You sure? My time on these forums has shown me merely saying their name is enough to bring them to hysterics.
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by Totally Not OEP » Mon May 20, 2019 2:54 pm
by Novus America » Mon May 20, 2019 3:06 pm
by Torrocca » Mon May 20, 2019 3:10 pm
by Conserative Morality » Mon May 20, 2019 3:25 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:This tbh. The Fash and the Nazis are gunning people down with increasing regularity and are fully committed to a total war mentality and want to tear down everything that currently exists. The other side is content to shout slogans and counter protest but that does nothing and they just keep getting more and more power.
I guess that's the scary thing about those ideologies, isn't it? You can't beat them with words, you have to, in a way, become them and use their own methods to put them down. Anything less will lead to it just continually coming back.
by Diopolis » Mon May 20, 2019 3:56 pm
by Benuty » Mon May 20, 2019 4:06 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:This tbh. The Fash and the Nazis are gunning people down with increasing regularity and are fully committed to a total war mentality and want to tear down everything that currently exists. The other side is content to shout slogans and counter protest but that does nothing and they just keep getting more and more power.
I guess that's the scary thing about those ideologies, isn't it? You can't beat them with words, you have to, in a way, become them and use their own methods to put them down. Anything less will lead to it just continually coming back.
It's not their method, though. People might try to forget, whether out of weakness or cowardice, but liberalism did not begin with kindly protests and harshly worded letters. We did not birth a nation by simply objecting to the oppression of the British monarchy. The anciens regimes of Europe were not torn apart by slogans and protests. The revolutions of '48 did not have their day in the sun because they were scared of violence. The established liberal governments of the 19th and 20th centuries didn't survive by cowering and compromising with the scum that sought to overthrow them. The sooner the mainstream liberal left remembers this, the better.
Totalitarians are thieves and cowards. It's why they spread and engage in mindless political cacophony. Without anywhere to hide, without the ability to sob out excuses and claim persecution, without the restraint of liberal powers; they lose, and they know it.
by Benuty » Mon May 20, 2019 4:06 pm
by Jack Thomas Lang » Mon May 20, 2019 4:08 pm
by Conserative Morality » Mon May 20, 2019 4:40 pm
Benuty wrote:Given what lead up to both world wars I would have to object to your claim they didn't cower, and compromise. The administrations of France, and Britain in the late interwar years were perfectly willing to sacrifice Czechoslovakia upon an alter simply to keep the "peace" at the time. Whether it is because they wanted to focus on an increasingly boxed in Japan or simply fight Germany at a later time is unknown.
by Benuty » Mon May 20, 2019 5:23 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:Benuty wrote:Given what lead up to both world wars I would have to object to your claim they didn't cower, and compromise. The administrations of France, and Britain in the late interwar years were perfectly willing to sacrifice Czechoslovakia upon an alter simply to keep the "peace" at the time. Whether it is because they wanted to focus on an increasingly boxed in Japan or simply fight Germany at a later time is unknown.
How'd that work out for them? Cowering and compromising didn't save them. Growing a spine did.
by Bear Stearns » Mon May 20, 2019 8:23 pm
by Rostavykhan » Mon May 20, 2019 10:04 pm
by Totally Not OEP » Mon May 20, 2019 10:06 pm
Most of England's appalling troubles today are due to a bad guess: she went into the war on the wrong side in 1914. The theory of her statesmen, in those days, was that, by joining France and Russia, she would give a death-blow to a dangerous rival, Germany, and so be free to run the world. But the scheme failed to work; moreover, it had unexpected and almost fatal results. Not only did Germany come out of the mess a dangerous rival still; France also became a rival, and a very formidable one. Worse, the United States was pumped up to immense proportions, and began to challenge England's control of the world's markets. The results are now visible: England has three competitors instead of one, and is steadily going downhill. If she had gone into the war on the German side she'd be in a much better situation today. The Germans would be grateful for the help and willing to pay for it (while the French are not); the French would be down and out, and hence unable to menace the peace of Europe; Germany would have Russia in Europe and there would be no Bolshevik [communist] nuisance; England would have all of Siberia and Central Asia, and there would be no Japanese threat and no Indian revolt; and the United States would still be a docile British colony, as it was in 1914. . . .
