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by Ifreann » Fri May 17, 2019 6:58 pm
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by Ifreann » Fri May 17, 2019 7:02 pm
The Chuck wrote:*Walks in, takes a look, swings around on one foot and walks back out the door*
*waves at Ifreann and Heloin as he leaves*
by Soviet Tankistan » Fri May 17, 2019 7:02 pm
by Communal concils » Fri May 17, 2019 7:03 pm
Ifreann wrote:Communal concils wrote:
Well, do you know that people can appropriate words. Homosexuals have used words like queer and gay to describe themselves. In fact, it's common for counter-culture movements to turn insults into their official names.
But alt-left isn't an insult. It's a red herring. A tu quoque. A whaboutism. You aren't appropriating an insult, you're trying to give truth to propaganda that was previously a lie. We see you, we see through you.
by Khataiy » Fri May 17, 2019 7:03 pm
Communal concils wrote:Khataiy wrote:I applaud the out of the box thinking. I can also appreciate the thought put into this, it would be interesting to see this or something similar act as a strong counter to the right, it would be very interesting to see the two extremes fight eachother.
Well, we can already see groups like this. There now only needs to be the unification of small groups.
At the moment, alt-left is used to describe a group that doesn't exist.
by Ifreann » Fri May 17, 2019 7:03 pm
Communal concils wrote:Ifreann wrote:But alt-left isn't an insult. It's a red herring. A tu quoque. A whaboutism. You aren't appropriating an insult, you're trying to give truth to propaganda that was previously a lie. We see you, we see through you.
The ideal of a extreme left to combat the alt-right is a blessing to me. I want their leaders to be scared, and I want to create a left that will scared them, yet steals their own image for it's own gains.
by Communal concils » Fri May 17, 2019 7:05 pm
by Heloin » Fri May 17, 2019 7:07 pm
Communal concils wrote:Heloin wrote:There was once a man who said many, if not every single thing you just said. To cut a long story short he killed between a quarter and half the people of Cambodia for his twisted dream to literally destroy the idea of the individual the idea of any difference between people. All would be one and all would be the same.
I know who pol pot is . There are similarities, but there are big differences.
1. I want industrialization and massive production.
2. I embrace intellectualism.
3.I want complete and total centralization.
these differences will result in completely different results.
Soviet Tankistan wrote:Heloin wrote:According to CC, "leftism" is only his particular ideology which I like to call Conservative Stalinism.
He is not a Stalinist. While I am not one either, it is very clear. He is a rightist that hates the right, a self proclaimed leftist that hates most leftists and the ones he doesn't hate should still distance themselves from him.
by Communal concils » Fri May 17, 2019 7:09 pm
Soviet Tankistan wrote:Heloin wrote:According to CC, "leftism" is only his particular ideology which I like to call Conservative Stalinism.
He is not a Stalinist. While I am not one either, it is very clear. He is a rightist that hates the right, a self proclaimed leftist that hates most leftists and the ones he doesn't hate should still distance themselves from him.
by Soviet Tankistan » Fri May 17, 2019 7:11 pm
Heloin wrote:Communal concils wrote:
I know who pol pot is . There are similarities, but there are big differences.
1. I want industrialization and massive production.
2. I embrace intellectualism.
3.I want complete and total centralization.
these differences will result in completely different results.
The key point of failure from Pol Pots regime was the belief that all people could be made to have no difference between anyone. An idea that thousands of people were massacred for and millions more starved for.
1. Still would kill untold millions, if not more so.
2. They won't embrace you.
3. Still would kill untold millions, if not more so.
Not in the slightest.Soviet Tankistan wrote:He is not a Stalinist. While I am not one either, it is very clear. He is a rightist that hates the right, a self proclaimed leftist that hates most leftists and the ones he doesn't hate should still distance themselves from him.
Hench the made up name Conservative Stalinism. I reality the closest in ideology to him would be Pol Pot, but since I don't think anyone calls themselves a Polpotist I have to make up something else.
by Heloin » Fri May 17, 2019 7:11 pm
Communal concils wrote:Soviet Tankistan wrote:He is not a Stalinist. While I am not one either, it is very clear. He is a rightist that hates the right, a self proclaimed leftist that hates most leftists and the ones he doesn't hate should still distance themselves from him.
I believe in a plan economy in which people are given resources regardless of race, gender and cultural origins. I also like labor unions, and I support workers right. I also, support the self determination of people across the world.
also, I am not really different from leaders of Marxist-Leninist states. So unless your a leftcom, then these people are leftist.
by Soviet Tankistan » Fri May 17, 2019 7:15 pm
Communal concils wrote:Soviet Tankistan wrote:He is not a Stalinist. While I am not one either, it is very clear. He is a rightist that hates the right, a self proclaimed leftist that hates most leftists and the ones he doesn't hate should still distance themselves from him.
I believe in a plan economy in which people are given resources regardless of race, gender and cultural origins. I also like labor unions, and I support workers right. I also, support the self determination of people across the world.
also, I am not really different from leaders of Marxist-Leninist states. So unless your a leftcom, then these people are leftist.
by Heloin » Fri May 17, 2019 7:20 pm
Soviet Tankistan wrote:Communal concils wrote:
I believe in a plan economy in which people are given resources regardless of race, gender and cultural origins. I also like labor unions, and I support workers right. I also, support the self determination of people across the world.
also, I am not really different from leaders of Marxist-Leninist states. So unless your a leftcom, then these people are leftist.
