UK Politics Thread IX: The Masses Against the Classes

[Salandriagado]

People who gets elected to any parliament and then decide to stand there and disrespect the institution should instead of receiving a salary be charged exorbitantly for the priviledge of being a cunt in public.

People get paid? Here in the US outside of the federal offices members of the legislature rarely if ever get paid

Which is a pretty massive problem with your democracy, honestly.

[Chan Island]

People who gets elected to any parliament and then decide to stand there and disrespect the institution should instead of receiving a salary be charged exorbitantly for the priviledge of being a cunt in public.

People get paid? Here in the US outside of the federal offices members of the legislature rarely if ever get paid

So basically what you're saying is that you get paid the exact same amount, say, legislating the laws of your county or state as we might do volunteering once a week at Oxfam?

And then people wonder why politics at the state or local level is often broken as hell.

[Ifreann]

People get paid? Here in the US outside of the federal offices members of the legislature rarely if ever get paid

So basically what you're saying is that you get paid the exact same amount, say, legislating the laws of your county or state as we might do volunteering once a week at Oxfam?

And then people wonder why politics at the state or local level is often broken as hell.

America is very opposed to motivating people with money. That would be communism. In the capitalist USA, people work for the benefit of all, not to enrich themselves.


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[Philjia]

People who gets elected to any parliament and then decide to stand there and disrespect the institution should instead of receiving a salary be charged exorbitantly for the priviledge of being a cunt in public.

People get paid? Here in the US outside of the federal offices members of the legislature rarely if ever get paid

Members of parliament and devolved governments get paid as it's full time work (and helps discourage corruption, in theory). Local councillors have their pay set by the council (although it's rarely a formal salary, and more likely to be expenses or an allowance), which is one of the many reasons the way we run local government is fucking stupid.

[The Blaatschapen]

What's everyone doing for the Fourth of July?

I wasn't planning on celebrating the anniversary of Alice in Wonderland, personally.

Pity.

I heard she has cake.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

People get paid? Here in the US outside of the federal offices members of the legislature rarely if ever get paid

So basically what you're saying is that you get paid the exact same amount, say, legislating the laws of your county or state as we might do volunteering once a week at Oxfam?

And then people wonder why politics at the state or local level is often broken as hell.

We have a similar stupid, it's called the magistrates courts.

[Chan Island]

So basically what you're saying is that you get paid the exact same amount, say, legislating the laws of your county or state as we might do volunteering once a week at Oxfam?

And then people wonder why politics at the state or local level is often broken as hell.

We have a similar stupid, it's called the magistrates courts.

Yup. Signing up for actually.

At least that role does come with some mandatory legal training and it's only 13 days (or, if you choose, 26 half-days) of doing it per year.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

We have a similar stupid, it's called the magistrates courts.

Yup. Signing up for actually.

At least that role does come with some mandatory legal training and it's only 13 days (or, if you choose, 26 half-days) of doing it per year.

Already sent off my application!

I've heard some pretty bad criticism about the legal training that you're given. To put it in context with how bad it is though, I've done a 3-year law degree, which included a semester including criminal law and another with the law of evidence. That doesn't entitle me to be a barrister or a solicitor, never mind a judge; for this you've an extra year of legal practise course or bar qualification. To be a judge expect years more gaining experience before you can even be considered.

Yet we allow people with a few days legal training to make legal decisions (different from the factual decisions made by a jury) that can lead to someone being in prison for months. It's perhaps the worst system in existance in a country that actually respects the rule of law.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

So basically what you're saying is that you get paid the exact same amount, say, legislating the laws of your county or state as we might do volunteering once a week at Oxfam?

And then people wonder why politics at the state or local level is often broken as hell.

We have a similar stupid, it's called the magistrates courts.

Are those courts for criminal or civil matters?

[Vassenor]

We have a similar stupid, it's called the magistrates courts.

Are those courts for criminal or civil matters?

Pretty much every criminal case starts in a Magistrate's Court. Depending on the severity they will either hear the case in full, or decide their sentencing powers are insufficient and send it off to be heard in the actual Crown Court.

