by Lancaster of Wessex » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:49 am
by The Sherpa Empire » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:52 am
Lancaster of Wessex wrote:Following your nation's resounding if not unexpected victory in the NCA (National Calvinball Association) Finals, the first championship @@NAME@@ has experienced on a global stage in some time, millions of people descended upon @@CAPITAL@@ to celebrate.
by Lancaster of Wessex » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:57 am
The Sherpa Empire wrote:Lancaster of Wessex wrote:Following your nation's resounding if not unexpected victory in the NCA (National Calvinball Association) Finals, the first championship @@NAME@@ has experienced on a global stage in some time, millions of people descended upon @@CAPITAL@@ to celebrate.
Why is a global competition run by the National Calvinball Association?
by The Sherpa Empire » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:13 pm
by Australian rePublic » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:48 pm
by Australian rePublic » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:58 pm
by Baggieland » Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:36 pm
by Australian rePublic » Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:16 pm
Baggieland wrote:I have no idea who Nathan Phillips is, and there certainly isn't a square named after this person (whoever he is) in my nation. I would change it to @@LEADER@@ square.
Option 2: three people were shot. This would require an 'allows guns' validity, also it's a bit of a stretch that fans of the same team are going around shooting their fellow supporters. Sports violence is usually rival teams having a bit of a punch up, then legging it when the coppers show up!
by The Sherpa Empire » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:02 am
Australian rePublic wrote:The Sherpa Empire wrote:
NBA teams don't represent different nations.
Toronto Raptors...
Besides,
Lots of national sports comps have international teams. The National Rugby League has the Warriors, the National Baskball League has the Breakers,British Super League has the French team(s?)
by Australian rePublic » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:59 am
The Sherpa Empire wrote:Australian rePublic wrote:Toronto Raptors...
Besides,
Lots of national sports comps have international teams. The National Rugby League has the Warriors, the National Baskball League has the Breakers,British Super League has the French team(s?)
Those are still local teams. They do not represent the whole nation where they are located.
If the Toronto Raptors win something, you wouldn't say Canada won. You would say Toronto won.
by Great Nortend » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:47 am
by Lancaster of Wessex » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:19 am
Baggieland wrote:I have no idea who Nathan Phillips is, and there certainly isn't a square named after this person (whoever he is) in my nation. I would change it to @@LEADER@@ square.
Option 2: three people were shot. This would require an 'allows guns' validity, also it's a bit of a stretch that fans of the same team are going around shooting their fellow supporters. Sports violence is usually rival teams having a bit of a punch up, then legging it when the coppers show up!
by Lancaster of Wessex » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:28 am
Krogon wrote:Why have "NCA (National Calvinball Association)"? Just simply have the name of it and not the abbreviation. Also, how does this relate to 1234?
by The Sherpa Empire » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:13 am
Australian rePublic wrote:The Sherpa Empire wrote:
Those are still local teams. They do not represent the whole nation where they are located.
If the Toronto Raptors win something, you wouldn't say Canada won. You would say Toronto won.
Except for the NRL, where the New Zealand Warriors (and the Papua New Guinea too, if they ever got do a team) represent their whole country, and this is a local competition, where Sydney, a single city, has 9 teams, and every represented city has a single team. You say that City X won, not Australia, but yet, you say that NZ won too. And the NBL, Where it's a local comp, each city has a team, but the Breakers represent all of New Zealand. And their just the sports I know about. I'm sure there are others that have one foreign team representing the whole country
by Australian rePublic » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:27 am
The Sherpa Empire wrote:Australian rePublic wrote:Except for the NRL, where the New Zealand Warriors (and the Papua New Guinea too, if they ever got do a team) represent their whole country, and this is a local competition, where Sydney, a single city, has 9 teams, and every represented city has a single team. You say that City X won, not Australia, but yet, you say that NZ won too. And the NBL, Where it's a local comp, each city has a team, but the Breakers represent all of New Zealand. And their just the sports I know about. I'm sure there are others that have one foreign team representing the whole country
It sounds dumb to say your nation won something "national." The examples you gave are the exception not the rule, none of those examples are global competitions, and it's something that only smaller countries would be likely to do. If you have cities like Toronto and Vancouver that are very far from each other, it doesn't make sense that one team could represent both in a "national" sports league.
Wouldn't CHANGING THE DAMN NAME fix this much more efficiently than doing all these mental gymnastics to rationalize it?
by Great Nortend » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:50 am
Australian rePublic wrote:Baggieland wrote:I have no idea who Nathan Phillips is, and there certainly isn't a square named after this person (whoever he is) in my nation. I would change it to @@LEADER@@ square.