The United States made a similar mistake in 1917. Our real interests at the time were on the side of the Germans, whose general attitude of mind is far more American than that of any other people. If we had gone in on their side, England would be moribund today, and the dreadful job of pulling her down, which will now take us forty or filthy years, would be over. We'd have a free hand in the Pacific, and Germany would be running the whole [European] Continent like a house of correction. In return for our connivance there she'd be glad to give us whatever we wanted elsewhere. There would be no Bolshevism [communism] in Russia and no Fascism in Italy. Our debtors would all be able to pay us. The Japs would be docile, and we'd be reorganizing Canada and probably also Australia. But we succumbed to a college professor [Wilson] who read Matthew Arnold, just as the English succumbed to a gay old dog who couldn't bear to think of Prussian MP's shutting down the Paris night-clubs.
As for the mistake the Russians made, I leave it to history.
by The Xenopolis Confederation » Mon May 20, 2019 10:09 pm
Genivaria wrote:One more post and I'll stop with the flags...for now.
Imperial Japan in the style of the German Empire war flag
Best American version.
Three Different
Irish
Flags
Catholic German Empire
Asatru German Flag
French in the style of the German Empire war flag.
Sweden in the style of the German Empire war flag.
Israel in the style of the German Empire war flag.
Ancient Egyptian in the style of the German Empire war flag.
Washington Resistance Army wrote:This tbh. The Fash and the Nazis are gunning people down with increasing regularity and are fully committed to a total war mentality and want to tear down everything that currently exists. The other side is content to shout slogans and counter protest but that does nothing and they just keep getting more and more power.
I guess that's the scary thing about those ideologies, isn't it? You can't beat them with words, you have to, in a way, become them and use their own methods to put them down. Anything less will lead to it just continually coming back.
Conserative Morality wrote:It's not their method, though. People might try to forget, whether out of weakness or cowardice, but liberalism did not begin with kindly protests and harshly worded letters. We did not birth a nation by simply objecting to the oppression of the British monarchy. The anciens regimes of Europe were not torn apart by slogans and protests. The revolutions of '48 did not have their day in the sun because they were scared of violence. The established liberal governments of the 19th and 20th centuries didn't survive by cowering and compromising with the scum that sought to overthrow them. The sooner the mainstream liberal left remembers this, the better.
Totalitarians are thieves and cowards. It's why they spread and engage in mindless political cacophony. Without anywhere to hide, without the ability to sob out excuses and claim persecution, without the restraint of liberal powers; they lose, and they know it.
Jack Thomas Lang wrote:The administrations of France, Britain, and America lacked the balls to meaningfully intervene in the Civil War, losing Russia to communism.
Benuty wrote:If you want to purge vile, and degenerate influence you take away one of the most powerful tools in existence. The constant, and incessant ability to rally between pro-life, and pro-choice. It's not your body or your choice if gestation occurs entirely away from the body, and pregnancy is no longer a political tool.
Also, anime is hardly the worst tool of degeneracy out there given there are far worse things. If you wanted to truly purge the U.S of degeneracy television, and movies would have to be snapped out an existence. Only then can the glorious days of the radio return to triumph!
by The Xenopolis Confederation » Mon May 20, 2019 10:11 pm
Rostavykhan wrote:TBH either way the Allies messed up.
The only reasonable treatment after WWI would be to split Europe. Everything west of Berlin to France, everything east to Russia.
by Benuty » Mon May 20, 2019 10:12 pm
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Genivaria wrote:One more post and I'll stop with the flags...for now.
Imperial Japan in the style of the German Empire war flag
Best American version.
Three Different
Irish
Flags
Catholic German Empire
Asatru German Flag
French in the style of the German Empire war flag.
Sweden in the style of the German Empire war flag.
Israel in the style of the German Empire war flag.
Ancient Egyptian in the style of the German Empire war flag.