[Cerinda]

Meanwhile Jeremey Hunt proves that he is still a massive cunt by using the victims of Auschwitz as an excuse to smear Corbyn

[The Huskar Social Union]

Meanwhile Jeremey Hunt proves that he is still a massive cunt by using the victims of Auschwitz as an excuse to smear Corbyn

What a cockwomble.

[Caracasus]

Meanwhile Jeremey Hunt proves that he is still a massive cunt by using the victims of Auschwitz as an excuse to smear Corbyn

Imagine visiting Auschwitz and thinking 'I can use this to score cheap political points.'

[Vassenor]

Meanwhile Jeremey Hunt proves that he is still a massive cunt by using the victims of Auschwitz as an excuse to smear Corbyn

Imagine visiting Auschwitz and thinking 'I can use this to score cheap political points.'

Pretty much par for the course for a conservative MP.

[Salandriagado]

Are those courts for criminal or civil matters?

Pretty much every criminal case starts in a Magistrate's Court. Depending on the severity they will either hear the case in full, or decide their sentencing powers are insufficient and send it off to be heard in the actual Crown Court.

There are some fairly heavy restrictions there, though: most really minor stuff they can't send off to the Crown Court, and anything really serious they basically just consider bail and indict.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Meanwhile Jeremey Hunt proves that he is still a massive cunt by using the victims of Auschwitz as an excuse to smear Corbyn

Imagine visiting Auschwitz and thinking 'I can use this to score cheap political points.'

I hear he plans to appoint Logan Paul as his communications adviser.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Meanwhile Jeremey Hunt proves that he is still a massive cunt by using the victims of Auschwitz as an excuse to smear Corbyn

How much evidence is there pointing to the fact that Corbyn is anti-semetic? I hear it as an anti-Corbyn talking point, but I've never seen the evidence for it.

[Cerinda]

Meanwhile Jeremey Hunt proves that he is still a massive cunt by using the victims of Auschwitz as an excuse to smear Corbyn

How much evidence is there pointing to the fact that Corbyn is anti-semetic? I hear it as an anti-Corbyn talking point, but I've never seen the evidence for it.

The only evidence they've got is that Corbyn is a critic of Israel and he met with Hamas and Hezbollah, of course they purposely ignore the fact that the only reason he met with them is so he can negotiate a peace deal, it's the same reason he met with the IRA.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Pretty much every criminal case starts in a Magistrate's Court. Depending on the severity they will either hear the case in full, or decide their sentencing powers are insufficient and send it off to be heard in the actual Crown Court.

There are some fairly heavy restrictions there, though: most really minor stuff they can't send off to the Crown Court, and anything really serious they basically just consider bail and indict.

That's kind of right. It must be pointed out however that there's a government push to put more of those cases which can be either way (more serious assaults, etc) into the magistrates courts as they're cheaper.

[The New California Republic]

Meanwhile Jeremey Hunt proves that he is still a massive cunt by using the victims of Auschwitz as an excuse to smear Corbyn

Imagine visiting Auschwitz and thinking 'I can use this to score cheap political points.'

Perhaps it happened in the human hair exhibit.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Imagine visiting Auschwitz and thinking 'I can use this to score cheap political points.'

Perhaps it happened in the human hair exhibit.

I nearly got kicked out of Auschwitz, true story. The cunt I was with decided to take a photo in the human hair exhibit, despite being told about 30 mins previously 'don't take photos in the human hair exhibit.'

[The New California Republic]

Perhaps it happened in the human hair exhibit.

I nearly got kicked out of Auschwitz, true story. The cunt I was with decided to take a photo in the human hair exhibit, despite being told about 30 mins previously 'don't take photos in the human hair exhibit.'

I followed the rules in there. I occasionally bend the rules on holiday, but if a guide etc explicitly tells me not to do one specific thing then I abide by it.

[The Blaatschapen]

Imagine visiting Auschwitz and thinking 'I can use this to score cheap political points.'

Perhaps it happened in the human hair exhibit.

It's still knot done.

[The New California Republic]

[Caracasus]

Imagine visiting Auschwitz and thinking 'I can use this to score cheap political points.'

Perhaps it happened in the human hair exhibit.

Never been myself (not had the time, when I've had the time, not had the cash usual story) but I'm guessing that particular exhibit is exactly as fucking grim as it sounds.