Alt-Left Manifesto

[Ifreann]

Seven. I've seen it happen, she's terrifying.

Seven that you know of, of course. >:3

Torrocca of House Anarchy, first of her name, bane of trashcans, liberator of Starbucks, protector of Italian virginity, enforcer of our Lord...wait...somethings gone wrong here...

[The Chuck]

*Walks in, takes a look, swings around on one foot and walks back out the door*

*waves at Ifreann and Heloin as he leaves*

[Ifreann]

*Walks in, takes a look, swings around on one foot and walks back out the door*

*waves at Ifreann and Heloin as he leaves*

[Soviet Tankistan]

In your pan-leftist alt-left wouldn't you have to include Anarchists and Trotskyists?

According to CC, "leftism" is only his particular ideology which I like to call Conservative Stalinism.

He is not a Stalinist. While I am not one either, it is very clear. He is a rightist that hates the right, a self proclaimed leftist that hates most leftists and the ones he doesn't hate should still distance themselves from him.

[Communal concils]

Well, do you know that people can appropriate words. Homosexuals have used words like queer and gay to describe themselves. In fact, it's common for counter-culture movements to turn insults into their official names.

But alt-left isn't an insult. It's a red herring. A tu quoque. A whaboutism. You aren't appropriating an insult, you're trying to give truth to propaganda that was previously a lie. We see you, we see through you.

The ideal of a extreme left to combat the alt-right is a blessing to me. I want their leaders to be scared, and I want to create a left that will scared them, yet steals their own image for it's own gains.

[Khataiy]

I applaud the out of the box thinking. I can also appreciate the thought put into this, it would be interesting to see this or something similar act as a strong counter to the right, it would be very interesting to see the two extremes fight eachother.

Well, we can already see groups like this. There now only needs to be the unification of small groups.

At the moment, alt-left is used to describe a group that doesn't exist.

You would need to include them to have a strong unified front

[Ifreann]

But alt-left isn't an insult. It's a red herring. A tu quoque. A whaboutism. You aren't appropriating an insult, you're trying to give truth to propaganda that was previously a lie. We see you, we see through you.

The ideal of a extreme left to combat the alt-right is a blessing to me. I want their leaders to be scared, and I want to create a left that will scared them, yet steals their own image for it's own gains.

Bollocks.

[Communal concils]

Well, we can already see groups like this. There now only needs to be the unification of small groups.

At the moment, alt-left is used to describe a group that doesn't exist.

You would need to include them to have a strong unified front

well, I will try that.

[Heloin]

There was once a man who said many, if not every single thing you just said. To cut a long story short he killed between a quarter and half the people of Cambodia for his twisted dream to literally destroy the idea of the individual the idea of any difference between people. All would be one and all would be the same.

I know who pol pot is . There are similarities, but there are big differences.

1. I want industrialization and massive production.

2. I embrace intellectualism.

3.I want complete and total centralization.

these differences will result in completely different results.

The key point of failure from Pol Pots regime was the belief that all people could be made to have no difference between anyone. An idea that thousands of people were massacred for and millions more starved for.

1. Still would kill untold millions, if not more so.

2. They won't embrace you.

3. Still would kill untold millions, if not more so.

Not in the slightest.

According to CC, "leftism" is only his particular ideology which I like to call Conservative Stalinism.

He is not a Stalinist. While I am not one either, it is very clear. He is a rightist that hates the right, a self proclaimed leftist that hates most leftists and the ones he doesn't hate should still distance themselves from him.

Hench the made up name Conservative Stalinism. I reality the closest in ideology to him would be Pol Pot, but since I don't think anyone calls themselves a Polpotist I have to make up something else.

[Communal concils]

According to CC, "leftism" is only his particular ideology which I like to call Conservative Stalinism.

He is not a Stalinist. While I am not one either, it is very clear. He is a rightist that hates the right, a self proclaimed leftist that hates most leftists and the ones he doesn't hate should still distance themselves from him.

I believe in a plan economy in which people are given resources regardless of race, gender and cultural origins. I also like labor unions, and I support workers right. I also, support the self determination of people across the world.


also, I am not really different from leaders of Marxist-Leninist states. So unless your a leftcom, then these people are leftist.

