Hundreds quarantined for measles in 2 CA universities.

[The Rich Port]

Leave this country or stay out of it.

We don't have fuckin' measles, now, do we?

[Chernoslavia]

Nice strawman.

You're the one denying the effectiveness of vaccines, Chern, or am I wrong in reading your very words?

You are wrong. I suggest you go back to my post and read it more carefully next time.

[Chernoslavia]

Nope.

Why would you rather die along with hundreds of millions of others and allow the further spread of the pandemic instead of getting the vaccine that would prevent you and billions of others from dying and stop the spread of the pandemic?

Come back when you're finished making fallacies.

[Chernoslavia]

Cool, just don't bitch and call them terrorists when you meet armed resistance.

See this is what I mean by outlandish claims. And if you want a war I’ll give you one. The full might of the state vs a terrorist group. I wonder who will win.

Ah “libertarians” always destroying the thing they love the most because of their own stupidity.

Not outlandish at all, if government oversteps their authority it is only natural for insurrections to happen in a country where they value them the most. Okay cool, come and get me then tough guy, make this fun for us. And what makes you think you'll have the ''full might of the state'' backing you up?

[Karevka]

It's scary how how ten years ago everyone was trusted and believed in medical science and now some literally think that a vaccination will give your kid autism. Some even take it further and use treatments that do nothing at all. I heard on CBC radio a while back that a woman was convicted of negligence after her son died because she didn't get him proper medical care for his strep infection, instead giving him herbal tea. She had good intentions I know and I believe that she did but you should take your sick kid to the doctor rather than giving tea made from dandelions.

Source:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/tamara-lovett-ryan-failing-provide-necessaries-trial-decision-1.3947694

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Why would you rather die along with hundreds of millions of others and allow the further spread of the pandemic instead of getting the vaccine that would prevent you and billions of others from dying and stop the spread of the pandemic?

Come back when you're finished making fallacies.

I sense that you’d very likely change your tune really quick if there was another Spanish flu-level pandemic that killed hundreds of millions of people and the governments of the world mandated vaccination programs to stop it.

Nope.

Literally implying that you’d rather let humanity suffer and die in the event of a global pandemic instead of letting the government mandate vaccination programs to end the pandemic.

[Chernoslavia]

Come back when you're finished making fallacies.

Nope.

Literally implying that you’d rather let humanity suffer and die in the event of a global pandemic instead of letting the government mandate vaccination programs to end the pandemic.

You're the one implying I'd rather die than get vaccinated when *hint* *hint* I'm not even anti-vax.

[Gormwood]

Literally implying that you’d rather let humanity suffer and die in the event of a global pandemic instead of letting the government mandate vaccination programs to end the pandemic.

You're the one implying I'd rather die than get vaccinated when *hint* *hint* I'm not even anti-vax.

Quack quack.

[Chernoslavia]

You're the one implying I'd rather die than get vaccinated when *hint* *hint* I'm not even anti-vax.

Quack quack.

[Highever]

Literally implying that you’d rather let humanity suffer and die in the event of a global pandemic instead of letting the government mandate vaccination programs to end the pandemic.

You're the one implying I'd rather die than get vaccinated when *hint* *hint* I'm not even anti-vax.

Its really not implying when you....quite literally said exactly that.

You're not antivax yet support and actually think that a widespread armed insurrection would occur if inoculations became mandatory. Yeah okay.

[Chernoslavia]

You're the one implying I'd rather die than get vaccinated when *hint* *hint* I'm not even anti-vax.

Its really not implying when you....quite literally said exactly that.

You're not antivax yet support and actually think that a widespread armed insurrection would occur if inoculations became mandatory. Yeah okay.

Prove it.

And what makes you think they won't? There's already many dissent against the thought of mandatory vaccinations.

[Sanctum and Ultima]

Its really not implying when you....quite literally said exactly that.

You're not antivax yet support and actually think that a widespread armed insurrection would occur if inoculations became mandatory. Yeah okay.

Prove it.

And what makes you think they won't? There's already many dissent against the thought of mandatory vaccinations.

Yeah, and that dissent is from people that gets facts about vaccines wrong. Go drink some vodka or something instead of trolling NSG.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Literally implying that you’d rather let humanity suffer and die in the event of a global pandemic instead of letting the government mandate vaccination programs to end the pandemic.

You're the one implying I'd rather die than get vaccinated when *hint* *hint* I'm not even anti-vax.

Then you’re going to need to seriously elaborate on the meaning of your “nope” in reply to me saying that you’d change your tune on mandatory vaccination programs in the event of another major Spanish-flu level pandemic, because it seems to be that your “nope” was saying “I’m so against mandatory vaccination that’d I’d be against it even if tens/hundreds of millions were dead and dying and the only way stopping it was mandatory vaccination”.

[Chernoslavia]

Prove it.

And what makes you think they won't? There's already many dissent against the thought of mandatory vaccinations.

Yeah, and that dissent is from people that gets facts about vaccines wrong. Go drink some vodka or something instead of trolling NSG.

And from people who don't think government should have the power to forcibly drag people out of their homes and pump fluids into their bodies. Also, that's racist bro, it's the current year. Besides, I prefer bourbon more.

[Sanctum and Ultima]

Yeah, and that dissent is from people that gets facts about vaccines wrong. Go drink some vodka or something instead of trolling NSG.

