by Qwertyuioplkjhgfd » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:03 pm
by El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:14 pm
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)
by Ethel mermania » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:17 pm
Qwertyuioplkjhgfd wrote:I just believe the nationstates forum rules are way too strict. One thing that i've noticed here on forums is that players are more concerned with shutting down forums, reporting to mods, and trying to get other players in trouble. It seems to be a game of how funny would it be if I can get this player's forum shut down because someone was a bit passionate in the debate, which will be called flaming. Actually, I can go on any topic and find comments that can "offend" anyone. While I agree cyberbullying is wrong, I do not believe that nationstates should be so strict that topics i discuss in school, middle school in fact, are banned because they are "above the pg-13" rating; any type of comment, currently I see as a trend, is analyzed to see how that can be intended as "flame." Ad hominem arguments at the player are irrelevant I don't disagree; players and mods take it too far with what is politically correct and incorrect, making nationstates forums almost like a north korea dictatorship where pretty much all free thought and debate is censored.
In fact, this forum will probably get shut down because the mods feel offended.
edit: I should say have discussed before in middle school.
by Qwertyuioplkjhgfd » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:23 pm
Ethel mermania wrote:Qwertyuioplkjhgfd wrote:I just believe the nationstates forum rules are way too strict. One thing that i've noticed here on forums is that players are more concerned with shutting down forums, reporting to mods, and trying to get other players in trouble. It seems to be a game of how funny would it be if I can get this player's forum shut down because someone was a bit passionate in the debate, which will be called flaming. Actually, I can go on any topic and find comments that can "offend" anyone. While I agree cyberbullying is wrong, I do not believe that nationstates should be so strict that topics i discuss in school, middle school in fact, are banned because they are "above the pg-13" rating; any type of comment, currently I see as a trend, is analyzed to see how that can be intended as "flame." Ad hominem arguments at the player are irrelevant I don't disagree; players and mods take it too far with what is politically correct and incorrect, making nationstates forums almost like a north korea dictatorship where pretty much all free thought and debate is censored.
In fact, this forum will probably get shut down because the mods feel offended.
edit: I should say have discussed before in middle school.
1. This belongs in the moderation forum
2. If this were North Korea we would kill you for your opinions, not ban you.
3. The rules do prevent things like cheap name calling, even when the name calling is accurate, the rules actually make a poster state an opinion
4. If you dont like it you dont have to post here.
5. 4 is enough
by Qwertyuioplkjhgfd » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:24 pm
by Borovan entered the region as he » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:25 pm
by Catsfern » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:26 pm
by LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:30 pm
Qwertyuioplkjhgfd wrote:... making nationstates forums almost like a north korea dictatorship where pretty much all free thought and debate is censored.
by The Great Swedish Empire » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:30 pm
by Qwertyuioplkjhgfd » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:31 pm
Borovan entered the region as he wrote:The rules r there like u see in facebook and instagram to stop heated stuff u can't just flame without consequence and it's dumb to post things that's childish I mean defacation in public places? I mean it's ok to be silly but this is raising eyebrows and just for to shock ppl
/Not a mod
by Ethel mermania » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:31 pm
Qwertyuioplkjhgfd wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:
1. This belongs in the moderation forum
2. If this were North Korea we would kill you for your opinions, not ban you.
3. The rules do prevent things like cheap name calling, even when the name calling is accurate, the rules actually make a poster state an opinion
4. If you dont like it you dont have to post here.
5. 4 is enough
Where in the rules does it say it belongs in the moderation forum? i just couldn't find it sorry. And yeah that's why I said "almost"; I was also using hyperbole to prove a point. But your number 4: I couldn't disagree more. There is always room for improvement. If one forum site consistently had cyberbullying with death threats, people would also say don't post if you don't like it to the cyberbullied people. I don't believe that makes it right.
by Bluelight-R006 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:32 pm
Qwertyuioplkjhgfd wrote:I just believe the nationstates forum rules are way too strict. (1) One thing that i've noticed here on forums is that players are more concerned with shutting down forums, reporting to mods, and trying to get other players in trouble. It seems to be a game of how funny would it be if I can get this player's forum shut down (2) because someone was a bit passionate in the debate, which will be called flaming. Actually, (3) I can go on any topic and find comments that can "offend" anyone. While I agree cyberbullying is wrong, I do not believe that nationstates should be so strict that (4) topics i discuss in school, middle school in fact, are banned because they are "above the pg-13" rating; any type of comment, currently I see as a trend, is analyzed to see how that can be intended as "flame." Ad hominem arguments at the player are irrelevant I don't disagree; players and mods take it too far with what is politically correct and incorrect,(5) making nationstates forums almost like a north korea dictatorship where pretty much all free thought and debate is censored.
