NATION

PASSWORD

Air Force Defrauded By Housing Provider

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)
Post a reply
User avatar
Gormwood
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14727
Founded: Mar 25, 2019
Ex-Nation

Air Force Defrauded By Housing Provider

Postby Gormwood » Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:46 am

Air Force landlord falsified records to boost income, documents show

Shoddy if not dangerous military housing has been a long standing problem ever since they were privatized, but this Reuters investigation reveals that it was the result of outright fraud, where among other things two sets of books were kept- one an outright lie to con the Air Force on the conditions and work done on housing- and maintenance was welched to maximize profit.

The fuckers need to have their contract revoked and be sued into extinction. And maybe the military housing needs to be militarized again. What say you?
Bloodthirsty savages who call for violence against the Right while simultaneously being unarmed defenseless sissies who will get slaughtered by the gun-toting Right in a civil war.
Breath So Bad, It Actually Drives People Mad
Top
User avatar
Nea Byzantia
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5185
Founded: Jun 03, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Nea Byzantia » Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:48 am

Yes. Bringing Private Contractors into the mix was never a good idea in the first place.
Top
User avatar
Kowani
Post Czar
 
Posts: 44956
Founded: Apr 01, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:52 am

Two sets of books? Crédit Mobilier, is that you?
American History and Historiography; Political and Labour History, Urbanism, Political Parties, Congressional Procedure, Elections.

Servant of The Democracy since 1896.



Effortposts can be found here!
Top
User avatar
The Huskar Social Union
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 59285
Founded: Apr 04, 2012
Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:59 am

Just a thought, dont have military housing in military facilities built by a private company?
Irish Nationalist from Belfast ■■■ / Leftwing / Atheist / Alliance Party voter
"I never thought in terms of being a leader, i thought very simply in terms of helping people" - John Hume 1937 - 2020

I like Miniature painting, Tanks, English Gals, Video games and most importantly Cheese.
Top
User avatar
Valrifell
Post Czar
 
Posts: 31063
Founded: Aug 18, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Valrifell » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:01 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Just a thought, dont have military housing in military facilities built by a private company?


No, sorry, we need the money we save from privatizing military housing to go to funding the military.
HAVING AN ALL CAPS SIG MAKES ME FEEL SMART
Top
User avatar
Gormwood
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14727
Founded: Mar 25, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Gormwood » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:01 pm

Nea Byzantia wrote:Yes. Bringing Private Contractors into the mix was never a good idea in the first place.

It's a disaster with prisons, and it's definitely a disaster with military housing.
Bloodthirsty savages who call for violence against the Right while simultaneously being unarmed defenseless sissies who will get slaughtered by the gun-toting Right in a civil war.
Breath So Bad, It Actually Drives People Mad
Top
User avatar
Ethel mermania
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 129517
Founded: Aug 20, 2010
Father Knows Best State

Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:08 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:Yes. Bringing Private Contractors into the mix was never a good idea in the first place.

It's a disaster with prisons, and it's definitely a disaster with military housing.

If its reasonably well run its much cheaper and faster to use outside contractors to do housing. That said this clearly isnt the case here. I would like to see a criminal investigation of this and that investigation should include the air force personnel in charge of inspecting the contractors work
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger
Top
User avatar
Unstoppable Empire of Doom
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1798
Founded: Dec 18, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:16 pm

Valrifell wrote:
No, sorry, we need the money we save from privatizing military housing


That is an oxymoron. Privatization typically costs more.
Whoever said "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink" has clearly never drown a horse.
Top
User avatar
Gormwood
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14727
Founded: Mar 25, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Gormwood » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:17 pm

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
No, sorry, we need the money we save from privatizing military housing


That is an oxymoron. Privatization typically costs more.

That was sarcasm.
Bloodthirsty savages who call for violence against the Right while simultaneously being unarmed defenseless sissies who will get slaughtered by the gun-toting Right in a civil war.
Breath So Bad, It Actually Drives People Mad
Top
User avatar
LiberNovusAmericae
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6942
Founded: Mar 10, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:21 pm

They should lose their contract, and someone should go to prison.
Top
User avatar
Ethel mermania
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 129517
Founded: Aug 20, 2010
Father Knows Best State

Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:24 pm

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
No, sorry, we need the money we save from privatizing military housing


That is an oxymoron. Privatization typically costs more.

Source please.
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger
Top
User avatar
Gormwood
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14727
Founded: Mar 25, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Gormwood » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:54 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Gormwood wrote:It's a disaster with prisons, and it's definitely a disaster with military housing.

If its reasonably well run its much cheaper and faster to use outside contractors to do housing. That said this clearly isnt the case here. I would like to see a criminal investigation of this and that investigation should include the air force personnel in charge of inspecting the contractors work

Assuming they were incompetent or corrupt and not treated to a Potemkin pageant.
Bloodthirsty savages who call for violence against the Right while simultaneously being unarmed defenseless sissies who will get slaughtered by the gun-toting Right in a civil war.
Breath So Bad, It Actually Drives People Mad
Top
User avatar
Ethel mermania
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 129517
Founded: Aug 20, 2010
Father Knows Best State

Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:28 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:If its reasonably well run its much cheaper and faster to use outside contractors to do housing. That said this clearly isnt the case here. I would like to see a criminal investigation of this and that investigation should include the air force personnel in charge of inspecting the contractors work

Assuming they were incompetent or corrupt and not treated to a Potemkin pageant.


I swear if I have to look at one more mise en scene of of poor housing conditions leading to a revolution....
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger
Top
User avatar
Des-Bal
Post Czar
 
Posts: 32801
Founded: Jan 24, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Des-Bal » Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:58 pm

Fraud should be illegal.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
Top
User avatar
Gig em Aggies
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7728
Founded: Aug 15, 2009
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Gig em Aggies » Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:02 pm

Des-Bal wrote:Fraud should be illegal.

where have you been under a rock? anyways I feel like another two departments should be created 1 in the military and 1 outside of the military both would watch over how contracts are given to builders to construct military housing.
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
“If we don’t know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can’t anticipate our future actions!”
Top
User avatar
Ecradia
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 56
Founded: Jun 11, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Ecradia » Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:08 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:Fraud should be illegal.

where have you been under a rock? anyways I feel like another two departments should be created 1 in the military and 1 outside of the military both would watch over how contracts are given to builders to construct military housing.

I think it was a joke, man.
Kowani wrote:That’s like getting approval from Richard Spencer about your paper on genetics.
Top
Post a reply

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Antrantica, Dazchan, Kastopoli Salegliari, Keltionialang, Kostane, Majestic-12 [Bot]

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group

Advertisement

Remove ads

cron