And from people who don't think government should have the power to forcibly drag people out of their homes and pump fluids into their bodies. Also, that's racist bro, it's the current year. Besides, I prefer bourbon more.

What if those fluids were harmless and it helps the people?

[Chernoslavia]

You're the one implying I'd rather die than get vaccinated when *hint* *hint* I'm not even anti-vax.

Then you’re going to need to seriously elaborate on the meaning of your “nope” in reply to me saying that you’d change your tune on mandatory vaccination programs in the event of another major Spanish-flu level pandemic, because it seems to be that your “nope” was saying “I’m so against mandatory vaccination that’d I’d be against it even if tens/hundreds of millions were dead and dying and the only way stopping it was mandatory vaccination”.

I would get vaccinated if it means I'll die from infection if I don't, that doesn't mean however that I'm for forcing people to get them. You can knock it off with the ''either this or'' crap.

[Chernoslavia]

And from people who don't think government should have the power to forcibly drag people out of their homes and pump fluids into their bodies. Also, that's racist bro, it's the current year. Besides, I prefer bourbon more.

What if those fluids were harmless and it helps the people?

I'm not saying they're harmful though.

[Kowani]

Then you’re going to need to seriously elaborate on the meaning of your “nope” in reply to me saying that you’d change your tune on mandatory vaccination programs in the event of another major Spanish-flu level pandemic, because it seems to be that your “nope” was saying “I’m so against mandatory vaccination that’d I’d be against it even if tens/hundreds of millions were dead and dying and the only way stopping it was mandatory vaccination”.

I would get vaccinated if it means I'll die from infection if I don't, that doesn't mean however that I'm for forcing people to get them. You can knock it off with the ''either this or'' crap.

And if not forcing people would cause others to die?

[Sanctum and Ultima]

What if those fluids were harmless and it helps the people?

I'm not saying they're harmful though.

Well, how about the fact that parents who are denying doctors to do one of their duties, which is vaccinating every child in the nation are literally killing children?

[Chernoslavia]

I would get vaccinated if it means I'll die from infection if I don't, that doesn't mean however that I'm for forcing people to get them. You can knock it off with the ''either this or'' crap.

And if not forcing people would cause others to die?

This is starting to sound like the occasional ''what if people die'' argument for banning guns.

[Highever]

Its really not implying when you....quite literally said exactly that.

You're not antivax yet support and actually think that a widespread armed insurrection would occur if inoculations became mandatory. Yeah okay.

Prove it.

And what makes you think they won't? There's already many dissent against the thought of mandatory vaccinations.

That whole bit about not changing your mind even if it would prevent millions of desth?

They won't. Or if there are actually people that insane who would actively raise arms and kill people to defend their right to be a needless risk to others it is incredibly small. 99% of the whackjobs that ignore basic science and clear evidence are going to take their fight to court, not the battlefield. And those few that do are not going to be any sort of threat. Hell, you send in a negotiator contaminated with measles in some way and there you go. "Insurrection" over.

[Kowani]

And if not forcing people would cause others to die?

This is starting to sound like the occasional ''what if people die'' argument for banning guns.

Except there’s a provable link and no extenuating circumstances that have larger effects-and guns have tangible upsides.

[Chernoslavia]

Prove it.

And what makes you think they won't? There's already many dissent against the thought of mandatory vaccinations.

That whole bit about not changing your mind even if it would prevent millions of desth?

They won't. Or if there are actually people that insane who would actively raise arms and kill people to defend their right to be a needless risk to others it is incredibly small. 99% of the whackjobs that ignore basic science and clear evidence are going to take their fight to court, not the battlefield. And those few that do are not going to be any sort of threat. Hell, you send in a negotiator contaminated with measles in some way and there you go. "Insurrection" over.

That's not me saying I'd rather die.

I'm sure that initially they will take it to court but militias have been training for decades in case something like this happens, so yes they will resist, and government will not have the resources to enforce such laws and suppress dissent.

[Highever]

That whole bit about not changing your mind even if it would prevent millions of desth?

They won't. Or if there are actually people that insane who would actively raise arms and kill people to defend their right to be a needless risk to others it is incredibly small. 99% of the whackjobs that ignore basic science and clear evidence are going to take their fight to court, not the battlefield. And those few that do are not going to be any sort of threat. Hell, you send in a negotiator contaminated with measles in some way and there you go. "Insurrection" over.

That's not me saying I'd rather die.

I'm sure that initially they will take it to court but militias have been training for decades in case something like this happens, so yes they will resist, and government will not have the resources to enforce such laws and suppress dissent.

Again, the few tiny groups that would actually be willing to get themselves killed fighting the government over vaccines are not going to pose some sort of revolutionary threat or be so numerous as to be completely unmanageable. I dont know why you have such a fervent fantasy of seeing this be a thing but I'm sorry to tell you it really won't be.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Then you’re going to need to seriously elaborate on the meaning of your “nope” in reply to me saying that you’d change your tune on mandatory vaccination programs in the event of another major Spanish-flu level pandemic, because it seems to be that your “nope” was saying “I’m so against mandatory vaccination that’d I’d be against it even if tens/hundreds of millions were dead and dying and the only way stopping it was mandatory vaccination”.

I would get vaccinated if it means I'll die from infection if I don't, that doesn't mean however that I'm for forcing people to get them. You can knock it off with the ''either this or'' crap.

Yet the most efficient way of dealing with a pandemic would be government mandated vaccination in order to halt and prevent further spread of the disease.