by Vals Hyrserd » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:06 am
by Parina » Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:27 am
by Polata City » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:59 pm
by A m e n r i a » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:40 pm
by Freiderichsland » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:42 pm
Vals Hyrserd wrote:Another needs to be the nation with the heir.
by Vals Hyrserd » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:57 pm
Polata City wrote:Sounds interesting.
The Principality of Polata City would definitely try and get a Royal marriage going so that the line doesn’t die out
My main nation is Thermodolia
by Vals Hyrserd » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:58 pm
by Vals Hyrserd » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:15 pm
A m e n r i a wrote:Amenria would support whichever leader is most benevolent and theocratic. If the current duke is good, especially lawful good, then it would make sense if I were allies with him. If all three leaders are good, the most lawful one would be the best bet.
by A m e n r i a » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:31 am
Vals Hyrserd wrote:A m e n r i a wrote:Amenria would support whichever leader is most benevolent and theocratic. If the current duke is good, especially lawful good, then it would make sense if I were allies with him. If all three leaders are good, the most lawful one would be the best bet.
It doesn't matter if the current Grand Duke is good, he won't live forever, at the same time, this is about his heir. His current heir is dying. The next in line is considered politically unacceptable by certain foreign power(s). As a character he hasn't been created yet, so I can't say much about him. There will be no theocracy though.
by Vals Hyrserd » Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:18 am
by A m e n r i a » Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:34 am
Vals Hyrserd wrote:The Grand Duchy is a constitutional monarchy. While the Grand Duke is not purely ceremonial and has a lot of influence on foreign policy, he can't and won't change the constitution, no matter who religious he is. The majority religion is Protestant Christian. The Grand Ducal family is Huguenot, but most Protestants are Lutheran.
Also, are you a fantasy nation that takes place in the future?
by Vals Hyrserd » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:41 am
A m e n r i a wrote:Vals Hyrserd wrote:The Grand Duchy is a constitutional monarchy. While the Grand Duke is not purely ceremonial and has a lot of influence on foreign policy, he can't and won't change the constitution, no matter who religious he is. The majority religion is Protestant Christian. The Grand Ducal family is Huguenot, but most Protestants are Lutheran.
Also, are you a fantasy nation that takes place in the future?
Yes, yes I am. 2047, to be exact. Futuristic to MT, but primitive to FT.
by A m e n r i a » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:28 am
Vals Hyrserd wrote:A m e n r i a wrote:
Yes, yes I am. 2047, to be exact. Futuristic to MT, but primitive to FT.
Well these events are happening in 2019, so. um. yeah. This really isn't a time travel RP. Especially since time travel is really irresponsible with all those paradoxes etc.
I think even if your nation was just technologically advanced, and not chronologically, that would still create some issues. Your nation seems interesting in ways that not only potentially distract from the main plot they are so interesting, but also allow you to dominate everyone. As your nation contains the three largest countries by population plus additional large countries, you must have more than half the world's population. On top of being a especially strong superpower in the national sense, you have people with actual super powers. The power dynamic is so unbalanced that that would be the subtext between every diplomatic action, because no one would be strong enough to say no to you.
In short, I don't see how you can participate in this RP unless your retcons address the above listed issues.
by Vals Hyrserd » Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:35 am
by Freiderichsland » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:55 am
by Polata City » Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:01 am
Vals Hyrserd wrote:Polata City wrote:Sounds interesting.
The Principality of Polata City would definitely try and get a Royal marriage going so that the line doesn’t die out
My main nation is Thermodolia
With whom do you want to arrange the marriage? The current Grand Duke is married and has three daughters. He is 71 and his wife is over 60, so not going to have a kid, probably not going to get divorced and remarried if that is what your suggesting. The Grand Duke's cousin is the next heir and is terminally ill, so it is possible that he marries and sires a child before he dies, if that what you want to do?
by Crysuko » Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:49 pm
by Vals Hyrserd » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:06 am
Polata City wrote:Vals Hyrserd wrote:
With whom do you want to arrange the marriage? The current Grand Duke is married and has three daughters. He is 71 and his wife is over 60, so not going to have a kid, probably not going to get divorced and remarried if that is what your suggesting. The Grand Duke's cousin is the next heir and is terminally ill, so it is possible that he marries and sires a child before he dies, if that what you want to do?
How old is the Grand Dukes cousin? If he’s between 20-27 then a royal marriage with the eldest daughter of Prince James II could work.
If not we could also have a male line cousin of the Grand Duke be apart of the royal extended family
Freiderichsland wrote:Vals Hyrserd wrote:Yes, this is what I mean.
Then I’d like to apply for that position. The heir would be a distant cousin to the current monarch, correct? So what if they’re the child of an estranged member of the monarch’s dynastic family, who married into a Freiderichslander noble family, and so now they see a chance to inherit the throne and thus get revenge on the other parts of the family who cast their parent out? That would provide some tension internally as well because the heir would be relatively ignorant of Valsian customs and etiquette, and maybe disdainful of those traditions.
As well, Freiderichsland would like a chance to gain a close trade partner who could provide natural resources like the ones your nation exports.
by Polata City » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:25 am
Vals Hyrserd wrote:Polata City wrote:How old is the Grand Dukes cousin? If he’s between 20-27 then a royal marriage with the eldest daughter of Prince James II could work.
If not we could also have a male line cousin of the Grand Duke be apart of the royal extended family
I have written in the factbook, that he is 39, but I can also change that.
by Crysuko » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:02 am
by Freiderichsland » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:06 pm
Vals Hyrserd wrote:Freiderichsland wrote:what if they’re the child of an estranged member of the monarch’s dynastic family, who married into a Freiderichslander noble family, and so now they see a chance to inherit the throne and thus get revenge on the other parts of the family who cast their parent out? That would provide some tension internally as well because the heir would be relatively ignorant of Valsian customs and etiquette, and maybe disdainful of those traditions.
I like this idea. I also noticed you are in the same region as Parina, what is your current relationship IC ?
by Parina » Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:23 pm
Freiderichsland wrote:Vals Hyrserd wrote:I also noticed you are in the same region as Parina, what is your current relationship IC ?
We have not had any real IC interactions yet, but I’m sure we can work out some backstory to reference. Freiderichsland is a land of traditions, and our culture has a militant undercurrent (a legacy of our beginnings as a collection of feuding raider tribes) that I suspect will not mesh well with Parina’s culture.
I could see our nations actually not being that antagonistic to each other in other circumstances, but I’m thinking that maybe the heir that Freiderichsland backs is a close friend of the current Grand Duke, and so he is willing to upset Parina in order to help the heir press his claim.
by Kedri » Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:35 pm
by Etrurica » Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:55 pm
by Vals Hyrserd » Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:37 pm
Kedri wrote:I admit I'm not too knowledgeable about the intricacies of monarchical systems, but I see this as very interesting. I have an idea for a character who comes here hoping to inherit the throne. I would say he would be a potential suitor, but I'd imagine all of the Grand Duke's daughters are married?
He doesn't have the support of the Kedrian government and is acting on his own. However, I think interesting situations could arise over a misunderstanding (though not a war.)
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