Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVI: Making Things Right Again

[Camelone]

Even though he wasn't a prolific writer, I want to give a shout out to Walter M. Miller Jr who was a terrific writer. A Canticle for Leibowitz is one of the greatest science fiction novels I have ever read and it deserves more praise and attention.

This sounds like a very interesting book...I will see if I can get my hands on it. Thanks.

Read The High Crusade also, it's about a town of Englishmen during the Hundred Years War waging an interstellar war against aliens. It's absolutely beautiful!

[Diopolis]

Even though he wasn't a prolific writer, I want to give a shout out to Walter M. Miller Jr who was a terrific writer. A Canticle for Leibowitz is one of the greatest science fiction novels I have ever read and it deserves more praise and attention.

This sounds like a very interesting book...I will see if I can get my hands on it. Thanks.

It's very good.

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

But seriously, I'm still at a loss when it comes to a reasonably concise and accurate descriptor of my politics. Any suggestions?

[Kvatchdom]

But seriously, I'm still at a loss when it comes to a reasonably concise and accurate descriptor of my politics. Any suggestions?

I mean, you could try out some tests or read way too many books. I've been into politics for 10 years and I still just use general pointers instead of accurate ideologies on myself.

[Cappuccina]

But seriously, I'm still at a loss when it comes to a reasonably concise and accurate descriptor of my politics. Any suggestions?

Like, what are your social and economic views?

[Kvatchdom]

But seriously, I'm still at a loss when it comes to a reasonably concise and accurate descriptor of my politics. Any suggestions?

Like, what are your social and economic views?

You can't just ask that, it's very rude. What if he's an anprim? People will just laugh at the poor fellow here.

[Hanafuridake]

Well the modern state and modern armies did not exist at the time, there was not a clear line between private and government militaries.

Which is why referring to medieval leaders as warlords, excluding mercenary companies, is difficult to actually do consistently.

William also took power by force in a weakened state and did not follow the established norms of succession, being a bastard.

The Kingdom of England was not weakened, and he had already become a duke as a child. It was a struggle between claimants to the English throne and not a warlord overthrowing the state.

Sure primitive superstitions can be a useful tool to remain in power. But falls under using it to scare people and/or gain popular support.

The kings and priests of the past weren't 21st century rationalists who knew about science, atheism, and empiricism. They believed in the supernatural just as much as everyone else. This is no different from Marxists claiming that religion was just invented to control class conflict.

Because nearly every monarchical line is repeatedly broken by people seizing power contrary to the rules of succession, at what point does a usurper/raider or their dynasty become a “legitimate” monarch?

I've not introduced “legitimacy” into the discussion. I don't believe in pan-monarchy (the notion of monarchy as a generic institution) it varies from different cultures. If you wanted to ask about the English crown's legitimacy, I wouldn't be able to tell you. I can only tell you about my own, which is that legitimacy depends on patrilineal descent from the first emperor Jimmu.

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

But seriously, I'm still at a loss when it comes to a reasonably concise and accurate descriptor of my politics. Any suggestions?

Like, what are your social and economic views?

I mean, economically I advocate for a form of ordoliberal corporatism (or similar), while socially my beliefs are characterized by a distinct communitarian and/or collectivist streak, as I view radical individualism to lead to libertine decadence and a weakening of social harmony/stability. Other aspects of my ideological worldview include advocacy for the establishment of a federal or confederal global government, and a Hobbesian belief that the state’s primary goal is to prevent the summit malum (or ultimate evil) of a “war of all against all”.

[Kvatchdom]

Like, what are your social and economic views?

I mean, economically I advocate for a form of ordoliberal corporatism (or similar), while socially my beliefs are characterized by a distinct communitarian and/or collectivist streak, as I view radical individualism to lead to libertine decadence and a weakening of social harmony/stability.

Just say that. Much more accurate than appointing an ideology to yourself.

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

I mean, economically I advocate for a form of ordoliberal corporatism (or similar), while socially my beliefs are characterized by a distinct communitarian and/or collectivist streak, as I view radical individualism to lead to libertine decadence and a weakening of social harmony/stability.

Just say that. Much more accurate than appointing an ideology to yourself.