You support labor unions? They are a tool of moderate capitalism. The radical market capitalists must abolish them for any large progress to occur. You have social right wing ideas and less in common with state socialists than you say. Mussolini would be a closer fit when he was in his less capitalist phase, not the Leninists.
by Soviet Tankistan » Fri May 17, 2019 7:20 pm
Heloin wrote:Communal concils wrote:
I believe in a plan economy in which people are given resources regardless of race, gender and cultural origins. I also like labor unions, and I support workers right. I also, support the self determination of people across the world.
also, I am not really different from leaders of Marxist-Leninist states. So unless your a leftcom, then these people are leftist.
Because when people think of humans who've made positive contributions to humanity, they think Stalin and Mao.
by Communal concils » Fri May 17, 2019 7:22 pm
Heloin wrote:Communal concils wrote:
I know who pol pot is . There are similarities, but there are big differences.
1. I want industrialization and massive production.
2. I embrace intellectualism.
3.I want complete and total centralization.
these differences will result in completely different results.
The key point of failure from Pol Pots regime was the belief that all people could be made to have no difference between anyone. An idea that thousands of people were massacred for and millions more starved for.
1. Still would kill untold millions, if not more so.
2. They won't embrace you.
3. Still would kill untold millions, if not more so.
Not in the slightest.Soviet Tankistan wrote:He is not a Stalinist. While I am not one either, it is very clear. He is a rightist that hates the right, a self proclaimed leftist that hates most leftists and the ones he doesn't hate should still distance themselves from him.
Hench the made up name Conservative Stalinism. I reality the closest in ideology to him would be Pol Pot, but since I don't think anyone calls themselves a Polpotist I have to make up something else.
by Soviet Tankistan » Fri May 17, 2019 7:24 pm
Heloin wrote:Soviet Tankistan wrote:You support labor unions? They are a tool of moderate capitalism. The radical market capitalists must abolish them for any large progress to occur. You have social right wing ideas and less in common with state socialists than you say. Mussolini would be a closer fit when he was in his less capitalist phase, not the Leninists.
Hating on Labour Unions? You sure you ain't a tankie
by Communal concils » Fri May 17, 2019 7:27 pm
Soviet Tankistan wrote:Heloin wrote:The key point of failure from Pol Pots regime was the belief that all people could be made to have no difference between anyone. An idea that thousands of people were massacred for and millions more starved for.
1. Still would kill untold millions, if not more so.
2. They won't embrace you.
3. Still would kill untold millions, if not more so.
Not in the slightest.
Hench the made up name Conservative Stalinism. I reality the closest in ideology to him would be Pol Pot, but since I don't think anyone calls themselves a Polpotist I have to make up something else.
Kimjongilism or Juche would be more fitting. He is in dangerous territory. Metaphorically, he is no man's land between third fascism and conservative state capitalism.
by Heloin » Fri May 17, 2019 7:27 pm
Communal concils wrote:Heloin wrote:The key point of failure from Pol Pots regime was the belief that all people could be made to have no difference between anyone. An idea that thousands of people were massacred for and millions more starved for.
1. Still would kill untold millions, if not more so.
2. They won't embrace you.
3. Still would kill untold millions, if not more so.
Not in the slightest.
Hench the made up name Conservative Stalinism. I reality the closest in ideology to him would be Pol Pot, but since I don't think anyone calls themselves a Polpotist I have to make up something else.
I want to abolish the distinctions between groups, that' all. Also, I believe that people should have access to food, water and shelter without dependence of the market.
by Ifreann » Fri May 17, 2019 7:28 pm
Communal concils wrote:Soviet Tankistan wrote:Kimjongilism or Juche would be more fitting. He is in dangerous territory. Metaphorically, he is no man's land between third fascism and conservative state capitalism.
This is amazing comedy. You can't be fascist when you support central planning.
I don't want to kill of the mentally disabled or mentally ill, I support feminism, and I think the state is a tool(not the spiritual god of fascism).
also, I am a socialist because I support the ideal of an cooperative. I support Nationalization, protectionism and the welfare . Yet, I can't be called a state capitalist because I want to abolish the corporation.
Just call me a democratic socialist, because I think socialism can be achieve through the ballot box.
by Cekoviu » Fri May 17, 2019 7:30 pm
Heloin wrote:Communal concils wrote:
I want to abolish the distinctions between groups, that' all. Also, I believe that people should have access to food, water and shelter without dependence of the market.
You also want to set up the Sex Stasi for no other reason then you're complex about other peoples relationships.
by Heloin » Fri May 17, 2019 7:35 pm
Soviet Tankistan wrote:Heloin wrote:Hating on Labour Unions? You sure you ain't a tankie
Intertrade workers alliances would work better. Bourgeois useless careers like acting and the corporate field will not be considered for these associations. The labor unions are not bad because they protect the workers (as fiscal conservatives and fascists believe), they are bad because they are short sighted and ultimately a great concession to capitalism.
by Communal concils » Fri May 17, 2019 7:36 pm
Heloin wrote:Communal concils wrote:
I want to abolish the distinctions between groups, that' all. Also, I believe that people should have access to food, water and shelter without dependence of the market.
You also want to set up the Sex Stasi for no other reason then you're complex about other peoples relationships.
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