kowani's ideas are doomed to failure. People will just use their homes as places of worship, just as they do now in the PRC, North Korea, and in fundamentalist states (Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc) and other secret locations. It's also how Christianity survived and spread in Antiquity until it became socially tolerated. Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc will just go underground just as they have in the past until society gets its head out of its ass.
This is also why utilitarians are dangerous since they often slip into brutal totalitarianism.
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intellectual achievement. While in modern times, religiosity and spirituality has waned somewhat, the zealous drive to achieve
social and moral perfection has oft been labeled as "secular Puritanism" by detractors.
by Al Mumtahanah » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:19 am
Laïcité ([la.i.si.te]), literally "secularity", is a French concept of secularism. It discourages religious involvement in government affairs, especially religious influence in the determination of state policies; it also forbids government involvement in religious affairs, and especially prohibits government influence in the determination of religion. However, laïcité doesn't preclude a right to the free exercise of religion. [1][2]
by Ohioan Territory » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:27 am
by Greater Adamsia » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:41 am
<THE REPUBLIC OF ADAMSIA>
The Republic of Adamsia was founded on the shores of Massachusetts Bay by the Puritans as a new Zion, as a
theocratic utopia in the wilderness of New England. Adamsia has a culture that emphasizes duty, and stresses the good of the
community even if (and especially if) it requires individual self-abnegation. The majority of Puritan settlers in early Adamsians
were educated to some degree; as such, Adamsian culture has a generally "bourgeois" ethos and immense respect for
intellectual achievement. While in modern times, religiosity and spirituality has waned somewhat, the zealous drive to achieve
social and moral perfection has oft been labeled as "secular Puritanism" by detractors.
by Novus America » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:44 am
by Greater Adamsia » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:46 am
<THE REPUBLIC OF ADAMSIA>
The Republic of Adamsia was founded on the shores of Massachusetts Bay by the Puritans as a new Zion, as a
theocratic utopia in the wilderness of New England. Adamsia has a culture that emphasizes duty, and stresses the good of the
community even if (and especially if) it requires individual self-abnegation. The majority of Puritan settlers in early Adamsians
were educated to some degree; as such, Adamsian culture has a generally "bourgeois" ethos and immense respect for
intellectual achievement. While in modern times, religiosity and spirituality has waned somewhat, the zealous drive to achieve
social and moral perfection has oft been labeled as "secular Puritanism" by detractors.
by North German Realm » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:01 am
5 Nov, 2020
Die Morgenpost: "We will reconsider our relationship with Poland" Reichskanzler Lagenmauer says after Polish president protested North German ultimatum that made them restore reproductive freedom. | European Society votes not to persecute Hungary for atrocities committed against Serbs, "Giving a rogue state leave to commit genocide as it sees fit." North German delegate bemoans. | Negotiations still underway in Rome, delegates arguing over the extent of indemnities Turkey might be made to pay, lawful status of Turkish collaborators during occupation of Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Syria.
by Al Mumtahanah » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:05 am
by Duvniask » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:14 am
Al Mumtahanah wrote:North German Realm wrote:There is literally no country, historical or modern, that has had its law based on Islam, that has respected -much less upheld- religious freedom. The very existence of law-based-on-religion is by its nature against religious freedom lmao.
Islam applies different laws to you depending on your religion, you follow the laws of your holy book or clergy.
by Al Mumtahanah » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:20 am
by Al Mumtahanah » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:33 am
by North German Realm » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:37 am
Al Mumtahanah wrote:North German Realm wrote:There is literally no country, historical or modern, that has had its law based on Islam, that has respected -much less upheld- religious freedom. The very existence of law-based-on-religion is by its nature against religious freedom lmao.
Islam applies different laws to you depending on your religion, you follow the laws of your holy book or clergy.
5 Nov, 2020
Die Morgenpost: "We will reconsider our relationship with Poland" Reichskanzler Lagenmauer says after Polish president protested North German ultimatum that made them restore reproductive freedom. | European Society votes not to persecute Hungary for atrocities committed against Serbs, "Giving a rogue state leave to commit genocide as it sees fit." North German delegate bemoans. | Negotiations still underway in Rome, delegates arguing over the extent of indemnities Turkey might be made to pay, lawful status of Turkish collaborators during occupation of Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Syria.
by Novus America » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:39 am
by Duvniask » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:40 am
by Al Mumtahanah » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:43 am
Novus America wrote:Al Mumtahanah wrote:Muslim states
They absolutely do not.
Allowing a religious minority to exist, which in strict confines is not religious freedom.
Penalize apostasy (but only for one religion, Christians in Muslim states can not punish apostates who convert to Islam), you grossly violated religious freedom.
The state funds mosques yet strongly restricts the ability of Christians to build churches? Also violates religious freedom.
Of course also Atheists get nothing either, not even second class citizenship.
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