by Fascist Rep of Singapore » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:39 am
by Neu Leonstein » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:54 am
by National Republic of Antagoria » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:57 am
by The Great Swedish Empire » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:00 am
by Nilrahrarfan » Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:18 am
by National Republic of Antagoria » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:49 am
Nilrahrarfan wrote:It still exists, it's called Merkel.
by Chan Island » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:23 am
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Imbalistan » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:24 am
Chan Island wrote:This begs the question as to how communism could possibly have survived. And if did survive, how did it survive in such a way as to allow capitalism to survive too. The way in which they do so will completely dictate the answer.
Chan Island wrote:And I'm expecting this thread to devolve into a
racist and/or religious and/or politics shitshow within 3 pages.
by Arcturus Novus » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:26 am
Nilrahrarfan wrote:It still exists, it's called Merkel.
Nilokeras wrote:there is of course an interesting thread to pull on [...]
Unfortunately we're all forced to participate in whatever baroque humiliation kink the OP has going on instead.
by Torrocca » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:28 am
Nilrahrarfan wrote:It still exists, it's called Merkel.
by National Republic of Antagoria » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:29 am
by Torrocca » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:32 am
National Republic of Antagoria wrote:The communists could not make it into the 21st century even if the Afghanistan invasion, mafia and space race never existed. Even so, communism was a flawed system in which Karl Marx never wanted communism to be a full-blown economic and political system. It was doomed to die anyway no matter what.
by Arcturus Novus » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:38 am
National Republic of Antagoria wrote:The communists could not make it into the 21st century even if the Afghanistan invasion, mafia and space race never existed.
Even so, communism was a flawed system in which Karl Marx never wanted communism to be a full-blown economic and political system. It was doomed to die anyway no matter what.
Nilokeras wrote:there is of course an interesting thread to pull on [...]
Unfortunately we're all forced to participate in whatever baroque humiliation kink the OP has going on instead.
by The New California Republic » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:17 am
Neu Leonstein wrote:The answer to all those questions depends on how 1980s style Soviet communism could have not collapsed. What would they have done differently that saved their bacon?
by The South Falls » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:38 am
by El-Amin Caliphate » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:07 am
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)
by The New California Republic » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:14 am
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Communism wasn't practiced in the Eastern Bloc.
by Imbalistan » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:55 am
Chan Island wrote:And I'm expecting this thread to devolve into a
racist and/or religious and/or politics shitshow within 3 pages.
by Nilrahrarfan » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:58 am
Torrocca wrote:National Republic of Antagoria wrote:The communists could not make it into the 21st century even if the Afghanistan invasion, mafia and space race never existed. Even so, communism was a flawed system in which Karl Marx never wanted communism to be a full-blown economic and political system. It was doomed to die anyway no matter what.
Literally nothing past that first sentence is true. Why, pray tell, would the father of Communism not want it to be a full-blown system? Communism never failed because it was never even implemented.
by Nakena » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:02 am
Nilrahrarfan wrote:Torrocca wrote:
Literally nothing past that first sentence is true. Why, pray tell, would the father of Communism not want it to be a full-blown system? Communism never failed because it was never even implemented.
Communism is a bad idea, and we've proven it. Try implementing your own communist system in a micronation and see if it works or not, and if it doesn't, that's proof that it'll NEVER work. If it DOES work for whatever reason, I'll be surprised. Tell me the results after the experiment is over.
by Finland SSR » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:04 am
by Torrocca » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:11 am
Try implementing your own communist system in a micronation and see if it works or not, and if it doesn't, that's proof that it'll NEVER work. If it DOES work for whatever reason, I'll be surprised. Tell me the results after the experiment is over.
by Nakena » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:12 am
Torrocca wrote:Nilrahrarfan wrote:Communism is a bad idea, and we've proven it.
No you haven't.Try implementing your own communist system in a micronation and see if it works or not, and if it doesn't, that's proof that it'll NEVER work. If it DOES work for whatever reason, I'll be surprised. Tell me the results after the experiment is over.
The Zapatistas have been running a Communist society for over twenty years now. I'm sure you'll totally concede that you're wrong after having been told this, and not instead go and say, "lol but they're mountain farmers so it doesn't count xD".
by Nilrahrarfan » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:18 am
Torrocca wrote:Nilrahrarfan wrote:Communism is a bad idea, and we've proven it.
No you haven't.Try implementing your own communist system in a micronation and see if it works or not, and if it doesn't, that's proof that it'll NEVER work. If it DOES work for whatever reason, I'll be surprised. Tell me the results after the experiment is over.
The Zapatistas have been running a Communist society for over twenty years now. I'm sure you'll totally concede that you're wrong after having been told this, and not instead go and say, "lol but they're mountain farmers so it doesn't count xD".
by Aeritai » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:20 am
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