[Soviet Tankistan]

I know who pol pot is . There are similarities, but there are big differences.

1. I want industrialization and massive production.

2. I embrace intellectualism.

3.I want complete and total centralization.

these differences will result in completely different results.

The key point of failure from Pol Pots regime was the belief that all people could be made to have no difference between anyone. An idea that thousands of people were massacred for and millions more starved for.

1. Still would kill untold millions, if not more so.

2. They won't embrace you.

3. Still would kill untold millions, if not more so.

Not in the slightest.

He is not a Stalinist. While I am not one either, it is very clear. He is a rightist that hates the right, a self proclaimed leftist that hates most leftists and the ones he doesn't hate should still distance themselves from him.

Hench the made up name Conservative Stalinism. I reality the closest in ideology to him would be Pol Pot, but since I don't think anyone calls themselves a Polpotist I have to make up something else.

Kimjongilism or Juche would be more fitting. He is in dangerous territory. Metaphorically, he is no man's land between third fascism and conservative state capitalism.

[Heloin]

He is not a Stalinist. While I am not one either, it is very clear. He is a rightist that hates the right, a self proclaimed leftist that hates most leftists and the ones he doesn't hate should still distance themselves from him.

I believe in a plan economy in which people are given resources regardless of race, gender and cultural origins. I also like labor unions, and I support workers right. I also, support the self determination of people across the world.


also, I am not really different from leaders of Marxist-Leninist states. So unless your a leftcom, then these people are leftist.

Because when people think of humans who've made positive contributions to humanity, they think Stalin and Mao.

[Soviet Tankistan]

He is not a Stalinist. While I am not one either, it is very clear. He is a rightist that hates the right, a self proclaimed leftist that hates most leftists and the ones he doesn't hate should still distance themselves from him.

I believe in a plan economy in which people are given resources regardless of race, gender and cultural origins. I also like labor unions, and I support workers right. I also, support the self determination of people across the world.


also, I am not really different from leaders of Marxist-Leninist states. So unless your a leftcom, then these people are leftist.

You support labor unions? They are a tool of moderate capitalism. The radical market capitalists must abolish them for any large progress to occur. You have social right wing ideas and less in common with state socialists than you say. Mussolini would be a closer fit when he was in his less capitalist phase, not the Leninists.

[Heloin]

I believe in a plan economy in which people are given resources regardless of race, gender and cultural origins. I also like labor unions, and I support workers right. I also, support the self determination of people across the world.


also, I am not really different from leaders of Marxist-Leninist states. So unless your a leftcom, then these people are leftist.

You support labor unions? They are a tool of moderate capitalism. The radical market capitalists must abolish them for any large progress to occur. You have social right wing ideas and less in common with state socialists than you say. Mussolini would be a closer fit when he was in his less capitalist phase, not the Leninists.

Hating on Labour Unions? You sure you ain't a tankie

[Soviet Tankistan]

I believe in a plan economy in which people are given resources regardless of race, gender and cultural origins. I also like labor unions, and I support workers right. I also, support the self determination of people across the world.


also, I am not really different from leaders of Marxist-Leninist states. So unless your a leftcom, then these people are leftist.

Because when people think of humans who've made positive contributions to humanity, they think Stalin and Mao.

Stalin may have made the most contributions of any modern leader. As for Mao, I hate him. I really do, he's a revisionist and an enemy. I still have to admit he made tremendous contributions to China, even with his stupid ideology. It is painful to see that some people still take his murderous, revisionist, horrendous, and extreme ideology as a better theory than real Marxism-Leninism, but he did something.

[Communal concils]

I know who pol pot is . There are similarities, but there are big differences.

1. I want industrialization and massive production.

2. I embrace intellectualism.

3.I want complete and total centralization.

these differences will result in completely different results.

The key point of failure from Pol Pots regime was the belief that all people could be made to have no difference between anyone. An idea that thousands of people were massacred for and millions more starved for.

1. Still would kill untold millions, if not more so.

2. They won't embrace you.

3. Still would kill untold millions, if not more so.

Not in the slightest.

He is not a Stalinist. While I am not one either, it is very clear. He is a rightist that hates the right, a self proclaimed leftist that hates most leftists and the ones he doesn't hate should still distance themselves from him.