The American one is far from the best. Too much white, and the white and red transition is too jarring.Washington Resistance Army wrote:This tbh. The Fash and the Nazis are gunning people down with increasing regularity and are fully committed to a total war mentality and want to tear down everything that currently exists. The other side is content to shout slogans and counter protest but that does nothing and they just keep getting more and more power.
I guess that's the scary thing about those ideologies, isn't it? You can't beat them with words, you have to, in a way, become them and use their own methods to put them down. Anything less will lead to it just continually coming back.
What are you talking about? You make it sound as if there are Fascist militias 100 000 men strong marching on the whitehouse.
That is the scary thing about those ideologies. I just hope you're wrong about that.Conserative Morality wrote:It's not their method, though. People might try to forget, whether out of weakness or cowardice, but liberalism did not begin with kindly protests and harshly worded letters. We did not birth a nation by simply objecting to the oppression of the British monarchy. The anciens regimes of Europe were not torn apart by slogans and protests. The revolutions of '48 did not have their day in the sun because they were scared of violence. The established liberal governments of the 19th and 20th centuries didn't survive by cowering and compromising with the scum that sought to overthrow them. The sooner the mainstream liberal left remembers this, the better.
Totalitarians are thieves and cowards. It's why they spread and engage in mindless political cacophony. Without anywhere to hide, without the ability to sob out excuses and claim persecution, without the restraint of liberal powers; they lose, and they know it.
Coward any day. Don't get me wrong, if it comes to total war between liberalism and fascism, a total war must be fought. But, if you are suggesting that we should violate the rights on Fascists in an attempt to curb Fascism, then I would say that's neither necessary nor justifiable.Jack Thomas Lang wrote:The administrations of France, Britain, and America lacked the balls to meaningfully intervene in the Civil War, losing Russia to communism.
It wasn't their place to do so. Nothing gives them the right to intervene in another country's civil war.Benuty wrote:If you want to purge vile, and degenerate influence you take away one of the most powerful tools in existence. The constant, and incessant ability to rally between pro-life, and pro-choice. It's not your body or your choice if gestation occurs entirely away from the body, and pregnancy is no longer a political tool.
Also, anime is hardly the worst tool of degeneracy out there given there are far worse things. If you wanted to truly purge the U.S of degeneracy television, and movies would have to be snapped out an existence. Only then can the glorious days of the radio return to triumph!
In my mind and in my car, we can't rewind, we've gone too far.
by Bear Stearns » Mon May 20, 2019 10:12 pm
by Benuty » Mon May 20, 2019 10:14 pm
Bear Stearns wrote:Politics is the realm of gentleman, conducted by closing deals and exchanging business cards.
Another martini, Paul?
by Kowani » Mon May 20, 2019 10:20 pm
Bear Stearns wrote:Politics is the realm of gentleman, conducted by closing deals and exchanging business cards.
Another martini, Paul?
by Rostavykhan » Mon May 20, 2019 10:21 pm
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Rostavykhan wrote:TBH either way the Allies messed up.
The only reasonable treatment after WWI would be to split Europe. Everything west of Berlin to France, everything east to Russia.
What about Spain, Portugal, Italy, Switzerland, Denmark, The Netherlands, Norway, Sweden?
by The Xenopolis Confederation » Mon May 20, 2019 10:26 pm
Rostavykhan wrote:Lesser peoples and fallen empires of little importance. They'd be better off unified and uplifted by Europe's best.
by Totally Not OEP » Mon May 20, 2019 10:54 pm
by Jack Thomas Lang » Mon May 20, 2019 10:57 pm
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:It wasn't their place to do so. Nothing gives them the right to intervene in another country's civil war.
by Hanafuridake » Mon May 20, 2019 11:02 pm
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Jack Thomas Lang wrote:The administrations of France, Britain, and America lacked the balls to meaningfully intervene in the Civil War, losing Russia to communism.
It wasn't their place to do so. Nothing gives them the right to intervene in another country's civil war.
Suriyanakhon's alt, finally found my old account's password李贽 wrote:There is nothing difficult about becoming a sage, and nothing false about transcending the world of appearances.
by The Xenopolis Confederation » Mon May 20, 2019 11:04 pm
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