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The World Capitalist Confederation
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:48 pm

Roosevetania wrote:The following conversation is continued from the Office.
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:We could actually campaign and fight for our seats. There's really no point in who or what we vote for since it doesn't affect our popularity. We're effectively an oligarchy because we don't have elections.

We do have elections, ICly, but we don't do them OOC. It is assumed you win your seat. In the NSG Senate people would sometimes post about election rallies in Life Outside. In one iteration of the Senate we had RP elections and results based off that. However, if you lost, you still had a seat, it was just assumed you were elected by party list.

Ahh. Should we pad our house out to, say, 100 seats and then throw AI (decided by election results) into the seats?
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Roosevetania
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Postby Roosevetania » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:53 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Roosevetania wrote:The following conversation is continued from the Office.

We do have elections, ICly, but we don't do them OOC. It is assumed you win your seat. In the NSG Senate people would sometimes post about election rallies in Life Outside. In one iteration of the Senate we had RP elections and results based off that. However, if you lost, you still had a seat, it was just assumed you were elected by party list.

Ahh. Should we pad our house out to, say, 100 seats and then throw AI (decided by election results) into the seats?

I don't think there's a need for that. Would these AI vote?
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Postby Martune » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:55 pm

Roosevetania wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Ahh. Should we pad our house out to, say, 100 seats and then throw AI (decided by election results) into the seats?

I don't think there's a need for that. Would these AI vote?

Seems unnecessary to keep track of AI votes based on party lines
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:00 pm

Martune wrote:
Roosevetania wrote:I don't think there's a need for that. Would these AI vote?

Seems unnecessary to keep track of AI votes based on party lines

Ik but the problem is that people will be able to pad numbers by inviting similarly-minded people. There's no point to your decisions and so you can just end up being a completely moral or immoral human being. You are unrestrained. It is effectively an oligarchy.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:12 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Martune wrote:Seems unnecessary to keep track of AI votes based on party lines

Ik but the problem is that people will be able to pad numbers by inviting similarly-minded people. There's no point to your decisions and so you can just end up being a completely moral or immoral human being. You are unrestrained. It is effectively an oligarchy.

We should probably cut the amount of MPs to 50. No more than that. What we have is what we have
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Postby Roosevetania » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:15 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Ik but the problem is that people will be able to pad numbers by inviting similarly-minded people. There's no point to your decisions and so you can just end up being a completely moral or immoral human being. You are unrestrained. It is effectively an oligarchy.

We should probably cut the amount of MPs to 50. No more than that. What we have is what we have

We shouldn't close off applications. Plenty of the people signed up won't be active, and we need all the activity we can get.
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Postby MERIZoC » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:43 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Ik but the problem is that people will be able to pad numbers by inviting similarly-minded people. There's no point to your decisions and so you can just end up being a completely moral or immoral human being. You are unrestrained. It is effectively an oligarchy.

We should probably cut the amount of MPs to 50. No more than that. What we have is what we have

lol extremely stupid suggestion

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Postby Martune » Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:05 am

First, play nice in here

Second, if you haven't, please join our Discord. It's an easy way to talk with everyone and stay updated.

Third, please identify your character and party in your sig. It's been done in NSGS and worked really nice.

Last, it would also be pretty sweet if you advertised NS Parliament in your sig as well. It would help bring in fresh faces whenever you travel the forums.

Thank ya!
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Postby Pere Housh Alpha » Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:42 am

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Nation Name: Pere Housh Alpha
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Character Name (Optional, Add Full Profile In Database): Michael Thomas
Party (choose from existing parties or create one with the party application):National People's Party

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Postby East Meranopirus » Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:45 am

Pere Housh Alpha wrote:
Pere Housh Alpha wrote:
Nation Name: Pere Housh Alpha
History of Warnings, Bans, etc: none
Character Name (Optional, Add Full Profile In Database): Michael Thomas
Party (choose from existing parties or create one with the party application):National People's Party

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Everyone's automatically accepted unless an admin says otherwise.

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Postby Daunlaund » Sat Jun 08, 2019 4:23 am

Nation Name: Daunlaund
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Character Name (Optional, Add Full Profile In Database): Daun Olmundsson
Party (choose from existing parties or create one with the party application): Centrist-Progressive

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Postby The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism » Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:20 pm

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From left to right:
Dark Red: Christian Syndicalist Workers Union Of Saint Hilda
Red: Peoples Labour Party-Mountain Party
Pink: Republic
Purple: Social Democratic Party
Dark Green: The Greens
Gold: Christian Peoples Congress-Agricultural Alliance Party
Light Green: Center-Progressive
Light Blue: Social Liberal Party: The Radicals
Dark Blue: National Peoples Party
Yellow: Capitalist Party
Orange: Sankta Hilda All-Patriots' Congress
Black: People's Front for National Sovereignty


With a defection from PFNS, NPP has become the first single party to reach 10 members, though the Liberal Alliance, with 14 members, is still the largest current electoral group. Not pictured in the above diagram, a previously independent speaker has been elected, who can break ties. It was perhaps a non-important vote given how one sided it was, but note that a lot of members didn't show during the speaker election. Parties should make sure they keep track of their members and try to keep voting activity up, to make sure their numbers are real and not just on paper.

