I don't think political corruption is exceptional.
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by Telconi » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:46 pm
by Valrifell » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:49 pm
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Valrifell wrote:
The Late Republic didn't really have rigid political factions so much as groups of people in alliances of convenience to get more power and/or cushy government jobs.
Not partisanship so much as corruption killed the Republic.
It still however had sides. Doesn't change the underlying assertion being made.
by Telconi » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:51 pm
Eternal Lotharia wrote:
....It destroys countries. Without USA do you honestly expect China, Iran, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Hungary, and Brazil not to use our collapse to justify to their people abandoning democracy and the international order, being outright openly racist and pieces of shit, and then go around invading everyone?
Not to mention the collapse of the world economy and billions starve to death!
We have a damn responsibility!
To paraphrase Bill Nye:
Is Freedom Free?
Of course not you idiots!
It's a huge responsibility!
I had no problem explaining photosynthesis to you when you were twelve!
Grow the fuck up!
Bill Nye out motherfuckers!
by Nakena » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:52 pm
Telconi wrote:Eternal Lotharia wrote:....It destroys countries. Without USA do you honestly expect China, Iran, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Hungary, and Brazil not to use our collapse to justify to their people abandoning democracy and the international order, being outright openly racist and pieces of shit, and then go around invading everyone?
Not to mention the collapse of the world economy and billions starve to death!
We have a damn responsibility!
To paraphrase Bill Nye:
Is Freedom Free?
Of course not you idiots!
It's a huge responsibility!
I had no problem explaining photosynthesis to you when you were twelve!
Grow the fuck up!
Bill Nye out motherfuckers!
Bullshit, I am not obligated to suffer for some idiotic nebulous responsibility.
by Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:53 pm
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Valrifell wrote:
It does tho. Since the Roman "sides" weren't exactly ideological. Both were fairly comfortable passing legislation the other would want to undermine their support and both worked together when reforms had to be done.
The partisanship is different in the US in that it's quite literally the opposite of that. It's "the other side is evil"
Not even to mention the comparison falls flatter when considering the literal gangs that would occasionally roam the streets of Rome to hound political opponents or the riots sparked by politicians. No, we're quite different.
>Charlottesville
>Antifa
>Neo-Nazi groups
>Trump losing in 2020 could mean civil war or severe gang violence
Also, it doesn't change how dangerous it is. The mobs were contributors to the fall not the cause of it.
by Telconi » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:54 pm
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by Nakena » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:56 pm
by Nakena » Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:09 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Eternal Lotharia wrote:
>Charlottesville
>Antifa
>Neo-Nazi groups
>Trump losing in 2020 could mean civil war or severe gang violence
Also, it doesn't change how dangerous it is. The mobs were contributors to the fall not the cause of it.
tbh no matter who wins in 2020 I'm predicting at least some violence
by Telconi » Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:10 pm
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by Telconi » Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:47 pm
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Telconi wrote:
Seems awfully selfish, waging a war that killed so many, throwing a big ol' wrench in the geopolitics of the day, all of that for personal benefit.
Chickens to Ostriches. This is far different and damaging, plus there are actually bad guys in the world. Nazi level bad guys(I.E. China, ISIS, Iran, Saudis, Hamas, Skrillex).
by Telconi » Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:50 pm
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