What would God have to do to convince YOU of His existence?

[Ard al Islam]

Hey, we're not debating the existence of God! Let's get back on topic.

[New Legland]

Hey, we're not debating the existence of God! Let's get back on topic.

Uh, I guess I would need something extraordinary that everyone can see to believe in any god is all I'm saying.

[Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners]

Presenting evidence of his omnipotence/omniscience, then giving a decent enough explanation why they're such an asshole.

https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/meaning

[LiberNovusAmericae]

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Jesus said to him, "Again, it is written,
‘You shall not test the Lord, your God.’"
Matthew 4:7

It is a shame that statement still means something to some. Do not ignore your critical thinking skills just because a book tells you to do so.

[Inkopolitia]

Jesus said to him, "Again, it is written,
‘You shall not test the Lord, your God.’"
Matthew 4:7

It is a shame that statement still means something to some. Do not ignore your critical thinking skills just because a book tells you to do so.

I mean, if God gave me a copy of Splatoon 3, i'd become a devout christian, no questions asked.

[Valrifell]

I'd be real convenient if he came down all dramatic-like on Pegasus or something, slapped me with a newly materialized fish and said "I'm God"

[Country of CityTowne]

Except there is no direct proof against deities. To say such a thing is absurd. There is no conclusive and irrefutable evidence that proves that there are no deities.

I don't think that's the point. The point is that evidence is much more effective in justifying a belief than faith is.

Hit the nail on the head with another nail that you hit on the head with a hammer.

[Thermodolia]

I'm already religious, but for me to be convinced of his existence I would probably have to go through a long journey of faith similar to the one I went through.

But my problem with God isn't his existence/lack thereof, it's his hypocrisy. My gods are not moral, hell, they're pretty fucking amoral. But this "Yahweh" guy acts a lot like some of the worse of my gods. He doesn't rape anybody, granted, but he still has sanctioned it. Everything else is also checked off.

Self-Servent and Jealous, Check
Murders, Check
Causes unborn babies to die, Check
Sends people he doesn't like to be burned in an eternal lake of fire, Check
Sanctions Rape, Check
Caused mass genocide, Check
And those are the ones I can think off the top of my head.

Yet he calls himself Omnibenevolent, in the sense that he is more moral than man. If anything, he's just as bad as Satan (who is also a douche, for the record).

Now, of course, if the bible isn't meant to be taken literally this changes everything. You go from an angry and vindictive god to a truly loving one, but if you don't take the bible seriously your religion becomes little more than a bunch of incohesive men and women who loosely believe in the same god, meaning that power structures wouldn't exist. And given the power of the Church, we can't have that now, can we?

In Judaism god is acknowledged to be a bit of a dick and he’s not Omnibenevolent

[Mestovakia]

Jesus said to him, "Again, it is written,
‘You shall not test the Lord, your God.’"
Matthew 4:7

But I am not testing Him, as said I already believe that He exists. I am asking you how you would be convinced by God. This is a thought experiement to get you to think of what you believe in. This is not the process of me asking for proof. Your out-of-context Bible verse will not hide your cop-out answer, and will not shield your unwillingness to answer the question

Personally I don't care. I just wanted to use a bible quote. I don't care if he provides proof or not because I'm not exactly a shining example of worshipper. If he provides proof I'd be thinking 'Wow. Ok.' And just go on with my day.

[Hammer Britannia]

I'm already religious, but for me to be convinced of his existence I would probably have to go through a long journey of faith similar to the one I went through.

But my problem with God isn't his existence/lack thereof, it's his hypocrisy. My gods are not moral, hell, they're pretty fucking amoral. But this "Yahweh" guy acts a lot like some of the worse of my gods. He doesn't rape anybody, granted, but he still has sanctioned it. Everything else is also checked off.

Self-Servent and Jealous, Check
Murders, Check
Causes unborn babies to die, Check
Sends people he doesn't like to be burned in an eternal lake of fire, Check
Sanctions Rape, Check
Caused mass genocide, Check
And those are the ones I can think off the top of my head.

Yet he calls himself Omnibenevolent, in the sense that he is more moral than man. If anything, he's just as bad as Satan (who is also a douche, for the record).

Now, of course, if the bible isn't meant to be taken literally this changes everything. You go from an angry and vindictive god to a truly loving one, but if you don't take the bible seriously your religion becomes little more than a bunch of incohesive men and women who loosely believe in the same god, meaning that power structures wouldn't exist. And given the power of the Church, we can't have that now, can we?

