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What is your favoured form of brexit?

Mays deal
28
5%
EFTA
36
6%
Some other sort of deal (please elaborate in the comments)
24
4%
Mays deal without Irish backstop
9
2%
No deal
132
23%
No deal+ (no deal minus NI and Scotland)
20
4%
I want a second referendum
208
37%
Revoke article 50 without even calling a referendum
105
19%
 
Total votes : 562

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Ostroeuropa
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:07 am

LAB: 29% (+3) CON: 23% (-1) BREX: 20% (-) LDEM: 19% (-) GRN: 3% (-2) via @Survation, 10 - 11 Jul

https://media.giphy.com/media/xUA7baC8z ... /giphy.gif
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:07 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:LAB: 29% (+3) CON: 23% (-1) BREX: 20% (-) LDEM: 19% (-) GRN: 3% (-2) via @Survation, 10 - 11 Jul

https://media.giphy.com/media/xUA7baC8z ... /giphy.gif

Tit slaps for the proletariat!
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:09 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:LAB: 29% (+3) CON: 23% (-1) BREX: 20% (-) LDEM: 19% (-) GRN: 3% (-2) via @Survation, 10 - 11 Jul

https://media.giphy.com/media/xUA7baC8z ... /giphy.gif

Has the Tories ever been this low? <.<
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:11 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:LAB: 29% (+3) CON: 23% (-1) BREX: 20% (-) LDEM: 19% (-) GRN: 3% (-2) via @Survation, 10 - 11 Jul

https://media.giphy.com/media/xUA7baC8z ... /giphy.gif

Tit slaps for the proletariat!


Yes.

electoral calculus:
LAB 296
CON 164
LD 65
BRX 65
GRN 1

flavible:
LAB 299
CON 184
LD 80
BRX 12
GRN 1


One more big push and we're there mateys. It's SOCIALISM TIME! *Corbyn bursts through the door wielding the belt of the proletariat while the borgeousie scream no daddy Corbyn no*


Reminder we're in peak media bias against Labour and their relentless assault against them, and there are extra rules and safeguards during election season to push us over the top. Not to mention Boris and his inevitable failure to actually deliver on his promises.
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:13 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:LAB: 29% (+3) CON: 23% (-1) BREX: 20% (-) LDEM: 19% (-) GRN: 3% (-2) via @Survation, 10 - 11 Jul

https://media.giphy.com/media/xUA7baC8z ... /giphy.gif

These percentages in a poll would cause panic in a party under proportional allocation rules. <.>
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:16 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:LAB: 29% (+3) CON: 23% (-1) BREX: 20% (-) LDEM: 19% (-) GRN: 3% (-2) via @Survation, 10 - 11 Jul

https://media.giphy.com/media/xUA7baC8z ... /giphy.gif

These percentages in a poll would cause panic in a party under proportional allocation rules. <.>


Under PR it would likely be a Labour-Liberal-Green alliance, with SNP and Plaid along for the ride.

Either that or the Liberals go full traitor and join Tory-BXP and shove out an "I'm sorry" video.
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:18 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:These percentages in a poll would cause panic in a party under proportional allocation rules. <.>


Under PR it would likely be a Labour-Liberal-Green alliance, with SNP and Plaid along for the ride.

Either that or the Liberals go full traitor and join Tory-BXP and shove out an "I'm sorry" video.

Widespread revolution in this trainwreck of a country when.
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Postby Earthbound Immortal Squad » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:20 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Who's gonna vote for Boris though? I thought everybody hated him.


Anyone conservative member who doesn't like Jeremy Hunt. Which is quite a lot of people.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:21 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:Either that or the Liberals go full traitor and join Tory-BXP and shove out an "I'm sorry" video.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:23 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Under PR it would likely be a Labour-Liberal-Green alliance, with SNP and Plaid along for the ride.

Either that or the Liberals go full traitor and join Tory-BXP and shove out an "I'm sorry" video.

Widespread revolution in this trainwreck of a country when.

