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by Ostroeuropa » Tue May 21, 2019 6:31 am
by Dumb Ideologies » Tue May 21, 2019 6:44 am
Ifreann wrote:A spectre is haunting Britain. The spectre of Tony Blair.
by The Blaatschapen » Tue May 21, 2019 6:48 am
by Philjia » Tue May 21, 2019 6:55 am
by The Xenopolis Confederation » Tue May 21, 2019 6:57 am
by Definitely Not Trumptonium » Tue May 21, 2019 7:31 am
Fartsniffage wrote:Aclion wrote:Can someone translate this to American?
Thatcher right hand man and arch-Conservative, who is now a Lord, said in an interview that he would vote for the Lib Dem candidate in his area for the European Parliament because he still believes that the UK should remain in Europe.
The Conservative party have suspended him from the whip so he will now have to sit in the House of Lords as an Independent, not a Conservative.
by Hirota » Tue May 21, 2019 7:37 am
Fun fact, I was about this close to actually going to Iraq. At the time I worked for a Petrochemical company who were pulling out of the country after the invasion.
by The Blaatschapen » Tue May 21, 2019 7:44 am
by Hurdergaryp » Tue May 21, 2019 7:56 am
by Thermodolia » Tue May 21, 2019 8:05 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:Heseltine has jumped ship from the Conservatives to the Lib Dems.
We may be witnessing the exodus of the wet Tories in a way that will spell the downfall of the oldest political party in the world. The Tory hard brexiteers will either wrest total control over the party, or the supermajority of Tory voters will flip to Brex.
In order to wrest total control, the Wet Tories have to leave the party. But those Tories?
Those are the ones that make the Conservative Party a viable party. Without them, they aren't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wets_and_driesGilmour was the most outspoken, delivering a lecture at Cambridge in February 1980 where he argued: "In the Conservative view, economic liberalism à la Professor Hayek, because of its starkness and its failure to create a sense of community, is not a safeguard of political freedom but a threat to it.
Been a long time coming, but maybe, just maybe, Thatchers bullshit has come home to roost and the Tories are basically done for.
Also lol. Whats this?
Stuffy posh people and Communitarians vS Libertarians and "The Monday Club"? I wonder what the connection between those last two is. I keep getting told libertarians aren't racist.
"We're libertarians. Also, keep the empire, increase military spending, crack down on these rebels. Also, no darkies in our country thankyou."
by Fartsniffage » Tue May 21, 2019 8:13 am
by Thermodolia » Tue May 21, 2019 8:14 am
Conserative Morality wrote:Fartsniffage wrote:Well just try to avoid lumping pilots, police, military in general, underwater workers, workers in loud environments, and the deaf in there with the racists.
This isn't the cold war, people aren't really using a hand signal to identify with each other in the real world. They just have a blog.
Don't be so certain. The percentage of Americans who are neonazis and neonazi sympathizers is skyrocketing. It's not shaping up to be a cold war, but a civil one.
by Ifreann » Tue May 21, 2019 8:17 am
Fartsniffage wrote:Brexit people "Throwing milkshakes is suppression of speech. Come and debate us."
Same Brexit people "Channel 4 news are political activists and are banned from all our events."
by Thermodolia » Tue May 21, 2019 8:18 am
by Ostroeuropa » Tue May 21, 2019 8:41 am
by Ostroeuropa » Tue May 21, 2019 8:51 am
Ifreann wrote:Go home, ChUK, you're drunk.
by Hurdergaryp » Tue May 21, 2019 8:51 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:The CUKs have some new policies out and boy howdy are they as good as the name and their logo.
Firstly they want to charge people for using self-check outs because old people supposedly don't know how to use them and it's causing check out segregation, and that's bad, that's the kind of division that caused Brexit. So what we should do, is all use the same checkouts or pay a fee to self-checkout. and then, when you're in line for your shopping, engage in friendly political conversation with elderly people doing their shopping, like a normal person.
Second, they want a day where headphones are banned so we have to talk to eachother. (screams internally).
And third, they want people to volunteer a certain amount every month in exchange for tax breaks. (Well intentioned maybe, but just think about this for two moments to realize which class will disproportionately benefit here.).
This is hell.
This is what hell looks like.
Like, just put the first two policies on a bill board and you can practically hear the nations asshole clench shut.
Now we know who those people on the bus who try to talk to strangers are. They're CUK voters. This untapped demographic will surely be the edge the party needs.
by The Archregimancy » Tue May 21, 2019 8:54 am
Thermodolia wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:Heseltine has jumped ship from the Conservatives to the Lib Dems.
We may be witnessing the exodus of the wet Tories in a way that will spell the downfall of the oldest political party in the world. The Tory hard brexiteers will either wrest total control over the party, or the supermajority of Tory voters will flip to Brex.
In order to wrest total control, the Wet Tories have to leave the party. But those Tories?
