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Postby Tornado Queendom » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:23 pm

Heloin wrote:
Tornado Queendom wrote:We should take up what's left of it, and try to preserve that. It'll be like the ruins of ancient history, which I'd call the "Ruins of the Fuhrer Bunker".

What remains of it are a few decrepit concrete corridors. There's nothing else left of it.

We can take the corridors up, and call that the bunker.
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Postby Duhon » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:26 pm

Tornado Queendom wrote:
Heloin wrote:What remains of it are a few decrepit concrete corridors. There's nothing else left of it.

We can take the corridors up, and call that the bunker.


Or Germany can destroy it completely.

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Postby Heloin » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:26 pm

Tornado Queendom wrote:
Heloin wrote:What remains of it are a few decrepit concrete corridors. There's nothing else left of it.

We can take the corridors up, and call that the bunker.

Why though? It's a a bunch of concrete, just let it sit in the ground forever.

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Postby Duhon » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:29 pm

Heloin wrote:
Tornado Queendom wrote:We can take the corridors up, and call that the bunker.

Why though? It's a a bunch of concrete, just let it sit in the ground forever.


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Postby Tornado Queendom » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:32 pm

Duhon wrote:
Tornado Queendom wrote:We can take the corridors up, and call that the bunker.


Or Germany can destroy it completely.

HELL NO! What if WWE destroyed the Owen Hart fall just because it's bad? It's actually ILLEGAL to destroy the Owen Hart Incident! It clearly says "Do not Play, Copy, or Destroy."

Destroying what's left of the bunker is likely to be like that too. In fact, Nazi artifacts should say "Do not Enter, Rebuild, or Demolish." It'll be cheaper in the long run that way. The bunker's remains can be like that.
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Tornado Queendom wrote:We can take the corridors up, and call that the bunker.

Why though? It's a a bunch of concrete, just let it sit in the ground forever.

It's not just any bunch of concrete, though. It's a historically significant bunch of concrete, which can be useful for historical purposes. What if someone destroyed a development kit just because "it's a bunch of empty data?!" Oh wait, someone already did that.
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Postby Heloin » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:36 pm

Tornado Queendom wrote:
Duhon wrote:
Or Germany can destroy it completely.

HELL NO! What if WWE destroyed the Owen Hart fall just because it's bad? It's actually ILLEGAL to destroy the Owen Hart Incident! It clearly says "Do not Play, Copy, or Destroy."

Destroying what's left of the bunker is likely to be like that too. In fact, Nazi artifacts should say "Do not Enter, Rebuild, or Demolish." It'll be cheaper in the long run that way. The bunker's remains can be like that.
Heloin wrote:Why though? It's a a bunch of concrete, just let it sit in the ground forever.

It's not just any bunch of concrete, though. It's a historically significant bunch of concrete, which can be useful for historical purposes. What if someone destroyed a development kit just because "it's a bunch of empty data?!" Oh wait, someone already did that.

You're not helping you're case by comparing a useless bunch of concrete things that aren't very important.

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Postby Vassenor » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:37 pm

Duhon wrote:
Tornado Queendom wrote:We can take the corridors up, and call that the bunker.


Or Germany can destroy it completely.


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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:38 pm

Tornado Queendom wrote:Destroying what's left of the bunker is likely to be like that too. In fact, Nazi artifacts should say "Do not Enter, Rebuild, or Demolish." It'll be cheaper in the long run that way. The bunker's remains can be like that.

So it remains a car park? That's fine.

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Heloin wrote:Why though? It's a a bunch of concrete, just let it sit in the ground forever.

It's not just any bunch of concrete, though. It's a historically significant bunch of concrete, which can be useful for historical purposes.

The Palast der Republik was levelled in 2006, so I don't think Berlin really gives a damn when it comes to concrete structures that have historical significance.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:26 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Tornado Queendom wrote:Destroying what's left of the bunker is likely to be like that too. In fact, Nazi artifacts should say "Do not Enter, Rebuild, or Demolish." It'll be cheaper in the long run that way. The bunker's remains can be like that.

