Is communism behind radical Islam?

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

So let me explain. You might be thinking "Have you gone insane? Is this another topic that's gonna get locked?"
but notice how the Middle East became increasingly unstable in the Cold War? Also note the USSR spent a higher budget on foreign intervention? And they likely gave money to terrorists who still operate against the West right now?

If I'm taking it too far, I'll slow this down. Basically, the USSR and PRC have invested in all out secret and indirect warfare against NATO. This includes terrorism. Terrorism didn't happen much from Muslims before the commies set up puppet governments in Arab and African countries, and religion can rouse extremism. Using Islam as a recruiting method, the Soviets could get several terrorist groups started.

I believe this tactic was first used when the communists realized they were losing to General Reagan and freedom was near. Gorbachev expanded the budget so he could fund radicals who later started al quadi, ISIS, and the Taliban. But the socialists had been encouraging extremism before hand, creating Bathism and sympathetic states. Expoliting poverty, they dumped money on countries that were likely to host terror groups.

What is your opinion? Do you think this is real? Do the ghosts of the Soviet Union still haunt us?

[Onitsha Empire]

So let me explain. You might be thinking "Have you gone insane? Is this another topic that's gonna get locked?"
but notice how the Middle East became increasingly unstable in the Cold War? Also note the USSR spent a higher budget on foreign intervention? And they likely gave money to terrorists who still operate against the West right now?

If I'm taking it too far, I'll slow this down. Basically, the USSR and PRC have invested in all out secret and indirect warfare against NATO. This includes terrorism. Terrorism didn't happen much from Muslims before the commies set up puppet governments in Arab and African countries, and religion can rouse extremism. Using Islam as a recruiting method, the Soviets could get several terrorist groups started.

I believe this tactic was first used when the communists realized they were losing to General Reagan and freedom was near. Gorbachev expanded the budget so he could fund radicals who later started al quadi, ISIS, and the Taliban. But the socialists had been encouraging extremism before hand, creating Bathism and sympathetic states. Expoliting poverty, they dumped money on countries that were likely to host terror groups.

What is your opinion? Do you think this is real? Do the ghosts of the Soviet Union still haunt us?

Communists did not have enough asabiyyah to ignite radical Islam. Instead it is a consequence of both low status and widespread inceldom in the Muslim world.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

No. Capitalism is behind radical Islam. Americans funded the Mujahideen and others to specifically combat Soviet influence in the Middle East. Plain and simple.

[Imbalistan]

To me, I thought it would have been the US, since they did fund the Taliban and Al-Quida to fight the USSR.

They were the ones who ended up nuking my religions reputation.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Another non-serious thread from you. Great.

[Onitsha Empire]

No. Capitalism is behind radical Islam. Americans funded the Mujahideen and others to specifically combat Soviet influence in the Middle East. Plain and simple.

That isn't completely right either. Radical Islam is at most something Anglos supported. It is definitely impossible for Anglos to control. Hence I won't say that capitalism is behind radical Islam.

[Thermodolia]

No. Capitalism is behind radical Islam. Americans funded the Mujahideen and others to specifically combat Soviet influence in the Middle East. Plain and simple.

The dumbest thing we could have done honestly. Reagan should have let Afghanistan remain under soviet rule.

[Onitsha Empire]

To me, I thought it would have been the US, since they did fund the Taliban and Al-Quida to fight the USSR.

They were the ones who ended up nuking my religions reputation.

Uh..I would say it's the decline of social unity outside the Muslim world that causes the Muslim world to look really unusual.

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

No. Capitalism is behind radical Islam. Americans funded the Mujahideen and others to specifically combat Soviet influence in the Middle East. Plain and simple.

To be fair, Bush and Obama could both be innocent or they could be

No. Capitalism is behind radical Islam. Americans funded the Mujahideen and others to specifically combat Soviet influence in the Middle East. Plain and simple.

globalist .
The muhadeen is a one time thing therefore it doesnt count because we killed bin laden.

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

Another non-serious thread from you. Great.

And your morally ambigous because you don't support this.

[Gates of Alexander]

Communism is responsible, tangentially, for the rise of Islam in many places around the world. Insofar as some of those places became more radical than others, I suppose.

When the USSR fell, there was a power and ideological vacuum in much of the then-Third World. Islam was often a natural fit to fill that void. It was historically antagonistic with the West and Christendom, broadly, and so assumed that mantle which had once been taken by Global Communism.

[Thermodolia]

dumbest thing we could have done honestly. Reagan should have let Afghanistan remain under soviet rule.

How about no?

I don't believe in morality by hindsight in foreign policy regards.

Dude we wouldn’t have had to worry about 9/11. 10s of Thousands of Americans would still be living to this day. Some of whom where my friends

[Heloin]

The fall of Babylon caused the rise of radical Islam.

[Siaing]

Another non-serious thread from you. Great.

lol

[Al Mumtahanah]

The Muslim Brotherhood was an opposition to the socialist, pro USSR Egyptian government.

[Imbalistan]

How about no?

I don't believe in morality by hindsight in foreign policy regards.

Dude we wouldn’t have had to worry about 9/11. 10s of Thousands of Americans would still be living to this day. Some of whom where my friends

Yet leaving Afgahnistan to the soviets would have been little better. 10's of thousands of Afghani's flew into Pakistan, and as a Pakastani, they brought 2 major things:

Heroin.
Guns.

And not to mention the US funded the Taliban, so yeah, we single handedly were responsible for our own plunder.

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

To me, I thought it would have been the US, since they did fund the Taliban and Al-Quida to fight the USSR.

They were the ones who ended up nuking my religions reputation.

You can thank us for freedom with a side of prosperity.