I have an idea:
We revive Lee Kwan Yew and appoint him Lord Protector of rUK with dictatorial powers.
All unemployed knife-carrying individuals including Stephen Christopher Yaxley gets two choices: Army, or North Sea Oilrig with no way out. <.>
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:23 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:Either that or the Liberals go full traitor and join Tory-BXP and shove out an "I'm sorry" video.

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This, but also Nick Clegg did exactly this when he just straight up fucked over most Liberal voters and it got remixed.
Ostro.MOV

There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:27 am

Ostroeuropa wrote: One more big push and we're there mateys. It's SOCIALISM TIME!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROKXlvYMKQc
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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:30 am

If the libs did that they would honestly deserve to die as a party. Hopefully they learnt their lesson from the coalition.
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Postby Souseiseki » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:36 am

i am annoyed that corbyn's brexit stance means i am no longer as supportive of him as i once was

hopefully the membership will pull their heads out of their asses then force him into going along with something sensible
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Postby Liriena » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:38 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Tit slaps for the proletariat!


Yes.

electoral calculus:
LAB 296
CON 164
LD 65
BRX 65
GRN 1

flavible:
LAB 299
CON 184
LD 80
BRX 12
GRN 1


One more big push and we're there mateys. It's SOCIALISM TIME! *Corbyn bursts through the door wielding the belt of the proletariat while the borgeousie scream no daddy Corbyn no*


Reminder we're in peak media bias against Labour and their relentless assault against them, and there are extra rules and safeguards during election season to push us over the top. Not to mention Boris and his inevitable failure to actually deliver on his promises.

And Corbyn is a fantastic campaigner. Unless something stupid and disastrous happens, it's definitely looking like we've got a Labour government in our sights. John McDonnell's going to be Chancellor and I can't wait.
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Postby Cupofchar » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:40 am

Jeremy Hunt just had his 'emperor's new clothes' moment under Andrew Marr's scrutiny-oops, busted.

The Bluster of Boris just got staunched by an admonishment by Mr. Marr. Scolded like a schoolkid - for reeling out his well rehearsed routines.

The thing about Boris though he can talk for hours pulling in anecdotes about Pliny or some such thing like the Nazis rolled into Poland -relentless.

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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:52 am

I think Boris is floundering a bit with Andrew Neil.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politi ... of-gatt-24
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:57 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Some gobshite: "One of the best things I've seen recently is the idea that you don't go to Brussels but you go instead to Dublin, and you literally do a deal with the Irish, whether you bribe them or threaten them, one way or the other, to get them in a position where they're the ones who drop the opposition to the backstop and that enables the Europeans to do so."

*checks notes*

Sorry, that's not "some gobshite", that's Alan Mendoza, founder of conservative think tank The Henry Jackson Society, a doctor of history, and patent gobshite.

So it's less "think" and more "tank"...

The tank thinkers.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:59 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I have an idea:
We revive Lee Kwan Yew and appoint him Lord Protector of rUK with dictatorial powers.
All unemployed knife-carrying individuals including Stephen Christopher Yaxley gets two choices: Army, or a savage whipping and then North Sea Oilrig with no way out. <.>

Who's in on this?
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Postby Zurkerx » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:59 am

Theresa May takes aim at Boris Johnson, warning he’ll be powerless as PM and won’t get new Brexit deal

Well, I honestly don't expect much of a Brexit deal anyway. Even if there is one, it's going to be a terrible one that's bound to ripple through Britain's Economy, the rest of Europe, and possibly the global economy.
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Postby Cupofchar » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:01 pm

seems laxical is a word Boris

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Boris by a slight edge over Jeremy - But the winner by a technical ko- Mr Marr- maybe he should do the negotiating?

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Postby Liriena » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:02 pm


Tories cannibalizing their own party as a blood sacrifice to the Brexit gods.
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Postby Platypus Bureaucracy » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:04 pm

So when I woke up in hospital after a six day blackout, one of the first questions they asked me was who the Prime Minister was.

I thought that was not very funny.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:06 pm

Police have launched a criminal investigation into the Darroch leak. Someone will be shitting themselves.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:14 pm

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