2019 US Miscellaneous Election Thread

[San Lumen]

First and foremost, GOP hold State College-Susquehanna, Keller has over 70% of the vote with 53% in.

The state-level byelections are also GOP holds.

In Kentucky, Incumbent GOP Governor Matt Bevin will be going up against Democratic Attorney General Andy Beshear in what looks like an uphill climb for Bevin to stay in office.

As for next week, there are no votes next week...so, yeah. Nothing until June 4, and I'll have that up this time next week.

All expected. Very red turf that has not voted Democrat in many years.
Jim Kenney won his primary and is almost certain to crush attorney Billy Ciancaglini in November

Philadelphia also held primaries for city council. For the at large seats they use a system called limited voting but im not sure i understand it.

There will be five winners from the Democratic and Republican primaries. In November there will be seven winners. How does this system work? Im confused

[Shrillland]

First and foremost, GOP hold State College-Susquehanna, Keller has over 70% of the vote with 53% in.

The state-level byelections are also GOP holds.

In Kentucky, Incumbent GOP Governor Matt Bevin will be going up against Democratic Attorney General Andy Beshear in what looks like an uphill climb for Bevin to stay in office.

As for next week, there are no votes next week...so, yeah. Nothing until June 4, and I'll have that up this time next week.

All expected. Very red turf that has not voted Democrat in many years.
Jim Kenney won his primary and is almost certain to crush attorney Billy Ciancaglini in November

Philadelphia also held primaries for city council. For the at large seats they use a system called limited voting but im not sure i understand it.

There will be five winners from the Democratic and Republican primaries. In November there will be seven winners. How does this system work? Im confused

Oh, it's just like voting for a school board here. The Democrats and Republicans will each choose five candidates to go to November, and the top seven vote-getters among them win the seats.

[San Lumen]

All expected. Very red turf that has not voted Democrat in many years.
Jim Kenney won his primary and is almost certain to crush attorney Billy Ciancaglini in November

Philadelphia also held primaries for city council. For the at large seats they use a system called limited voting but im not sure i understand it.

There will be five winners from the Democratic and Republican primaries. In November there will be seven winners. How does this system work? Im confused

Oh, it's just like voting for a school board here. The Democrats and Republicans will each choose five candidates to go to November, and the top seven vote-getters among them win the seats.

but the Republicans are guaranteed of winning at least two seats or something like that? Isnt that the point of it that is guarantees the opposition party seats?

[Shrillland]

Oh, it's just like voting for a school board here. The Democrats and Republicans will each choose five candidates to go to November, and the top seven vote-getters among them win the seats.

but the Republicans are guaranteed of winning at least two seats or something like that? Isnt that the point of it that is guarantees the opposition party seats?

Well, since it's an at-large election, they're trying to make it as representative of the populace as possible. Philly may be deep blue, but there are still some Republicans there.

[San Lumen]

but the Republicans are guaranteed of winning at least two seats or something like that? Isnt that the point of it that is guarantees the opposition party seats?

Well, since it's an at-large election, they're trying to make it as representative of the populace as possible. Philly may be deep blue, but there are still some Republicans there.

Per the city charter no party can hold more than five at large seats on the city council. If I understand it correctly the five Democrats who emerge from the primary will almost certainly win and two Republicans will win.

So in theory one can cast a ballot for all five democrats and not vote for any republicans? Am I understanding it correctly?

also in a big upset incumbent Philadelphia Sheriff Jewell Williams lost his bid for a third term to former police officer Rochelle Bilal

[Shrillland]

Well, since it's an at-large election, they're trying to make it as representative of the populace as possible. Philly may be deep blue, but there are still some Republicans there.

Per the city charter no party can hold more than five at large seats on the city council. If I understand it correctly the five Democrats who emerge from the primary will almost certainly win and two Republicans will win.

So in theory one can cast a ballot for all five democrats and not vote for any republicans? Am I understanding it correctly?

also in a big upset incumbent Philadelphia Sheriff Jewell Williams lost his bid for a third term to former police officer Rochelle Bilal

In theory, yes. The ballot probably says vote for seven on it, but you can vote for any number up to that and it'll still be counted.

[San Lumen]

Per the city charter no party can hold more than five at large seats on the city council. If I understand it correctly the five Democrats who emerge from the primary will almost certainly win and two Republicans will win.

So in theory one can cast a ballot for all five democrats and not vote for any republicans? Am I understanding it correctly?

also in a big upset incumbent Philadelphia Sheriff Jewell Williams lost his bid for a third term to former police officer Rochelle Bilal

In theory, yes. The ballot probably says vote for seven on it, but you can vote for any number up to that and it'll still be counted.

ah so its like here when we vote for Supreme Court judges and it says vote for any seven. We will be voting for it November. There are 13 districts across the state and there will be elections in all of them. Judges are elected to 10 year terms i believe

(For those who dont know the Supreme Court is not the highest court in New York. Its a criminal court. The highest court is the Court of Appeals and its appointed by the Governor.)

