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by Ostroeuropa » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:38 am
by The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:41 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:This is pretty much why I support Raab (Or at an outside shot, Stewart.) for Tory leader.
Most tory governments are a shitshow across the board and having any redeeming qualities at all is a novelty.
I think we're going to see a No deal brexit, followed by a Johnson landslide. At that point Corbyn will resign and we'll have a debate over the new path to take.
Labour and the Liberals will spend more time fighting eachother than Johnson for a long while, until his supporters realize he is basically a neoliberal type and you see a right wing revolt.
by Ostroeuropa » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:42 am
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:This is pretty much why I support Raab (Or at an outside shot, Stewart.) for Tory leader.
Most tory governments are a shitshow across the board and having any redeeming qualities at all is a novelty.
I think we're going to see a No deal brexit, followed by a Johnson landslide. At that point Corbyn will resign and we'll have a debate over the new path to take.
Labour and the Liberals will spend more time fighting eachother than Johnson for a long while, until his supporters realize he is basically a neoliberal type and you see a right wing revolt.
Only good thing to come out of that imo would be us leaving and joining the republic.
by The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:06 am
by The Free Joy State » Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:17 am
by Neu Leonstein » Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:25 am
Philjia wrote:Sajid Javid has a more convincing claim to actually represent the interests of working people, since his father was an immigrant bus driver turned shop owner, he was subjected to racial abuse, and was fucked over by the education system more than once.
by Ostroeuropa » Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:47 am
by Philjia » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:28 am
by Definitely Not Trumptonium » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:07 am
by Definitely Not Trumptonium » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:11 am
by Mostrov » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:12 am
Thanatttynia wrote:They may be colossal dicks but they're not uniquely evil. If they're prepared and able to intervene, other nations will be too. In any case it's not exactly a first for America to involve itself in morally dubious efforts (regime change or otherwise) in other countries. Obama had Merkel's phone tapped... My point is more that a US Secretary of State wouldn't have made such comments even five years ago. The UK's international power is nosediving, this is just one indication of that
by Mostrov » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:13 am
Definitely Not Trumptonium wrote:Harper, Leadsom and McVey are out.
Rory Stewart and Matt Hancock narrowly avoid being eliminated.
Boris Johnson way ahead at over 100, 2nd place Hunt at 43.
Very disappointing for Raab - only 23.
by Vassenor » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:15 am
by Neu Leonstein » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:20 am
by Definitely Not Trumptonium » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:23 am
by Ostroeuropa » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:24 am
by Liriena » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:29 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hl83Jpd_OI
This is the kind of shit a united europe can get away with. (47 seconds) Just saying. This is basically what we want to be, right?
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by Ostroeuropa » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:31 am
Liriena wrote:Boris Johnson in the lead. It seems my recently adoption of a policy of "expect nothing, but prepare for the stupidest possible outcome" when it comes to elections was a sensible decision.Ostroeuropa wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hl83Jpd_OI
This is the kind of shit a united europe can get away with. (47 seconds) Just saying. This is basically what we want to be, right?
Why must you make me stan Juncker, Ostro? I don't wanna stan Juncker.
by Liriena » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:33 am
Vassenor wrote:Well, there goes whatever international prestige we had left, I suppose.
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by Liriena » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:36 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:Liriena wrote:Boris Johnson in the lead. It seems my recently adoption of a policy of "expect nothing, but prepare for the stupidest possible outcome" when it comes to elections was a sensible decision.
Why must you make me stan Juncker, Ostro? I don't wanna stan Juncker.
Lir.
Johnson is the compromise candidate. Let that sink in.
Ostroeuropa wrote:He's a social liberal, vaguely distrustful of government authoritarianism and doesn't like the surveillance state, does barmy schemes if they seem like a laugh (thus opening the door to environmentalism through shit like boris bikes), ardently pro-brexit, and so on.
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by Ostroeuropa » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:38 am
Liriena wrote:
You know. Terry Pratchett dedicated his later years to advocating for the legalization of assisted suicide in the UK. Now, of course he was talking about assisted suicide for individual human beings, but I'm sure he'd appreciate it if we expanded that to political parties. It's clear that the Tory party wants to kill itself.Ostroeuropa wrote:He's a social liberal, vaguely distrustful of government authoritarianism and doesn't like the surveillance state, does barmy schemes if they seem like a laugh (thus opening the door to environmentalism through shit like boris bikes), ardently pro-brexit, and so on.
You missed a golden opportunity to do a Zizek impression in that "and so on".
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