Option 2: three people were shot. This would require an 'allows guns' validity, also it's a bit of a stretch that fans of the same team are going around shooting their fellow supporters. Sports violence is usually rival teams having a bit of a punch up, then legging it when the coppers show up!
In a democracy, I don't see why @@LEADER@@ would be important enough to have a place named after him. For example, in the USA, there is no Obama Square, or Trump Towers... okay, there are Trump Towers, but they pre-date the president's political carer.
by Australian rePublic » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:57 am
Great Nortend wrote:Australian rePublic wrote:In a democracy, I don't see why @@LEADER@@ would be important enough to have a place named after him. For example, in the USA, there is no Obama Square, or Trump Towers... okay, there are Trump Towers, but they pre-date the president's political carer.
Her Majesty has quite a few places named after her! But that's obviously different. The @@ANIMAL@@ square thing works, although I would probably omit it. It doesn't add much and the issue seems fairly long already.
by Chan Island » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:08 am
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by The Sherpa Empire » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:44 am
Australian rePublic wrote:The Sherpa Empire wrote:
It sounds dumb to say your nation won something "national." The examples you gave are the exception not the rule, none of those examples are global competitions, and it's something that only smaller countries would be likely to do. If you have cities like Toronto and Vancouver that are very far from each other, it doesn't make sense that one team could represent both in a "national" sports league.
Wouldn't CHANGING THE DAMN NAME fix this much more efficiently than doing all these mental gymnastics to rationalize it?
I'm sorry, but could you please enlighten me about how an Australian thinking about Australian sporting competitons qualifies as mental gymnastics. I live in Australia, where all our neighbours are tiny and far away. ALL OF THEM. Therefore, any sporting competition in Australia with international representation will have representation in small countries. And NZ's one of them, whereby the South Island is far from the North Island, (Wellington to Queenstown is an hour and a half flight), and there are 1 million people in the South Island, with 3.7 million on the North Island, therefore, it would be easy for the Warriors or the Breakers to represent just the North Island. By comparison, the Cowboys represent Townsville, a city of fewer than 200k. Now, if an American sporting competitoon had more than 2 Canadian teams, me would hardly qualify that as 'national'. And why can't we assume that @@NAME@@ is tiny?
by Luna Amore » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:30 am
Australian rePublic wrote:Baggieland wrote:I have no idea who Nathan Phillips is, and there certainly isn't a square named after this person (whoever he is) in my nation. I would change it to @@LEADER@@ square.
Option 2: three people were shot. This would require an 'allows guns' validity, also it's a bit of a stretch that fans of the same team are going around shooting their fellow supporters. Sports violence is usually rival teams having a bit of a punch up, then legging it when the coppers show up!
In a democracy, I don't see why @@LEADER@@ would be important enough to have a place named after him. For example, in the USA, there is no Obama Square, or Trump Towers... okay, there are Trump Towers, but they pre-date the president's political carer.
by Lancaster of Wessex » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:22 pm
Chan Island wrote:If the nation hasn't won the competition in a long time, then why would there be a preparation for a parade? I'd omit that and just say that after the unexpected win millions of people took to the streets to celebrate and it caused chaos, which is something that regularly happens.
by Chan Island » Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:55 pm
Lancaster of Wessex wrote:Chan Island wrote:If the nation hasn't won the competition in a long time, then why would there be a preparation for a parade? I'd omit that and just say that after the unexpected win millions of people took to the streets to celebrate and it caused chaos, which is something that regularly happens.
There was not enough preparation, that's the whole point of the issue. In option 1, it's made clear by the city planner that they had only 3 days to plan for it.
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Lancaster of Wessex » Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:22 pm
Chan Island wrote:Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
There was not enough preparation, that's the whole point of the issue. In option 1, it's made clear by the city planner that they had only 3 days to plan for it.
I think you're underestimating how spontaneous these celebrations are. When Iceland won an Olympic gold medal a few years ago, hundreds of residents were out celebrating on the streets of Reykjavik within minutes, not days, of the win.
Of course that incident wasn't too chaotic, but the point still stands. If nobody was expecting the nation to win the competition, how were there any preparations for a parade at all? And even if there were, in a such a situation the time lag between the win and people swarming city streets jubilating is precisely no time at all. So how were they even getting a parade underway before the mass chaos had gone underway?
The premise of this issue seems to suggest that a lot of citizens descended on the capital (presumably in cars or public transport) in the days following the win, but that's just not something that's very common. When England wins a national competition, people in Sheffield don't go "hey, let's celebrate in London!" and then immediately head off. They celebrate in their home town.
by Bears Armed » Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:52 am
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