[Shrillland]

Yet another amendment from Texas going to the Plaza today.

Texas will also be voting on an amendment that would dedicate all sporting goods sales tax revenue to the state Parks and Wildlife Department and the Texas Historical Commission. Currently, the Legislature decide how much tax money goes to them. Texas seldom refuses these, so it'll likely pass.

[San Lumen]

Yet another amendment from Texas going to the Plaza today.

Texas will also be voting on an amendment that would dedicate all sporting goods sales tax revenue to the state Parks and Wildlife Department and the Texas Historical Commission. Currently, the Legislature decide how much tax money goes to them. Texas seldom refuses these, so it'll likely pass.

I think that's a wonderful idea. Why would anyone be against that?

And was I correct in comparing at the at large city council election in Philadelphia to Supreme Court elections in New York? The reason I ask is im trying to make sure i understating limited voting as this is the first time I've heard of it.

[Shrillland]

Yet another amendment from Texas going to the Plaza today.

Texas will also be voting on an amendment that would dedicate all sporting goods sales tax revenue to the state Parks and Wildlife Department and the Texas Historical Commission. Currently, the Legislature decide how much tax money goes to them. Texas seldom refuses these, so it'll likely pass.

I think that's a wonderful idea. Why would anyone be against that?

And was I correct in comparing at the at large city council council election in Philadelphia to Supreme Court elections in New York? The reason I ask is im trying to make sure i understating limited voting as this is the first time I've heard of it.

Yes, that's about right.

[Pasong Tirad]

Apparently Joey "I was being a Nazi ironically" Salads is running for congress as a guy that fucks.

[Duhon]

Apparently Joey "I was being a Nazi ironically" Salads is running for congress as a guy that fucks.

So with sadness in my heart
I feel the best thing I could do
is end it all and leave forever

[Gormwood]

Apparently Joey "I was being a Nazi ironically" Salads is running for congress as a guy that fucks.

Because we need yet another wannabe mobster in the U.S. government.

[Arlenton]

gerrymandering should be illegal

It is, but the catch is that you have sue to prove it. And those who gerrymander argue that it isn't as part of their defense. Pennsylvania got its congressional districts redrawn because of a court order as the result of a lawsuit.

In many cases, gerrymandering is legally required by the voting rights act.

[Shrillland]

It is, but the catch is that you have sue to prove it. And those who gerrymander argue that it isn't as part of their defense. Pennsylvania got its congressional districts redrawn because of a court order as the result of a lawsuit.

In many cases, gerrymandering is legally required by the voting rights act.

Not exactly. It says that you can't draw districts that deliberately dilute minority populations, but Easley v. Cromartie said that gerrymandering a district to be safe for a party was not automatically racial just because a party's supporters disproportionately came from a minority group.

[Arlenton]

First and foremost, GOP hold State College-Susquehanna, Keller has over 70% of the vote with 53% in.

The state-level byelections are also GOP holds.

In Kentucky, Incumbent GOP Governor Matt Bevin will be going up against Democratic Attorney General Andy Beshear in what looks like an uphill climb for Bevin to stay in office.

As for next week, there are no votes next week...so, yeah. Nothing until June 4, and I'll have that up this time next week.

I think Bevin's gunna win. Sure Beshear will do better in some urban areas, but unlike in 2015 he'll get get crushed in rural areas and coal country. Honestly wouldn't be surprised if Beshear loses Elliot county. This race reminds me of the 2018 TN senate race where Bredesen lost every single ancestrally Dem rural white county despite winning them in the past.

[Shrillland]

First and foremost, GOP hold State College-Susquehanna, Keller has over 70% of the vote with 53% in.

The state-level byelections are also GOP holds.

In Kentucky, Incumbent GOP Governor Matt Bevin will be going up against Democratic Attorney General Andy Beshear in what looks like an uphill climb for Bevin to stay in office.

As for next week, there are no votes next week...so, yeah. Nothing until June 4, and I'll have that up this time next week.

I think Bevin's gunna win. Sure Beshear will do better in some urban areas, but unlike in 2015 he'll get get crushed in rural areas and coal country. Honestly wouldn't be surprised if Beshear loses Elliot county. This race reminds me of the 2018 TN senate race where Bredesen lost every single ancestrally Dem rural white county despite winning them in the past.

