Coreect. Again, where's the part about me saying they should be lashed for their sexuality? You said that I support that, so please find it.
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by ECKU » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:40 pm
by The South Falls » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:40 pm
by The Emerald Legion » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:41 pm
by Joohan » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:43 pm
by The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:44 pm
....ECKU wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:"To me, it should be 100 slashes, not stoning"
Literally you saying someone should be flogged 100 times for having gay sex.
Coreect. Again, where's the part about me saying they should be lashed for their sexuality? You said that I support that, so please find it.
by Necroghastia » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:46 pm
Joohan wrote:Good. It's time for a push away from secular viewpoints. Not to mention, a nice insult towards those in Europe who would deprive others of basic religious freedoms.
by ECKU » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:47 pm
by Soviet Taoistan » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:47 pm
by Plzen » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:47 pm
Joohan wrote:Good. It's time for a push away from secular viewpoints. Not to mention, a nice insult towards those in Europe who would deprive others of basic religious freedoms.
by Necroghastia » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:48 pm
by ECKU » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:50 pm
Soviet Taoistan wrote:Been talking with a bunch of my Muslim friends about this (note: I'm not Muslim but my paternal side is). Their seem to be two camps and an extra mini-camp, at least for the under 35 crowd.
The first and more common view seems to be "it will probably amount to nothing but I trust Hamza Yusef and he's a respected scholar, so I'm cool with it. Stop arguing and causing division among the community." The second side is much more skeptical and thinks that he'll be a "token Muslim" that Trump will use for cover to prop up the Muslim ban or attack Ilhan Omar. They see this new role as a definite mistake but aren't quick to call him out. The mini camp are the progressive who have disliked him for a while after he worked in a similar capacity for the Bush admin, started being more cozy with conservative Arab governments, and said things that could be construed as racist and homophobic. They're mostly exasperated that he continues to be the face of "Liberal Islam" since by their reckoning he's firmly a mainstream conservative.
by The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:50 pm
by Cekoviu » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:51 pm
Plzen wrote:ECKU wrote:I'm saying that Allah SWT doesn't belong to me, I don't have possession of Him. That's not how it works in Al-Islam. On the contrary, I belong to Him.
In the English language the possessive case does not always imply literal possession. It simply states that one is associated with the other. Note, for example: "my country."
by Al Mumtahanah » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:51 pm
ECKU wrote:Soviet Taoistan wrote:Been talking with a bunch of my Muslim friends about this (note: I'm not Muslim but my paternal side is). Their seem to be two camps and an extra mini-camp, at least for the under 35 crowd.
The first and more common view seems to be "it will probably amount to nothing but I trust Hamza Yusef and he's a respected scholar, so I'm cool with it. Stop arguing and causing division among the community." The second side is much more skeptical and thinks that he'll be a "token Muslim" that Trump will use for cover to prop up the Muslim ban or attack Ilhan Omar. They see this new role as a definite mistake but aren't quick to call him out. The mini camp are the progressive who have disliked him for a while after he worked in a similar capacity for the Bush admin, started being more cozy with conservative Arab governments, and said things that could be construed as racist and homophobic. They're mostly exasperated that he continues to be the face of "Liberal Islam" since by their reckoning he's firmly a mainstream conservative.
Since when was Shaykh Yusuf the face of "liberal" (aka hypocrite) Islam? Also those pessimists have a point, I never thought of it like that. Imma still be optimistic though
by ECKU » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:52 pm
by ECKU » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:54 pm
The Huskar Social Union wrote:ECKU wrote:Are you capable of telling the difference between "sexuality" as in the expression of it (excluding the sexual parts) and "sex" as in the actual act of intercourse?
I dont know if you know this or not, but f*cking someone, is a key part of someones sexuality. In fact *ucking someone is a pretty big f*cking expression of your sexuality.
You whipping someone 100 times because they fuc*ed someone of the same gender, if whipping them for their sexuality.
You are stretching this soooooooo f*cking much to justify your bull*hit its sad, this kind of *hit amin, this kind of shit is why you are a threat. And a key proponent for why Islam should modernise, so that less people with your mind set are part of the next generation.
by ECKU » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:54 pm
Al Mumtahanah wrote:ECKU wrote:Since when was Shaykh Yusuf the face of "liberal" (aka hypocrite) Islam? Also those pessimists have a point, I never thought of it like that. Imma still be optimistic though
He said Shariaa should never be imposed on non Muslims but Islam will never accept same sex intercourse or marriage.
by ECKU » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:56 pm
by The Blaatschapen » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:56 pm
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Humans are the only species on this planet that is capable of following a religion.
by Al Mumtahanah » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:57 pm
by ECKU » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:57 pm
by Cekoviu » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:00 pm
ECKU wrote:Cekoviu wrote:Which means what in English?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alhamdulillah
But why'd you want to know? I wasn't even talking to you (I don't mean that in a mean way)
by The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:01 pm
ECKU wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:I dont know if you know this or not, but f*cking someone, is a key part of someones sexuality. In fact *ucking someone is a pretty big f*cking expression of your sexuality.
You whipping someone 100 times because they fuc*ed someone of the same gender, if whipping them for their sexuality.
You are stretching this soooooooo f*cking much to justify your bull*hit its sad, this kind of *hit amin, this kind of shit is why you are a threat. And a key proponent for why Islam should modernise, so that less people with your mind set are part of the next generation.
Explain to me how talking on a forum makes me a threat.
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