MAGAThread XVI: Raising the Barr

[Telconi]

A better president.

We're not talking about our hopes and dreams for the future, nor engaging in fantasy role-playing, the question was what the gains are?

And it's been answered twice.

[Fartsniffage]

This is like watching tennis. Only boring.

[Gravlen]

We're not talking about our hopes and dreams for the future, nor engaging in fantasy role-playing, the question was what the gains are?

And it's been answered twice.

Not at all. But that's how you roll.

[Gravlen]

This is like watching tennis. Only boring.

Pfft! How can it get more boring than tennis?

[Telconi]

And it's been answered twice.

Not at all. But that's how you roll.

Come back when you actually want to read huh?

[Gravlen]

Not at all. But that's how you roll.

Come back when you actually want to read huh?

Only if you come back when you have something to contribute.

So bye, I guess.

[Gravlen]

In other news:

Trump's Oklahoma campaign chair Ralph Shortey to plead guilt to child sex trafficking

Donald Trump’s Former Campaign Manager Tim Nolan Sentenced to 20 Years in Prison for Child Sex Trafficking

Two more examples of The Best people.

[Gormwood]

In other news:

Trump's Oklahoma campaign chair Ralph Shortey to plead guilt to child sex trafficking

Donald Trump’s Former Campaign Manager Tim Nolan Sentenced to 20 Years in Prison for Child Sex Trafficking

Two more examples of The Best people.

But But Pizzagate!

[Zurkerx]

In other news:

Trump's Oklahoma campaign chair Ralph Shortey to plead guilt to child sex trafficking

Donald Trump’s Former Campaign Manager Tim Nolan Sentenced to 20 Years in Prison for Child Sex Trafficking

Two more examples of The Best people.

The last link is from February of last year, that's old news. Hmm, regardless, he does not hire the best people in terms of integrity at least. They may do their actual jobs well but he picks rather cringey people.

[Cannot think of a name]

This is like watching tennis. Only boring.

NSG by Michelangelo Antonioni.

[San Lumen]

In other news:

Trump's Oklahoma campaign chair Ralph Shortey to plead guilt to child sex trafficking

Donald Trump’s Former Campaign Manager Tim Nolan Sentenced to 20 Years in Prison for Child Sex Trafficking

Two more examples of The Best people.

the rank and file republican voter could likely care less

[Tarsonis]

I’ve said multiple times it’s not being misrepresented

Yes. And then admitted that you were lying.

I most certainly did not, you just seen quite misinformed on how our voting mechanisms work.

[Tarsonis]

How about Maryland’s? It’s always funny to me that the people bitching about gerrymandering really only carry about republican gerrymandering. Just like how the vast majority of those who suddenly oppose the electoral college, only do so because the Dems lost it in 2016.

Yes, that's fucking shit as well.

And if you care to do the digging, you'll find plenty of my posts from well before 2016 condeming the Electoral College. Don't project your own mercenary attitude onto others.

And if you’ll take a reading comprehension course and come back to this post, you’ll see I said vast majority, not everyone. If the shoe fits, wear it. Other wise, me thinks thou doth protest too much.

[Telconi]

In other news:

Trump's Oklahoma campaign chair Ralph Shortey to plead guilt to child sex trafficking

Donald Trump’s Former Campaign Manager Tim Nolan Sentenced to 20 Years in Prison for Child Sex Trafficking

Two more examples of The Best people.

the rank and file republican voter could likely care less

What's that have to do with anything really?

[Tarsonis]

the rank and file republican voter could likely care less

What's that have to do with anything really?

Thread had gone a whole page without San hating on republicans, so he had to work it in somehow.