Currently, 26 MPs are needed for a majority. Some possible coalitions include:

Right-Leaning Coalition
Liberal Alliance-NPP (24) plus any of C-P, KP, PFNS, CPC-AAP

Left-Leaning Coalition
Liberal Alliance-CP-CPCAAP-R (25) plus either PLP or CSWUSH

The size of the NPP makes it a very strong contender in coalition talks, but it will still be difficult for them to build an agreeable coalition excluding the Liberal Alliance.

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Postby Mersdon » Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:24 pm

Just a heads-up. Heinz might die soon, and be replaced with someone more... agreeable.
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NS Parliament Administrators
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Postby NS Parliament Administrators » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:16 pm

Rebels and Saints, regarding the incident in the Chamber, simply make sure you keep your own character's backstory within reason for an MP in a small Caribbean nation. You have not been officially warned because it is not a terrible violation. If you see anyone doing the same thing as you, feel free to let us know.

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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:20 pm

NS Parliament Administrators wrote:Rebels and Saints, regarding the incident in the Chamber, simply make sure you keep your own character's backstory within reason for an MP in a small Caribbean nation. You have not been officially warned because it is not a terrible violation. If you see anyone doing the same thing as you, feel free to let us know.

How rich can people be?
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Postby Rebels and Saints » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:44 pm

Mersdon wrote:Just a heads-up. Heinz might die soon, and be replaced with someone more... agreeable.


(No offense) I don't think anybody will be complaining. Out of curiosity, how will he be killed off?
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Postby The Union of the West » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:48 pm

Nation Name: The Union of the West
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Character Name (Optional, Add Full Profile In Database): TBD
Party (choose from existing parties or create one with the party application): TBD
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Postby Martune » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:16 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Nation Name: The Union of the West
History of Warnings, Bans, etc: N/A
Character Name (Optional, Add Full Profile In Database): TBD
Party (choose from existing parties or create one with the party application): TBD

oh please don't be on the left
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Postby Rebels and Saints » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:19 pm

Martune wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:
Nation Name: The Union of the West
History of Warnings, Bans, etc: N/A
Character Name (Optional, Add Full Profile In Database): TBD
Party (choose from existing parties or create one with the party application): TBD

oh please don't be on the left

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Postby The Union of the West » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:19 pm

Martune wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:
Nation Name: The Union of the West
History of Warnings, Bans, etc: N/A
Character Name (Optional, Add Full Profile In Database): TBD
Party (choose from existing parties or create one with the party application): TBD

oh please don't be on the left

Oh don't you worry...
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Postby Sankta Hilda Resistance » Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:19 pm

Party Name: Sankta Hilda Resistance
Ideology Summary: Pan-Nordism, Ethnic Nationalism, Monarchism, Anti-Americanism, Anti-Capitalism
Party Leader(s): Sven Löfgren (The Union of the West)
Party Abbreviation ("DP" for Democratic Party): SHR
Party Colors: Blue, Black
Party Members: Sven Löfgren (The Union of the West)
Full Party Platform: See Thread
Party Constitution: See Thread
Party Logo: See Thread

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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:00 am

Regarding Rebels and Saints’ warning, my character is a rich oligarch and CEO of a company worth $650 million. Can you check my database entry to see if it isn’t too much?
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“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Postby Rebels and Saints » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:22 am

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Regarding Rebels and Saints’ warning, my character is a rich oligarch and CEO of a company worth $650 million. Can you check my database entry to see if it isn’t too much?


Oh, and there you go. I was trying to avoid mentioning you so as to keep you from getting in trouble, but...
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:48 am

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
NS Parliament Administrators wrote:Rebels and Saints, regarding the incident in the Chamber, simply make sure you keep your own character's backstory within reason for an MP in a small Caribbean nation. You have not been officially warned because it is not a terrible violation. If you see anyone doing the same thing as you, feel free to let us know.

How rich can people be?


Probably not as rich as Jeff Bezos for starters.
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Postby Martune » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:07 am

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Regarding Rebels and Saints’ warning, my character is a rich oligarch and CEO of a company worth $650 million. Can you check my database entry to see if it isn’t too much?

I'll check it and talk with the others.
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