That's because he did badly in the debates and Blackburn was successful in reminding them of what his win would mean on the national level. Kentucky doesn't really have that situation being an off-year race. Weirdly enough, whenever the Kentucky Legislature proposes switching to an even-numbered year, it's the Democrats that are opposed to it because they know that they couldn't win if they couldn't separate commonwealth issues from national ones.

Right now, Beshear's ahead by 10 points, and his family name's well-loved. He could probably win by just standing up for coal country despite what the national party would think.

[Arlenton]

In many cases, gerrymandering is legally required by the voting rights act.

Not exactly. It says that you can't draw districts that deliberately dilute minority populations, but Easley v. Cromartie said that gerrymandering a district to be safe for a party was not automatically racial just because a party's supporters disproportionately came from a minority group.

Intentionally creating minority-majority districts is gerrymandering.

The VRA requires this.

[Arlenton]

I think Bevin's gunna win. Sure Beshear will do better in some urban areas, but unlike in 2015 he'll get get crushed in rural areas and coal country. Honestly wouldn't be surprised if Beshear loses Elliot county. This race reminds me of the 2018 TN senate race where Bredesen lost every single ancestrally Dem rural white county despite winning them in the past.

That's because he did badly in the debates and Blackburn was successful in reminding them of what his win would mean on the national level. Kentucky doesn't really have that situation being an off-year race. Weirdly enough, whenever the Kentucky Legislature proposes switching to an even-numbered year, it's the Democrats that are opposed to it because they know that they couldn't win if they couldn't separate commonwealth issues from national ones.

Right now, Beshear's ahead by 10 points, and his family name's well-loved. He could probably win by just standing up for coal country despite what the national party would think.

Because Kentucky polling is great. Ask Governor Conway.

[Shrillland]

Not exactly. It says that you can't draw districts that deliberately dilute minority populations, but Easley v. Cromartie said that gerrymandering a district to be safe for a party was not automatically racial just because a party's supporters disproportionately came from a minority group.

Intentionally creating minority-majority districts is gerrymandering.

The VRA requires this.

Section 2 only says that minority votes can't be unnecessarily diluted, it doesn't automatically require that they be given districts. Section 5 is practically defunct since Shelby Count v. Holder. Section 2 and the interpretation from Thornburg v. Gingles does preclude at-large or straight up PR systems, but that's different from saying that there absolutely have to be minority-majority districts.

[Arlenton]

Intentionally creating minority-majority districts is gerrymandering.

The VRA requires this.

Section 2 only says that minority votes can't be unnecessarily diluted, it doesn't automatically require that they be given districts. Section 5 is practically defunct since Shelby Count v. Holder. Section 2 and the interpretation from Thornburg v. Gingles does preclude at-large or straight up PR systems, but that's different from saying that there absolutely have to be minority-majority districts.

I thought that according to Section 2, if there is racially polarized voting and a minority-majority districts can be drawn, then it must be drawn.

http://www.publicmapping.org/what-is-redistricting/redistricting-criteria-the-voting-rights-act

[Shrillland]

Section 2 only says that minority votes can't be unnecessarily diluted, it doesn't automatically require that they be given districts. Section 5 is practically defunct since Shelby Count v. Holder. Section 2 and the interpretation from Thornburg v. Gingles does preclude at-large or straight up PR systems, but that's different from saying that there absolutely have to be minority-majority districts.

I thought that according to Section 2, if there is racially polarized voting and a minority-majority districts can be drawn, then it must be drawn.

http://www.publicmapping.org/what-is-redistricting/redistricting-criteria-the-voting-rights-act

Yes, I see what you mean. Even so, there are places, such as the Illinois district that's used as an example, where this wouldn't necessarily apply since the areas are so heavily leaning towards one party that the race of the candidate that wins isn't particularly relevant. Hell, you and I are both from here and know this already.

[Shrillland]

Another amendment from Texas hits the Plaza.

Voters will also consider an amendment to create the Texas Flood Infrastructure Fund, which would be used by the Water Development Board to fund things such as drainage projects, canals, levees, and river walls. No projection yet.

[San Lumen]

Another amendment from Texas hits the Plaza.

Voters will also consider an amendment to create the Texas Flood Infrastructure Fund, which would be used by the Water Development Board to fund things such as drainage projects, canals, levees, and river walls. No projection yet.

Seems like a reasonable amendment. I dont see why anyone would be against that.

[Shrillland]

On the last day that they could put things on, Texas added two more Amendments to the Plaza.

The ninth proposal would amend the constitution to allow the Water Development Board to issue $200 million in bonds to develop water, sewer, and drainage projects in economically distressed areas. I think it could pass.

Proposal number ten would amend the constitution to allow the legislature to allow cities and counties to offer temporary property tax exemptions in state disaster areas. I actually see this one passing easily.