Protests are meant to send that message. Also, if you kill off every last voice in protest, who's left?
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by Bombadil » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:40 pm
Duhon wrote:Bombadil wrote:10:23AM
Protesters gather bricks
At Lung Wo Tunnel's east exit, protesters are plucking loose bricks from pavements.
God I have a bad feeling about all this.
Hide. Afterwards, deliberate on the fastest way to leave Hong Kong, and organize accordingly. If you can help a few people of Hong Kong leave along the way, that's a world of good.
New Bremerton wrote:The worsening political situation, as well as severe overcrowding brought on by Mainlanders flooding into Hong Kong thanks to the city-state's open borders policy and eroding its language, culture and cosmopolitan, multicultural identity, are the reasons my family moved back to Malaysia. My childhood home of nearly 30 years: Sold. Fuck you Beijing. By the way, if any of you guys use WeChat, uninstall it now. I'm pleasantly surprised that HK people are still fighting for their freedom even now. There is a small but not insignificant independence movement and a growing nostalgia for British rule as well as a sense of betrayal at Britain's withdrawal.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:44 pm
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:46 pm
Bombadil wrote:Duhon wrote:
Hide. Afterwards, deliberate on the fastest way to leave Hong Kong, and organize accordingly. If you can help a few people of Hong Kong leave along the way, that's a world of good.
I run a business with employees here, it's not so easy to just leave.. and go where? I left the UK when I was 3 and not sure I'd want to return to a post-Brexit country anyway.
by Nova Cyberia » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:47 pm
by Bombadil » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:50 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Bombadil wrote:
I run a business with employees here, it's not so easy to just leave.. and go where? I left the UK when I was 3 and not sure I'd want to return to a post-Brexit country anyway.
Fucking lmao
I don't know about you, but I'd take a struggling economy over a corporate police state any day.
by Duhon » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:51 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Bombadil wrote:
I run a business with employees here, it's not so easy to just leave.. and go where? I left the UK when I was 3 and not sure I'd want to return to a post-Brexit country anyway.
Fucking lmao
I don't know about you, but I'd take a struggling economy over a corporate police state any day.
by Heloin » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:54 pm
Bombadil wrote:Duhon wrote:
Hide. Afterwards, deliberate on the fastest way to leave Hong Kong, and organize accordingly. If you can help a few people of Hong Kong leave along the way, that's a world of good.
I run a business with employees here, it's not so easy to just leave.. and go where? I left the UK when I was 3 and not sure I'd want to return to a post-Brexit country anyway.New Bremerton wrote:The worsening political situation, as well as severe overcrowding brought on by Mainlanders flooding into Hong Kong thanks to the city-state's open borders policy and eroding its language, culture and cosmopolitan, multicultural identity, are the reasons my family moved back to Malaysia. My childhood home of nearly 30 years: Sold. Fuck you Beijing. By the way, if any of you guys use WeChat, uninstall it now. I'm pleasantly surprised that HK people are still fighting for their freedom even now. There is a small but not insignificant independence movement and a growing nostalgia for British rule as well as a sense of betrayal at Britain's withdrawal.
The extent to which people live on WeChat, on my last visit to Shanghai you really can't buy anything with cash anymore - the coffee shop where I tried simply said they don't have money in the till. So pretty much everything you do is recorded. It actually feels oppressive.
China is a good example of the dangers where we freely give up all our data.
by Pasong Tirad » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:02 pm
by Bombadil » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:15 pm
Pasong Tirad wrote:Second reading of the Extradition bill has been delayed.
by Bombadil » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:38 pm
Nakena wrote:UK should have given Hong Kong back to the Republic of China. That would have been splendid.
Or maybe just kept it.
by Pasong Tirad » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:45 pm
by Bombadil » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:45 pm
by Nova Cyberia » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:47 pm
Bombadil wrote:Nakena wrote:
Please elaborate.
I mean Singapore was originally part of Malaysia until it was expelled in '65. It functions perfectly well as an independent city state. If the UK had set up HK as an independent and democratic state in the 60's for example, I think it could be functioning well as an independent city state as well.
Obviously by the 80's it would have been impossible as China would never accept it. Yet, similar to Taiwan, it might not necessarily take the step of invading HK if it had been established as independent earlier.
Quite honestly I'd be ok with the Cantonese speaking population of southern China seceding but that will never happen.
by New Bremerton » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:49 pm
Duhon wrote:Bombadil wrote:10:23AM
Protesters gather bricks
At Lung Wo Tunnel's east exit, protesters are plucking loose bricks from pavements.
God I have a bad feeling about all this.
Hide. Afterwards, deliberate on the fastest way to leave Hong Kong, and organize accordingly. If you can help a few people of Hong Kong leave along the way, that's a world of good.
Bombadil wrote:I run a business with employees here, it's not so easy to just leave.. and go where? I left the UK when I was 3 and not sure I'd want to return to a post-Brexit country anyway.
by Pasong Tirad » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:50 pm
Bombadil wrote:Quite honestly I'd be ok with the Cantonese speaking population of southern China seceding but that will never happen.
by Infected Mushroom » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:52 pm
by Nova Cyberia » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:55 pm
Infected Mushroom wrote:As someone who lives in Hong Kong, I don’t want any trouble.
That’s my priority.
If you ask me, then I consider any protests at this point to be highly irresponsible and reckless. I’m not interested in seeing a military crackdown here because some idealists start some demonstrations.
Having seen the mockery that is democracy in countries like the USA, I can safely say it’s not worth dying for (it’s more ugly than beautiful). And it would be a shame if this led to actual bloodshed and economic disruption.
by Bombadil » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:56 pm
Nova Cyberia wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:As someone who lives in Hong Kong, I don’t want any trouble.
That’s my priority.
If you ask me, then I consider any protests at this point to be highly irresponsible and reckless. I’m not interested in seeing a military crackdown here because some idealists start some demonstrations.
Having seen the mockery that is democracy in countries like the USA, I can safely say it’s not worth dying for (it’s more ugly than beautiful). And it would be a shame if this led to actual bloodshed and economic disruption.
You'd rather live in a totalitarian country like China than a democracy like the USA?
*chuckles*
Okay, fam. Move to China. If you find a way around the internet censorship and can log on to NS, let us all know how it is.
by Duhon » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:56 pm
Infected Mushroom wrote:As someone who lives in Hong Kong, I don’t want any trouble.
That’s my priority.
If you ask me, then I consider any protests at this point to be highly irresponsible and reckless. I’m not interested in seeing a military crackdown here because some idealists start some demonstrations.
Having seen the mockery that is democracy in countries like the USA, I can safely say it’s not worth dying for (it’s more ugly than beautiful). And it would be a shame if this led to actual bloodshed and economic disruption.
by Nova Cyberia » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:58 pm
Bombadil wrote:Nova Cyberia wrote:You'd rather live in a totalitarian country like China than a democracy like the USA?
*chuckles*
Okay, fam. Move to China. If you find a way around the internet censorship and can log on to NS, let us all know how it is.
NS is not blocked in China, at least not the last time I was there a couple months ago.
by Nakena » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:58 pm
Infected Mushroom wrote:As someone who lives in Hong Kong, I don’t want any trouble.
That’s my priority.
If you ask me, then I consider any protests at this point to be highly irresponsible and reckless. I’m not interested in seeing a military crackdown here because some idealists start some demonstrations.
Having seen the mockery that is democracy in countries like the USA, I can safely say it’s not worth dying for (it’s more ugly than beautiful). And it would be a shame if this led to actual bloodshed and economic disruption.
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