California Offers Healthcare Benefits To Illegal Immigrants

[The Emerald Legion]

I mean, the same could be said if there weren't an underclass of non-citizens hanging around at all.

There's a bit of a difference between a humane and applicable policy of, y'know, not being a dick to people already living among you and contributing to your society... and not-so-subtly fantasizing about ethnic cleansing because they're an "underclass of non-citizens".

In addition, there would be less drive to stop proper immigration if the Welfare system was eliminated.

"Starving all poor people to own the aliens" is a nuclear hot take, I'll give you that.

Funny how you assume I meant Ethnic cleansing given there are many ways to rid ourselves of an underclass of Non-Citizens.

[New Lindale]

What the hell, now California is going to be a destination for Health Tourism! Actually, not even that since they're enouraging people to stay

Do you realise if you are a citizen in California, that know you are made less of a priority than someone who just decided to cross the border? What about our aging population, Social Security is basically bankrupt, and now we're making the problem worse?

[Nakena]

@NewLindale

You messed up that quoting or post I think.

[Necroghastia]

There's a bit of a difference between a humane and applicable policy of, y'know, not being a dick to people already living among you and contributing to your society... and not-so-subtly fantasizing about ethnic cleansing because they're an "underclass of non-citizens".


"Starving all poor people to own the aliens" is a nuclear hot take, I'll give you that.

Funny how you assume I meant Ethnic cleansing given there are many ways to rid ourselves of an underclass of Non-Citizens.

what the fuck is an "underclass"

[The Emerald Legion]

Funny how you assume I meant Ethnic cleansing given there are many ways to rid ourselves of an underclass of Non-Citizens.

what the fuck is an "underclass"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underclass

[Telconi]

Yeah, it's gonna be fun seeing the Republicans in the Bible belt milk some outrage points from California politics during the 2020 campaign. The Facebook boomer memery is gonna be so cringe.

Tbh it's probably gonna work amongst at least some people. I don't have any stats to back it up but pretty much everyone I've talked to except the most extreme of progressives have agreed that the whole "we should give illegals healthcare" line in the debate was a really bad move, and the Dems putting into action is just more fodder for the GOP to use in swing states.

"Vote R or end up like California" is a pretty compelling argument in swing states. And it's only made worse by the fact that prominent Democrats actively hold up California as the party vanguard.

[Liriena]

There's a bit of a difference between a humane and applicable policy of, y'know, not being a dick to people already living among you and contributing to your society... and not-so-subtly fantasizing about ethnic cleansing because they're an "underclass of non-citizens".


"Starving all poor people to own the aliens" is a nuclear hot take, I'll give you that.

Funny how you assume I meant Ethnic cleansing given there are many ways to rid ourselves of an underclass of Non-Citizens.

Man, your wording is not helping your point at all.

[Telconi]

Funny how you assume I meant Ethnic cleansing given there are many ways to rid ourselves of an underclass of Non-Citizens.

Man, your wording is not helping your point at all.

Most people don't actively try to misunderstand others to justify pre-existing hatred tho.

[The Emerald Legion]

Funny how you assume I meant Ethnic cleansing given there are many ways to rid ourselves of an underclass of Non-Citizens.

Man, your wording is not helping your point at all.

It's not meant to. It's meant to point out your assumptions.

The easiest and obvious solution is to make them citizens. Bam. No more underclass. For a time anyway, but then you need to prevent more from following to fill the hole.

[Azlaake]

They're undocumented immigrants, but that doesn't mean they aren't human, I applaud California for this................ "Illegal" Immigration shouldn't be a crime

So you want to come anyone into the United States as they please?

Yes

[Paddy O Fernature]

You would think California would do something about the homelessness epidemic of Americans literally littering it's streets, before deciding that it would be a good idea to take on the finical burden of offering healthcare to illegal aliens as well. I wonder how much the CA tax is going to rise up because of this in the future?

So you want to come anyone into the United States as they please?

Yes

*Ahem*

Fuck that. Legal Immigration exists for a reason. The US isn't the worlds safety net and we cannot and should no be forced to take in everyone's poor just because their country sucks.

[Nakena]

So you want to come anyone into the United States as they please?

Yes

Do you sincerely believe this is a wise idea and would work out in reality, and if so, please enlighten us and tell us how this would not be ending in a total clusterfuck.

[Kowani]

Tbh it's probably gonna work amongst at least some people. I don't have any stats to back it up but pretty much everyone I've talked to except the most extreme of progressives have agreed that the whole "we should give illegals healthcare" line in the debate was a really bad move, and the Dems putting into action is just more fodder for the GOP to use in swing states.