So it remains a car park? That's fine.

Tornado Queendom wrote:
It's not just any bunch of concrete, though. It's a historically significant bunch of concrete, which can be useful for historical purposes.

The Palast der Republik was levelled in 2006, so I don't think Berlin really gives a damn when it comes to concrete structures that have historical significance.


We even destroyed a world famous wall 8)
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Postby Heloin » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:31 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:So it remains a car park? That's fine.


The Palast der Republik was levelled in 2006, so I don't think Berlin really gives a damn when it comes to concrete structures that have historical significance.


We even destroyed a world famous wall 8)

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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:32 pm

As nice as it would be for history enthusiasts, it'd probably become a holy site for Neo-Nazis and other nutters.
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Postby Katganistan » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:32 pm

Bonenburg wrote:2 years ago i was in Berlin, it was too bad i could not visit the bunker of Hitler.
I think it's a missed opportunity from the city of Berlin.

The führer bunker was the bunker were Adolf Hitler spent the last days of his life.

I think the führer bunker should become a musuem open for visitors. It is an important part of the German history and many tourists would want to visit such a place.

Link for background information : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BChrerbunker

Too many people would be in there masturbating because they thought he was a great leader with a great idea.

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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:36 pm

Heloin wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
We even destroyed a world famous wall 8)

We are the Berlin Wall Preservation Society
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How can you make a poem about the GDR and not mention Honecker? >:(

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The New California Republic wrote:The Palast der Republik was levelled in 2006, so I don't think Berlin really gives a damn when it comes to concrete structures that have historical significance.


We even destroyed a world famous wall 8)

See? Another case in point!

:p

Katganistan wrote:Too many people would be in there masturbating because they thought he was a great leader with a great idea.

Ooft Kat. :?
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Postby Highever » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:41 pm

Isnt the damn thing buried under a parking lot now?
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Postby Saiwania » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:41 pm

The New California Republic wrote:And also pointless, since you may as well build an actual mansion, as the underground element serves no purpose whatsoever.


Being underground will protect the place from most bombs and artillery, and anything nuclear if its constructed well enough. Instead of underground, a very fortified place can be built into a mountain instead like NORAD is said to be, but the geography has to be favorable for that and its more difficult.
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Postby Katganistan » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:42 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Too many people would be in there masturbating because they thought he was a great leader with a great idea.

Ooft Kat. :?


Physically or metaphorically. I'm not wrong, and you know it.
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Postby Vetalia » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:44 pm

The New California Republic wrote:How can you make a poem about the GDR and not mention Honecker? >:(


Or Egon Krenz!?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:46 pm

Cant you look down into the bunker? Also im near certain most of its gone at this stage. Would probably generate some revenue but i dont think it can be done with the state its in, but ive never been so could be wrong.
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Postby Heloin » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:53 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Heloin wrote:We are the Berlin Wall Preservation Society
God save Wilhelm Pieck, the Warsaw Pact and the Stasi
We are the Walter Ulbricht Appreciation Society
God save Volksarmee and all the different varieties

Preserving the nation from being abused
Protecting the new ways, for me and for you
What more can we do?

How can you make a poem about the GDR and not mention Honecker? >:(

*sigh*

We are the Berlin Wall Preservation Society
God save Wilhelm Pieck, the Warsaw Pact and the Stasi
We are the Walter Ulbricht Appreciation Society
God save Volksarmee and all the different varieties

Preserving the nation from being abused
Protecting the new ways, for me and for you
What more can we do?

We are the Honecker Preservation Society
God save Mrs. Ulbricht and good old Mother Kähler
We are the Pfannkuchen Appreciation Consortium
God save the Friendship Star, and all those who were awarded them

Ooh ooh ooh
Ooh ooh ooh
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God save Ernst Busch, Fühmann and the Puhdys
We are the Bourgeois Persecution Affinity
God save little shops, the KPD, and the Volksarmee
We are the NATO Condemnation Affiliates
God save public houses, Volkspolizei, and Krenz

Preserving the nation from being abused
Protecting the new ways, for me and for you
What more can we do?