In Judaism god is acknowledged to be a bit of a dick and he’s not Omnibenevolent

I understand that, I just realized that most (at least, the ones who will take me seriously anyways) are Christians who believe in an Omnibenevolent god yet take the Bible to be literal.

[Hammer Britannia]

I'd be real convenient if he came down all dramatic-like on Pegasus or something, slapped me with a newly materialized fish and said "I'm God"

What if he slaps you with a Lizard?

[Ethel mermania]

I'm already religious, but for me to be convinced of his existence I would probably have to go through a long journey of faith similar to the one I went through.

But my problem with God isn't his existence/lack thereof, it's his hypocrisy. My gods are not moral, hell, they're pretty fucking amoral. But this "Yahweh" guy acts a lot like some of the worse of my gods. He doesn't rape anybody, granted, but he still has sanctioned it. Everything else is also checked off.

Self-Servent and Jealous, Check
Murders, Check
Causes unborn babies to die, Check
Sends people he doesn't like to be burned in an eternal lake of fire, Check
Sanctions Rape, Check
Caused mass genocide, Check
And those are the ones I can think off the top of my head.

Yet he calls himself Omnibenevolent, in the sense that he is more moral than man. If anything, he's just as bad as Satan (who is also a douche, for the record).

Now, of course, if the bible isn't meant to be taken literally this changes everything. You go from an angry and vindictive god to a truly loving one, but if you don't take the bible seriously your religion becomes little more than a bunch of incohesive men and women who loosely believe in the same god, meaning that power structures wouldn't exist. And given the power of the Church, we can't have that now, can we?

In Judaism god is acknowledged to be a bit of a dick and he’s not Omnibenevolent

I don’t know that we say he is a bit of a dick.... but he is a righteous and angry god.

[Valrifell]

I'd be real convenient if he came down all dramatic-like on Pegasus or something, slapped me with a newly materialized fish and said "I'm God"

What if he slaps you with a Lizard?

That's what separates God from Satan

[Hammer Britannia]

In Judaism god is acknowledged to be a bit of a dick and he’s not Omnibenevolent

I don’t know that we say he is a bit of a dick.... but he is a righteous and angry god.

Righteously angry, like my father.

[Arcturus Novus]

He wouldn't have to do anything. I already believe in Him.

[Ethel mermania]

I don’t know that we say he is a bit of a dick.... but he is a righteous and angry god.

Righteously angry, like my father.

Can make a fellow or a godhead a bit. ... hasty, i will admit.

[Thermodolia]

In Judaism god is acknowledged to be a bit of a dick and he’s not Omnibenevolent

I don’t know that we say he is a bit of a dick.... but he is a righteous and angry god.

Oh that’s just me. I can’t spell for shit so “a bit of a dick” works

[Highever]

I don't think that's the point. The point is that evidence is much more effective in justifying a belief than faith is.

Hit the nail on the head with another nail that you hit on the head with a hammer.

And as I said those that beielve have all the proof they need.

[Kowani]

Hit the nail on the head with another nail that you hit on the head with a hammer.

And as I said those that beielve have all the proof they need.

Cause nobody’s ever deconverted from any religion to atheism/agnosticism…

[Highever]

And as I said those that beielve have all the proof they need.

Cause nobody’s ever deconverted from any religion to atheism/agnosticism…

I....never said that? Or that their minds couldn't change? Isnt that how changing your mind about anything works? You become swayed based on evidence?

[Kowani]

Cause nobody’s ever deconverted from any religion to atheism/agnosticism…

I....never said that? Or that their minds couldn't change? Isnt that how changing your mind about anything works? You become swayed based on evidence?

Yes. And therefore faith alone is not enough.

[Highever]

I....never said that? Or that their minds couldn't change? Isnt that how changing your mind about anything works? You become swayed based on evidence?

Yes. And therefore faith alone is not enough.

And what of those that convert to a religion from previous held atheism? Or from one religion to another?

[Neanderthaland]

Presumably an omnipotent God would know exactly what it would have to do to prove itself indisputably to absolutely everyone.

[US-SSR]

Have my wife conceive and bear a child.

P.S. She has no uterus.

P.P.S. On second thought, at that point that would just be showing off...

P.P.P.S. How do you know God is a He?

[Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners]

Presumably an omnipotent God would know exactly what it would have to do to prove itself indisputably to absolutely everyone.

Invent the babelfish?