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[R] Continued advocation of illegal activities

Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:32 pm

El Amin has not altered his behavior at all, and still repeatedly defends slavery and provides justification for sex slavery:

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:300 the post.

:?:
Hanafuridake wrote:Expel or execute.

Well yeah, if he fought a Muslim army he'd be killed, imprisoned or enslaved.
Hanafuridake wrote:No problem.

Yeah, read about him on wiki. He has good and bad qualities :?
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:43 pm

Sometimes the losers in battles are killed, imprisoned or enslaved. Not actionable.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:46 pm

Farnhamia wrote:Sometimes the losers in battles are killed, imprisoned or enslaved. Not actionable.

He's very much proposing this as a thing that should be applicable today. The whole conversation started with the question of whether non-Muslims should be allowed to defend themselves from Muslims, and he said repeatedly that if we were to resist Islamic conquest, we would have to be killed, imprisoned, or enslaved. Moreover, even Old Tyrania has noted that El Amin was defending sex slavery in that very thread, and mods also overlooked his linkspam advocating slavery.
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Postby Kowani » Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:47 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Consent between master and slave is literally impossible.

Master: "Wanna have sex?"
Slave: "Yes/No"
Master: "Ok"
There, consent.
Novus America wrote:We have been over this (countless times) before.

So have I
Novus America wrote:Citing medieval propaganda does not change this.

Neither does citing modern propoganda.
Novus America wrote:The problem is many things that are rape you claim are not rape.

>"Many"
Lol ok


Advocation Of statutory rape, then.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:51 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Yeah, see, this is why we hate political Islam.

Al-Islam is political, you have to say "political Islam".
Diopolis wrote:It's dishonorable and immoral to enslave honorable combatants, at least permanently- using them as domestic servants for allied officers during the conflict is one thing.

1: Nice opinion
2: What's the difference between a domestic servant and a slave in Islamic slavery?
Diopolis wrote:Muslim armies also have this habit of enslaving our women and children, whether or not we offer resistance.

Y'all can also offer ransom too.

And here is him directing the advocation at users specifically.
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Postby Luna Amore » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:10 pm

Not actionable.

At this point, I encourage you to utilize the foe feature or just simply stop interacting with El-Amin.

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Postby Kowani » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:13 pm

Luna Amore wrote:Not actionable.

At this point, I encourage you to utilize the foe feature or just simply stop interacting with El-Amin.

So, to clear things up, is it my report that’s not actionable, UMN’s, or both?
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:45 pm

I'd just like to point out that I said this in the debate:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:If the slave feels intimidated into sex they can contact the authorities.

So yeah, this isn't support of sex slavery nor statutory rape. I've made this clear time and time and effing time again and again and a-effing-gain that I don't support rape of literally anybody, but apparently yet another mod (Frisbeeteria to be exact) thinks I support rape. Yet y'all can look through literally every post where this is talked about and find me saying that "rape is Haraam", "you get punished for that, the punishment is 100 lashes". Like, how the eff do y'all make a mistake as lazy and incomprehensible as that?
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Postby Lamoni » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:47 pm

Neither one is actionable, Kowani.

El-Amin,

The thread was already over. Your post was neither needed nor desired. iLock.
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