"Vote R or end up like California" is a pretty compelling argument in swing states. And it's only made worse by the fact that prominent Democrats actively hold up California as the party vanguard.

Considering that CA beats almost all the red states in almost every category, that’s an argument you can only make to two kinds of people. The uneducated and gun lovers.

[Telconi]

"Vote R or end up like California" is a pretty compelling argument in swing states. And it's only made worse by the fact that prominent Democrats actively hold up California as the party vanguard.

Considering that CA beats almost all the red states in almost every category, that’s an argument you can only make to two kinds of people. The uneducated and gun lovers.

"Almost every category"

What categories are those?

[Washington Resistance Army]

"Vote R or end up like California" is a pretty compelling argument in swing states. And it's only made worse by the fact that prominent Democrats actively hold up California as the party vanguard.

Considering that CA beats almost all the red states in almost every category, that’s an argument you can only make to two kinds of people. The uneducated and gun lovers.

idk man we don't have a "human shit in the streets" problem

[Liriena]

You would think California would do something about the homelessness epidemic of Americans literally littering it's streets

You don't care about that.

Man, your wording is not helping your point at all.

It's not meant to. It's meant to point out your assumptions.

The easiest and obvious solution is to make them citizens. Bam. No more underclass.

I dig it.

For a time anyway, but then you need to prevent more from following to fill the hole.

Oh, that one is easy: you need a new socialist world order that enables the global south to become economically independent and liberates it from the scourge of neo-colonialism.

[Nakena]

Considering that CA beats almost all the red states in almost every category, that’s an argument you can only make to two kinds of people. The uneducated and gun lovers.

"Almost every category"

What categories are those?

According to some (far-right) narratives that would be California being a hive of rampant homosexuality and degeneracy controlled by jewish Hollywood interests.

[Telconi]

You would think California would do something about the homelessness epidemic of Americans literally littering it's streets

You don't care about that.

It's not meant to. It's meant to point out your assumptions.

The easiest and obvious solution is to make them citizens. Bam. No more underclass.

I dig it.

For a time anyway, but then you need to prevent more from following to fill the hole.

Oh, that one is easy: you need a new socialist world order that enables the global south to become economically independent and liberates it from the scourge of neo-colonialism.

Ironic...

[Paddy O Fernature]

You would think California would do something about the homelessness epidemic of Americans literally littering it's streets

You don't care about that.

Please, keep telling me what I do and don't care about, as clearly you know more about that subject then I do. Fucking lol.

[Vassenor]

What the hell, now California is going to be a destination for Health Tourism! Actually, not even that since they're enouraging people to stay

Do you realise if you are a citizen in California, that know you are made less of a priority than someone who just decided to cross the border? What about our aging population, Social Security is basically bankrupt, and now we're making the problem worse?

You do realise that Healthcare Tourism isn't actually a thing, right?

No matter how much the right uses it to demonise their usual scapegoat groups.

[Liriena]

You don't care about that.

Please, keep telling me what I do and don't care about, as clearly you know more about that subject then I do. Fucking lol.

It's a blatant whataboutism. When was the last time you advocated in favour of policy to help the homeless in its own right, rather than as a counter to another policy?

[Liriena]

You don't care about that.


I dig it.


Oh, that one is easy: you need a new socialist world order that enables the global south to become economically independent and liberates it from the scourge of neo-colonialism.

Ironic...

Thank you for your comment. Very helpful.

[Kowani]

Considering that CA beats almost all the red states in almost every category, that’s an argument you can only make to two kinds of people. The uneducated and gun lovers.

"Almost every category"

What categories are those?

Education, economics in general, technology, public transportation, life expectancy…

Considering that CA beats almost all the red states in almost every category, that’s an argument you can only make to two kinds of people. The uneducated and gun lovers.

idk man we don't have a "human shit in the streets" problem

Well, I did say almost.

[Ethel mermania]

You would think California would do something about the homelessness epidemic of Americans literally littering it's streets

You don't care about that.

It's not meant to. It's meant to point out your assumptions.

The easiest and obvious solution is to make them citizens. Bam. No more underclass.

I dig it.

For a time anyway, but then you need to prevent more from following to fill the hole.

Oh, that one is easy: you need a new socialist world order that enables the global south to become economically independent and liberates it from the scourge of neo-colonialism.

The friendship and magic thread is in A&F.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Please, keep telling me what I do and don't care about, as clearly you know more about that subject then I do. Fucking lol.

It's a blatant whataboutism. When was the last time you advocated in favour of policy to help the homeless in its own right, rather than as a counter to another policy?

Yeah, no it isn't and you know it.

Also, pretty sure that I've been a long time advocate for how California fucks it's own people over in regards to dealing with it's homelessness epidemic. Not that you actually give a shit or anything.