I must say, though, that my description is somewhat akin to a wall of text.

[Kvatchdom]

Just say that. Much more accurate than appointing an ideology to yourself.

I must say, though, that my description is somewhat akin to a wall of text.

Oh I've seen worse.

[Diopolis]

Like, what are your social and economic views?

I mean, economically I advocate for a form of ordoliberal corporatism (or similar), while socially my beliefs are characterized by a distinct communitarian and/or collectivist streak, as I view radical individualism to lead to libertine decadence and a weakening of social harmony/stability. Other aspects of my ideological worldview include advocacy for the establishment of a federal or confederal global government, and a Hobbesian belief that the state’s primary goal is to prevent the summit malum (or ultimate evil) of a “war of all against all”.

Corporatist-totalitarian Globalist?

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

I mean, economically I advocate for a form of ordoliberal corporatism (or similar), while socially my beliefs are characterized by a distinct communitarian and/or collectivist streak, as I view radical individualism to lead to libertine decadence and a weakening of social harmony/stability. Other aspects of my ideological worldview include advocacy for the establishment of a federal or confederal global government, and a Hobbesian belief that the state’s primary goal is to prevent the summit malum (or ultimate evil) of a “war of all against all”.

Corporatist-totalitarian Globalist?

The thing is, “totalitarian globalist” makes me seem like a cartoonish supervillain. I don’t wish to be a cartoonish supervillain.

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

As a side note, the term “totalitarian” implies the morally corrupt abuse of power, which I seek to avoid.

[Kvatchdom]

As a side note, the term “totalitarian” implies the morally corrupt abuse of power, which I seek to avoid.

Is dictatorial better? Dictator was originally not much of a negative word.

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

As a side note, the term “totalitarian” implies the morally corrupt abuse of power, which I seek to avoid.

Is dictatorial better? Dictator was originally not much of a negative word.

It’s pejorative nowadays, though.

[Kvatchdom]

Is dictatorial better? Dictator was originally not much of a negative word.

It’s pejorative nowadays, though.

Who cares? I certainly don't.

[Nova Cyberia]

If you don't have this blasting from your computer speakers 24/7 then you aren't a real rightist. Change my mind.

[Cappuccina]

Like, what are your social and economic views?

I mean, economically I advocate for a form of ordoliberal corporatism (or similar), while socially my beliefs are characterized by a distinct communitarian and/or collectivist streak, as I view radical individualism to lead to libertine decadence and a weakening of social harmony/stability. Other aspects of my ideological worldview include advocacy for the establishment of a federal or confederal global government, and a Hobbesian belief that the state’s primary goal is to prevent the summit malum (or ultimate evil) of a “war of all against all”.

Interesting....

Yeah, sounds like an authoritarian internationalist corporatism or something like that. My views are similar, sans the internationalism and Hobbes influence, of course.

[Cappuccina]

Like, what are your social and economic views?

You can't just ask that, it's very rude. What if he's an anprim? People will just laugh at the poor fellow here.

I mean, even if his views were ridiculous, they're still interesting to hear about.

[Kvatchdom]

You can't just ask that, it's very rude. What if he's an anprim? People will just laugh at the poor fellow here.

I mean, even if his views were ridiculous, they're still interesting to hear about.

Just making jest

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

But seriously, I'm still at a loss when it comes to a reasonably concise and accurate descriptor of my politics. Any suggestions?

What are some of your most deeply held beliefs?

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Corporatist-totalitarian Globalist?

The thing is, “totalitarian globalist” makes me seem like a cartoonish supervillain. I don’t wish to be a cartoonish supervillain.

Wanting to install a world government kind of sounds super-villain-ey. At least to me.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

If you don't have this blasting from your computer speakers 24/7 then you aren't a real rightist. Change my mind.

What if you're a rightist but you don't like Monarchist Germany?

[Cappuccina]

If you don't have this blasting from your computer speakers 24/7 then you aren't a real rightist. Change my mind.

What if you're a rightist but you don't like Monarchist Germany?

I'm not even rightist, but Imperial Germany is pretty tolerable in my book, I'm rather ambivalent towards monarchism....policy is more important.