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by Harkback Union » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:37 pm
by Galloism » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:38 pm
Des-Bal wrote:Galloism wrote:And plenty of people go out all the time and don't find anybody either.
Hell, i know autism is the go to excuse for everybody, but quite a few incels suffer depression, autism, and body dysmorphic disorder. It's so prevalent it's actually in the wikipedia article.
It makes it extremely difficult to have and hold onto a relationship with one or more of those conditions.
And those people are almost certainly terrible.
Seek treatment because all of those can lead to you doing something terrible.
by Neder Brum » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:38 pm
Galloism wrote:Des-Bal wrote:
Those are both totally true. If you aren't finding anyone your approach is fucked. I don't know how many people I've heard complain that they couldn't find anybody when they were going from home to work to home.
And plenty of people go out all the time and don't find anybody either.
Hell, i know autism is the go to excuse for everybody, but quite a few incels suffer depression, autism, and body dysmorphic disorder. It's so prevalent it's actually in the wikipedia article.
It makes it extremely difficult to have and hold onto a relationship with one or more of those conditions.
by Ethel mermania » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:39 pm
by Diopolis » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:40 pm
Grapasia wrote:The New California Republic wrote:Everything you have said in relation to it has been totally inaccurate, that's how you are wrong. There really is no other way to answer your question...
enlighteningDiopolis wrote:You have to undo the sexual revolution.
In other words, you're screwed.
this tbh ngl
people are gonna go ER tho
by The South Falls » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:40 pm
by Des-Bal » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:40 pm
Galloism wrote:Two of those three are not curable, and the other one isn't curable for everyone.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by The South Falls » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:41 pm
by Ethel mermania » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:42 pm
by The South Falls » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:42 pm
by The South Falls » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:44 pm
by Galloism » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:44 pm
Des-Bal wrote:Galloism wrote:Two of those three are not curable, and the other one isn't curable for everyone.
That's why I said seek treatment and not "take a shot of penicillin, you'll be fine." If you find yourself incapable of relating to another person or reading their social cues that's terrible, if your severe autism is causing it all you can do i seek treatment.
by Ostroeuropa » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:44 pm
Liriena wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
Gallos conclusion in light of the study supports my position, because the same study notes that people have serious problems with a perpetrator-victim dichotomy, and if they view women as victims they view men as perpetrators. That is reinforced by and reinforces higher levels of empathy, absolvement of blame, and so on.
Caring less about women frees up that cognitive ability to care about men.
"Caring less", huh?
What happened to your advocacy for contempt?
by Ostroeuropa » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:46 pm
Galloism wrote:Des-Bal wrote:
That's why I said seek treatment and not "take a shot of penicillin, you'll be fine." If you find yourself incapable of relating to another person or reading their social cues that's terrible, if your severe autism is causing it all you can do i seek treatment.
And you should, but let's face it - not everyone is going to find someone, and saying "you're a sucky person if you can't 'get' a woman" isn't helping. It's part of that feedback loop that i briefly referenced.
Person is unlucky or has a disability, and has trouble finding love.
Society says "You suck."
You isolate yourself from society because no one likes being told they suck.
The are even more unlucky.
Society says "you suck so bad it's not even funny."
You isolate yourself from society even more, but because all humans need some kind of interaction, you look for someone who will actually not tell you you suck.
You find an incel forum.
Society says "You suck and you're DANGEROUS!"
Incel forum says "it's not all you, society just sucks"
You find an ally against society telling you you suck all the time.
This is actually how extremism happens, and doubling down on "you suck" doesn't break the cycle of extremism - it reinforces it.
by Mojave Confederation » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:47 pm
by Galloism » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:49 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:It also goes the other way and is self-reinforcing. If someone is single there must be something wrong with them, or so it goes, which means people are less likely to consider them, even if they don't care themselves.
The difference between stigma and self-stigma.
by Ethel mermania » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:50 pm
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