In fact, this forum will probably get shut down because the mods feel offended.
edit: I should say have discussed before in middle school.
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:32 pm
by Qwertyuioplkjhgfd » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:32 pm
Catsfern wrote:im posting here for two reasons 1 to tell you that the mods are just doing their jobs, and two to actually see if this thread gets locked or not.
by Bombadil » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:34 pm
by The Free Joy State » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:35 pm
by LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:37 pm
Bombadil wrote:Odds on OP being DOS for posting banned material already..
Bookies are no longer taking bets.
by El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:38 pm
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)
by Bluelight-R006 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:42 pm
Qwertyuioplkjhgfd wrote:(1) Where in the rules does it say it belongs in the moderation forum? i just couldn't find it sorry. And yeah that's why I said "almost"; I was also using hyperbole to prove a point. But your number 4: I couldn't disagree more. There is always room for improvement. If one forum site consistently had cyberbullying with death threats, (2) people would also say don't post if you don't like it to the cyberbullied people. I don't believe that makes it right.
by Bombadil » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:42 pm
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Bombadil wrote:Odds on OP being DOS for posting banned material already..
Bookies are no longer taking bets.
He isn't DOS. Frisbeeteria told me he wasn't.
by Rhodesia-Zimbabwe » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:42 pm
by Qwertyuioplkjhgfd » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:43 pm
The Free Joy State wrote:Not a mod but when you signed up for the site you agreed to follow the rules. If you're not happy with the T&Cs you signed on for, you don't have to stay.
This is a PG-13 site (which is stated in the rules), which means that what goes on Instagram does not go on here.
Most people quite like being on a site where flaming and trolling are policed. If you would rather that not happen, you are free to go find a more permissive nation simulator (or start one yourself).
by Rhodesia-Zimbabwe » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:47 pm
Qwertyuioplkjhgfd wrote:I also believe that rules can be changed and made better. I believe it is comparable to saying that if a person does not like slavery in the U.S. they can leave the U.S., or if a black did not like the segregation policies they can go back to African later in U.S. history. My comment on Instagram was in response to someone saying NS is like instagram, which I was saying it isn't, like you said. I also agree flaming and trolling should be moderated. It is just people purpose try to find any instance in a debate when something could be considered a flame or troll. For instance, my whole argument can be a flame towards all the mods. The rules says "anything with an intention to offend."That can be so many things in a debate. Why wouldn't nationstates creator Max Barry be offended with my argument?
by Bluelight-R006 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:47 pm
Qwertyuioplkjhgfd wrote:The Free Joy State wrote:Not a mod but when you signed up for the site you agreed to follow the rules. If you're not happy with the T&Cs you signed on for, you don't have to stay.
This is a PG-13 site (which is stated in the rules), which means that what goes on Instagram does not go on here.
Most people quite like being on a site where flaming and trolling are policed. If you would rather that not happen, you are free to go find a more permissive nation simulator (or start one yourself).
I also believe that rules can be changed and made better. I believe it is comparable to saying that if a person does not like slavery in the U.S. they can leave the U.S., or if a black did not like the segregation policies they can go back to African later in U.S. history. My comment on Instagram was in response to someone saying NS is like instagram, which I was saying it isn't, like you said. I also agree flaming and trolling should be moderated. It is just people purpose try to find any instance in a debate when something could be considered a flame or troll. For instance, my whole argument can be a flame towards all the mods. The rules says "anything with an intention to offend."That can be so many things in a debate. Why wouldn't nationstates creator Max Barry be offended with my argument?
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