Those are the ones that make the Conservative Party a viable party. Without them, they aren't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wets_and_dries
Been a long time coming, but maybe, just maybe, Thatchers bullshit has come home to roost and the Tories are basically done for.
Also lol. Whats this?
Stuffy posh people and Communitarians vS Libertarians and "The Monday Club"? I wonder what the connection between those last two is. I keep getting told libertarians aren't racist.
"We're libertarians. Also, keep the empire, increase military spending, crack down on these rebels. Also, no darkies in our country thankyou."
Actually the Democrats in the US are the oldest still active political party in the world being founded in 1828 compared to the conservatives founding of 1834
by Liriena » Tue May 21, 2019 9:09 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:The CUKs have some new policies out and boy howdy are they as good as the name and their logo.
Firstly they want to charge people for using self-check outs because old people supposedly don't know how to use them and it's causing check out segregation, and that's bad, that's the kind of division that caused Brexit. So what we should do, is all use the same checkouts or pay a fee to self-checkout. and then, when you're in line for your shopping, engage in friendly political conversation with elderly people doing their shopping, like a normal person.
Second, they want a day where headphones are banned so we have to talk to eachother. (screams internally).
And third, they want people to volunteer a certain amount every month in exchange for tax breaks. (Well intentioned maybe, but just think about this for two moments to realize which class will disproportionately benefit here.).
This is hell.
This is what hell looks like.
Like, just put the first two policies on a bill board and you can practically hear the nations asshole clench shut.
Now we know who those people on the bus who try to talk to strangers are. They're CUK voters. This untapped demographic will surely be the edge the party needs.
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by Ostroeuropa » Tue May 21, 2019 9:15 am
Liriena wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:The CUKs have some new policies out and boy howdy are they as good as the name and their logo.
Firstly they want to charge people for using self-check outs because old people supposedly don't know how to use them and it's causing check out segregation, and that's bad, that's the kind of division that caused Brexit. So what we should do, is all use the same checkouts or pay a fee to self-checkout. and then, when you're in line for your shopping, engage in friendly political conversation with elderly people doing their shopping, like a normal person.
Second, they want a day where headphones are banned so we have to talk to eachother. (screams internally).
And third, they want people to volunteer a certain amount every month in exchange for tax breaks. (Well intentioned maybe, but just think about this for two moments to realize which class will disproportionately benefit here.).
This is hell.
This is what hell looks like.
Like, just put the first two policies on a bill board and you can practically hear the nations asshole clench shut.
Now we know who those people on the bus who try to talk to strangers are. They're CUK voters. This untapped demographic will surely be the edge the party needs.
Are we absolutely sure that CUK is not a bunch of Corbynite astroturfers doing a bit to own the Blairites?
by Liriena » Tue May 21, 2019 9:17 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:Liriena wrote:Are we absolutely sure that CUK is not a bunch of Corbynite astroturfers doing a bit to own the Blairites?
They're liberals incarnate who think everything is fine and can be solved by people being friendlier. Trump man bad, mean words about black people. Prison industrial complex fine, free markets.
EU is fine. Problem is lack of friendly conversation and unity unity unity unity. We're for good things and against bad things. VALUES. The economy is fine and just tho, that didn't cause Brexit.
What causes inter community tension?
Lack of polite and respectful conversation. That's what.
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by The Xenopolis Confederation » Tue May 21, 2019 9:20 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:Liriena wrote:Are we absolutely sure that CUK is not a bunch of Corbynite astroturfers doing a bit to own the Blairites?
They're liberals incarnate who think everything is fine and can be solved by people being friendlier. Trump man bad, mean words about black people. Prison industrial complex fine, free markets.
EU is fine. Problem is lack of friendly conversation and unity unity unity unity. We're for good things and against bad things. VALUES. The economy is fine and just tho, that didn't cause Brexit.
What causes inter community tension?
Lack of polite and respectful conversation. That's what.
Quick, do the thing where you point with your thumb, people like that, it makes them feel like you're a normal person but not being aggressive. aggressive bad. Be friendly and polite, that'll fix things. Point with your thumb while you talk about how you're for good things and against bad things, like unity and dislike division, and how values are important.
by Hirota » Tue May 21, 2019 9:25 am
Well yeah, insofar as they are trying to cast a large net of nonpartisan politics, and there isn't really anything bad with that per se, but it means they struggle with an actual identity, and as far as I can tell they don't really do a good job of listening to 52% of that net and understanding why they voted the way they did.Liriena wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
They're liberals incarnate who think everything is fine and can be solved by people being friendlier. Trump man bad, mean words about black people. Prison industrial complex fine, free markets.
EU is fine. Problem is lack of friendly conversation and unity unity unity unity. We're for good things and against bad things. VALUES. The economy is fine and just tho, that didn't cause Brexit.
What causes inter community tension?
Lack of polite and respectful conversation. That's what.
...holy shit, they're a Cambiemos ripoff.
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