[Duhon]

Trump reportedly asks aides to find ways to weaken the dollar

The abovequoted is the shot. Now for the chaser:

Mnuchin: US may run out of cash by September, causing Muslims in NJ/NY to dance all over the streets once more

[San Lumen]

Trump reportedly asks aides to find ways to weaken the dollar

The abovequoted is the shot. Now for the chaser:

Mnuchin: US may run out of cash by September, causing Muslims in NJ/NY to dance all over the streets once more

we shouldn't raise the debt ceiling and ought to stop borrowing money only use tax revenue to pay for stuff. If we don't have the money we don't get to have it which is how any responsible company or individual runs their finances

[Telconi]

The abovequoted is the shot. Now for the chaser:

Mnuchin: US may run out of cash by September, causing Muslims in NJ/NY to dance all over the streets once more

we shouldn't raise the debt ceiling and ought to stop borrowing money only use tax revenue to pay for stuff. If we don't have the money we don't get to have it which is how any responsible company or individual runs their finances

And here I thought Republicans were supposed to be the ones who wanted to trash welfare.

[Cannot think of a name]

The abovequoted is the shot. Now for the chaser:

Mnuchin: US may run out of cash by September, causing Muslims in NJ/NY to dance all over the streets once more

we shouldn't raise the debt ceiling and ought to stop borrowing money only use tax revenue to pay for stuff. If we don't have the money we don't get to have it which is how any responsible company or individual runs their finances

Countries are not companies.

[Ordenstaat Burgundy]

The abovequoted is the shot. Now for the chaser:

Mnuchin: US may run out of cash by September, causing Muslims in NJ/NY to dance all over the streets once more

we shouldn't raise the debt ceiling and ought to stop borrowing money only use tax revenue to pay for stuff. If we don't have the money we don't get to have it which is how any responsible company or individual runs their finances

Surprisingly you and I actually agree on something. It's ridiculous that we're borrowing as much as we are and driving ourselves ever closer towards financial catastrophe because of it. (Basically we need to raise taxes on the rich and corporations, as well as cut spending. That's the only way we will be able to get out of this mess.)

[San Lumen]

we shouldn't raise the debt ceiling and ought to stop borrowing money only use tax revenue to pay for stuff. If we don't have the money we don't get to have it which is how any responsible company or individual runs their finances

Countries are not companies.

and? Why bother having income tax and just borrow every penny since we never have to pay it back?

[Shrillland]

Countries are not companies.

and? Why bother having income tax and just borrow every penny since we never have to pay it back?

My good Lumen, that isn't how it works for nations and you know that. Do you really want us to bust the debt ceiling and make 2008 look mild by comparison? Total economic collapse is the last thing we need right now.

[San Lumen]

and? Why bother having income tax and just borrow every penny since we never have to pay it back?

My good Lumen, that isn't how it works for nations and you know that. Do you really want us to bust the debt ceiling and make 2008 look mild by comparison? Total economic collapse is the last thing we need right now.

How would there be total economic collapse merely because we didnt raise the debt limit?

[Shrillland]

My good Lumen, that isn't how it works for nations and you know that. Do you really want us to bust the debt ceiling and make 2008 look mild by comparison? Total economic collapse is the last thing we need right now.

How would there be total economic collapse merely because we didnt raise the debt limit?

Because we will have defaulted on all of our debts, the nation will have gone bankrupt. Since we couldn't pay for anything beyond the limit, we would have to make severe cuts and print outrageous amounts of money to pay off what debts we have, which would lead to mass unemployment, the destruction of the safety net, and Weimar levels of hyperinflation.

[Shrillland]

Because we will have defaulted on all of our debts, the nation will have gone bankrupt. Since we couldn't pay for anything beyond the limit, we would have to make severe cuts and print outrageous amounts of money to pay off what debts we have, which would lead to mass unemployment, the destruction of the safety net, and Weimar levels of hyperinflation.

What about adjusting wages to inflation?

We wouldn't be able to do it fast enough. The dollar would lose as much as 15-20% of its value each week.

Late 1919: 16Dm= US$1
Early 1922: 460Dm = US$1
Late 1922: 7600Dm = US$1
Early 1923: 16.8 billion Dm= US$1

Meanwhile, what savings people already had would suddenly become worthless. We would have to explain to our creditors that we couldn't pay them right away otherwise th inflation would get so bad we would have to set up a new dollar to replace the old one.