We are the Berlin Wall Preservation Society
God save Wilhelm Pieck, the Warsaw Pact and the Stasi
We are the Walter Ulbricht Appreciation Society
God save Volksarmee and all the different varieties

We are the Berlin Wall Preservation Society
God save Wilhelm Pieck, the Warsaw Pact and the Stasi
We are the Walter Ulbricht Appreciation Society
God save Volksarmee and all the different varieties

God save the Berlin Wall
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Postby Luziyca » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:55 pm

I mean, there really isn't a whole lot of it left, so it'd be a pointless endeavor to try and restore it just for the sake of some potential tourists who would most likely be douchebags there that would make Berlin less attractive.

They should rather put in the effort that could be spent on reopening the Führerbunker into actually opening that new airport for realsies this time.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:57 pm

Saiwania wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:And also pointless, since you may as well build an actual mansion, as the underground element serves no purpose whatsoever.

Being underground will protect the place from most bombs and artillery, and anything nuclear if its constructed well enough.

The Cold War is over.

Saiwania wrote:Instead of underground, a very fortified place can be built into a mountain instead like NORAD is said to be, but the geography has to be favorable for that and its more difficult.

Again there is no need for it.

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Physically or metaphorically. I'm not wrong, and you know it.

...yeah you are right. They'd need to put up "no fapping" signs everywhere. Or "kein wichsen" as the German parts of the sign would say...

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Or Egon Krenz!?

To be fair Krenz was a bit flash-in-the-pan, barely having time to arrange his new office to his liking before he was ousted.

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Cant you look down into the bunker? Also im near certain most of its gone at this stage. Would probably generate some revenue but i dont think it can be done with the state its in, but ive never been so could be wrong.

Nah it's a car park.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:03 pm

Heloin wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:How can you make a poem about the GDR and not mention Honecker? >:(

*sigh*

We are the Berlin Wall Preservation Society
God save Wilhelm Pieck, the Warsaw Pact and the Stasi
We are the Walter Ulbricht Appreciation Society
God save Volksarmee and all the different varieties

Preserving the nation from being abused
Protecting the new ways, for me and for you
What more can we do?

We are the Honecker Preservation Society
God save Mrs. Ulbricht and good old Mother Kähler
We are the Pfannkuchen Appreciation Consortium
God save the Friendship Star, and all those who were awarded them

Ooh ooh ooh
Ooh ooh ooh
We are the Bertolt Brecht German-speaking Vernacular
God save Ernst Busch, Fühmann and the Puhdys
We are the Bourgeois Persecution Affinity
God save little shops, the KPD, and the Volksarmee
We are the NATO Condemnation Affiliates
God save public houses, Volkspolizei, and Krenz

Preserving the nation from being abused
Protecting the new ways, for me and for you
What more can we do?

We are the Berlin Wall Preservation Society
God save Wilhelm Pieck, the Warsaw Pact and the Stasi
We are the Walter Ulbricht Appreciation Society
God save Volksarmee and all the different varieties

We are the Berlin Wall Preservation Society
God save Wilhelm Pieck, the Warsaw Pact and the Stasi
We are the Walter Ulbricht Appreciation Society
God save Volksarmee and all the different varieties

God save the Berlin Wall

Much better. :)
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Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Heloin » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:11 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Heloin wrote:*sigh*

-snip-

Much better. :)

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Postby Vetalia » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:17 pm

The New California Republic wrote:To be fair Krenz was a bit flash-in-the-pan, barely having time to arrange his new office to his liking before he was ousted.


Yeah, but he was also one of the Ghostbusters so that balances things out.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:25 pm

Vetalia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:To be fair Krenz was a bit flash-in-the-pan, barely having time to arrange his new office to his liking before he was ousted.


Yeah, but he was also one of the Ghostbusters so that balances things out.

A real tragedy. He could bust ghosts but he couldn't bust the crippling financial mess of the GDR...

:p
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White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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