No. Capitalism is behind radical Islam. Americans funded the Mujahideen and others to specifically combat Soviet influence in the Middle East. Plain and simple.

The dumbest thing we could have done honestly. Reagan should have let Afghanistan remain under soviet rule.

Better yet: break the deal, expand stockpile, and nuke the Afghanis.

Communism is responsible, tangentially, for the rise of Islam in many places around the world. Insofar as some of those places became more radical than others, I suppose.

When the USSR fell, there was a power and ideological vacuum in much of the then-Third World. Islam was often a natural fit to fill that void. It was historically antagonistic with the West and Christendom, broadly, and so assumed that mantle which had once been taken by Global Communism.

Very good, my apprentice.

How about no?

I don't believe in morality by hindsight in foreign policy regards.

Dude we wouldn’t have had to worry about 9/11. 10s of Thousands of Americans would still be living to this day. Some of whom where my friends

George Bush didnot do 9,11 it's a fact check Google and you will see.

[Thermodolia]

Dude we wouldn’t have had to worry about 9/11. 10s of Thousands of Americans would still be living to this day. Some of whom where my friends

Yet leaving Afgahnistan to the soviets would have been little better. 10's of thousands of Afghani's flew into Pakistan, and as a Pakastani, they brought 2 major things:

Heroin.
Guns.

And not to mention the US funded the Taliban, so yeah, we single handedly were responsible for our own plunder.

I know. Which is why I said we should have just left Afghanistan to the Soviets

[Thermodolia]

Dude we wouldn’t have had to worry about 9/11. 10s of Thousands of Americans would still be living to this day. Some of whom where my friends

George Bush didnot do 9,11 it's a fact check Google and you will see.

I didn’t say that though. I said if we didn’t fund the Mujahideen which eventually became AQ we wouldn’t have had 9/11 to worry about

[Al Mumtahanah]

Dude we wouldn’t have had to worry about 9/11. 10s of Thousands of Americans would still be living to this day. Some of whom where my friends

Yet leaving Afgahnistan to the soviets would have been little better. 10's of thousands of Afghani's flew into Pakistan, and as a Pakastani, they brought 2 major things:

Heroin.
Guns.

And not to mention the US funded the Taliban, so yeah, we single handedly were responsible for our own plunder.

The Taliban stopped 3/4 of the world's heroin trade and cracked down on Afghani pederastry. The United States is permissive toward these things. The mistake was Bush, not Reagan.

[Thermodolia]

Dude we wouldn’t have had to worry about 9/11. 10s of Thousands of Americans would still be living to this day. Some of whom where my friends

I understand how you feel. But millions of Afghans would have died, hundreds of thousands at least.
The USSR wasn't known for their mercy to people who opposed them.

They'd also still have won due to geopolitics and guerillas, so would not have changed much. It'd just have been even harder and much more a underdog victory.

9/11 was a great tragedy, but dooming people to an oppressive regime almost as bad as the Nazis is not the answer, there are other ways to have stopped 9/11.

Millions of Iraqis and Afghans wouldn’t have died either. I never would have had to go to Afghanistan. I never would have had to lose some of my friends.

So ya I see no issues with letting the Soviets bleed themselves out in Afghanistan. We never should have supported the Mujahideen just like we never should have supported the rebels in Syria

The taliban was just as worse if not worse than the Soviets. They brutally murdered millions and rape thousands

[Hurdergaryp]

Dude we wouldn’t have had to worry about 9/11. 10s of Thousands of Americans would still be living to this day. Some of whom where my friends

Yet leaving Afgahnistan to the soviets would have been little better. 10's of thousands of Afghani's flew into Pakistan, and as a Pakastani, they brought 2 major things:

Heroin.
Guns.

And not to mention the US funded the Taliban, so yeah, we single handedly were responsible for our own plunder.

The rise of radical Sunnism/salafism most certainly wasn't a product of the USSR, it was actually encouraged by the Carter and Reagan administrations. Zbigniew Brzezinski was the devious mastermind behind the strategy of merrily supporting fundamentalist mujahideen groups, Osama Bin Laden and his compatriots were even trained by CIA operatives.

[Kowani]

I understand how you feel. But millions of Afghans would have died, hundreds of thousands at least.
The USSR wasn't known for their mercy to people who opposed them.

They'd also still have won due to geopolitics and guerillas, so would not have changed much. It'd just have been even harder and much more a underdog victory.

9/11 was a great tragedy, but dooming people to an oppressive regime almost as bad as the Nazis is not the answer, there are other ways to have stopped 9/11.

Millions of Iraqis and Afghans wouldn’t have died either. I never would have had to go to Afghanistan. I never would have had to lose some of my friends.

So ya I see no issues with letting the Soviets bleed themselves out in Afghanistan. We never should have supported the Mujahideen just like we never should have supported the rebels in Syria

The taliban was just as worse if not worse than the Soviets. They brutally murdered millions and rape thousands

…The Soviets have a higher kill count than the Taliban, mate.

[Thermodolia]

Millions of Iraqis and Afghans wouldn’t have died either. I never would have had to go to Afghanistan. I never would have had to lose some of my friends.

So ya I see no issues with letting the Soviets bleed themselves out in Afghanistan. We never should have supported the Mujahideen just like we never should have supported the rebels in Syria

The taliban was just as worse if not worse than the Soviets. They brutally murdered millions and rape thousands

…The Soviets have a higher kill count than the Taliban, mate.

Overall yes. In Afghanistan? Hardly

Besides I’d rather have a brutal communist regime than a brutal theocratic regime.

[Kowani]

…The Soviets have a higher kill count than the Taliban, mate.

^This.

Also judging in hindsight is flawed methodology.

Not as flawed as it seems you think it is.