by Communal concils » Sat May 18, 2019 8:43 am
by Petrolheadia » Sat May 18, 2019 12:32 pm
Communal concils wrote:I find it funny that this "Anarchist" state depends on nations (like America ) for it's survival. In fact, it would be crushed by Assad without American aid. The YPG even allowed United States troops to be stationed there, which means that rojava is now a important part of Neo-Conservative imperialism.
by Communal concils » Sat May 18, 2019 12:37 pm
Petrolheadia wrote:Communal concils wrote:I find it funny that this "Anarchist" state depends on nations (like America ) for it's survival. In fact, it would be crushed by Assad without American aid. The YPG even allowed United States troops to be stationed there, which means that rojava is now a important part of Neo-Conservative imperialism.
You like the Soviets, yeah? Well, lemme tell you about Lend-Lease.
by Allanea » Sat May 18, 2019 12:39 pm
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Sat May 18, 2019 12:49 pm
by Petrolheadia » Sat May 18, 2019 12:50 pm
by Farnhamia » Sat May 18, 2019 12:53 pm
by Communal concils » Sat May 18, 2019 12:54 pm
Allanea wrote:In WW2, the Stalinist regime was pretty bad. It did use child soldiers, and engage in any number of nasty tactics against the Nazis, and against dissidents.
Yet most people in the world - even many people who criticize and condemn the Soviet regime otherwise, and Stalinism in particular - generally agree that the Soviets were heroic in their resistance to Nazism, partly because the Nazis very literally were planning to murder and enslave most of the ethnic groups living in the USSR, under General Plan Ost.
I don't disagree that I would not want to live under the Rojava.
But it's important to note in any criticism of them that they are faced with people who practice mass-violence, rape-as-weapons, etc. against them, and are defending themselves against oppression and all sorts of nasty crap not only from the Syrian government, but also from groups like ISIS and even some NATO countries.
It's difficult - indeed, I don't think any group in the 20th century has ever succeeded in this - to completely abide by the rules of war when you're fighting against such lopsided odds against people who hate your guts.
That said I imagine the Kurds will probably lose.
by Communal concils » Sat May 18, 2019 12:57 pm
by Allanea » Sat May 18, 2019 12:59 pm
by Arayas » Sat May 18, 2019 1:01 pm
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Sat May 18, 2019 1:04 pm
by Petrolheadia » Sat May 18, 2019 1:06 pm
Communal concils wrote:Petrolheadia wrote:You like the Soviets, yeah? Well, lemme tell you about Lend-Lease.
I am not oppose to the united states supporting nations. However, 2000's America is different from the united states in 1940's. For best and for worse, but today's America is more greedy and manipulative than ever.
by Communal concils » Sat May 18, 2019 1:07 pm
Arayas wrote:Just a faction in the war that western leftists have a boner for because they claim to support "causes" of the western left.
Supporting an ethno-nationalist/seperatist cause in syria while codemning the same in the west.
by Epicurustan » Sat May 18, 2019 1:15 pm
by Petrolheadia » Sat May 18, 2019 1:26 pm
by Communal concils » Sat May 18, 2019 1:27 pm
Epicurustan wrote:Rojava has nice ideals, their constitution is good and so forth. Generally speaking I think they would be the best party to make peace in Syria.
That said - they are too idealistic, little pragmatic. They refuse to trade and industrialize due to their ecological ideology. Which is noble, but not good in the long term. Rojava needs to centralize its economical coordination and industrialize to become as self sufficient as possible.
Aside of that, Rojava doesn't call itself anarchistic. Yes, there are anarchist groups there, but the State exists.
by Communal concils » Sat May 18, 2019 1:28 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat May 18, 2019 1:35 pm
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by Communal concils » Sat May 18, 2019 1:40 pm
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Until this thread, I had no idea Rojava existed. Personally, then, I haven’t been critical of it.
by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat May 18, 2019 1:41 pm
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by Pim Fortuyn » Sat May 18, 2019 1:44 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat May 18, 2019 1:50 pm
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by Badb Catha » Sat May 18, 2019 1:55 pm
by Communal concils » Sat May 18, 2019 1:58 pm
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Hmm... for what I’m getting, the region claims to practice, among its citizens, gender equality (which is quite an opposite for the rest of Syria). They purport to be libertarian and want religious tolerance. Those seems like pros to me (particularly gender equality and religious tolerance), but what are the cons? There are cons in everything.
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