Hench the made up name Conservative Stalinism. I reality the closest in ideology to him would be Pol Pot, but since I don't think anyone calls themselves a Polpotist I have to make up something else.

I want to abolish the distinctions between groups, that' all. Also, I believe that people should have access to food, water and shelter without dependence of the market.

[Soviet Tankistan]

You support labor unions? They are a tool of moderate capitalism. The radical market capitalists must abolish them for any large progress to occur. You have social right wing ideas and less in common with state socialists than you say. Mussolini would be a closer fit when he was in his less capitalist phase, not the Leninists.

Hating on Labour Unions? You sure you ain't a tankie

Intertrade workers alliances would work better. Bourgeois useless careers like acting and the corporate field will not be considered for these associations. The labor unions are not bad because they protect the workers (as fiscal conservatives and fascists believe), they are bad because they are short sighted and ultimately a great concession to capitalism.

[Ifreann]

Hating on Labour Unions? You sure you ain't a tankie

Intertrade workers alliances would work better. Bourgeois useless careers like acting...

[Communal concils]

The key point of failure from Pol Pots regime was the belief that all people could be made to have no difference between anyone. An idea that thousands of people were massacred for and millions more starved for.

1. Still would kill untold millions, if not more so.

2. They won't embrace you.

3. Still would kill untold millions, if not more so.

Not in the slightest.


Hench the made up name Conservative Stalinism. I reality the closest in ideology to him would be Pol Pot, but since I don't think anyone calls themselves a Polpotist I have to make up something else.

Kimjongilism or Juche would be more fitting. He is in dangerous territory. Metaphorically, he is no man's land between third fascism and conservative state capitalism.

This is amazing comedy. You can't be fascist when you support central planning.

I don't want to kill of the mentally disabled or mentally ill, I support feminism, and I think the state is a tool(not the spiritual god of fascism).

also, I am a socialist because I support the ideal of an cooperative. I support Nationalization, protectionism and the welfare . Yet, I can't be called a state capitalist because I want to abolish the corporation.

Just call me a democratic socialist, because I think socialism can be achieve through the ballot box.

[Heloin]

The key point of failure from Pol Pots regime was the belief that all people could be made to have no difference between anyone. An idea that thousands of people were massacred for and millions more starved for.

1. Still would kill untold millions, if not more so.

2. They won't embrace you.

3. Still would kill untold millions, if not more so.

Not in the slightest.


Hench the made up name Conservative Stalinism. I reality the closest in ideology to him would be Pol Pot, but since I don't think anyone calls themselves a Polpotist I have to make up something else.

I want to abolish the distinctions between groups, that' all. Also, I believe that people should have access to food, water and shelter without dependence of the market.

You also want to set up the Sex Stasi for no other reason then you're complex about other peoples relationships.

[Ifreann]

Kimjongilism or Juche would be more fitting. He is in dangerous territory. Metaphorically, he is no man's land between third fascism and conservative state capitalism.

This is amazing comedy. You can't be fascist when you support central planning.

I don't want to kill of the mentally disabled or mentally ill, I support feminism, and I think the state is a tool(not the spiritual god of fascism).

also, I am a socialist because I support the ideal of an cooperative. I support Nationalization, protectionism and the welfare . Yet, I can't be called a state capitalist because I want to abolish the corporation.

Just call me a democratic socialist, because I think socialism can be achieve through the ballot box.

We can all see quite plainly thst you're trying to make leftists look bad. You can go away now.

[Cekoviu]

Best way to ruin the left forever.

[Cekoviu]

I want to abolish the distinctions between groups, that' all. Also, I believe that people should have access to food, water and shelter without dependence of the market.

You also want to set up the Sex Stasi for no other reason then you're complex about other peoples relationships.

I've heard that some people are into that...

[Heloin]

Hating on Labour Unions? You sure you ain't a tankie

Intertrade workers alliances would work better. Bourgeois useless careers like acting and the corporate field will not be considered for these associations. The labor unions are not bad because they protect the workers (as fiscal conservatives and fascists believe), they are bad because they are short sighted and ultimately a great concession to capitalism.

Oh, you can't scare me, I'm sticking to the union,
I'm sticking to the union, I'm sticking to the union.
Oh, you can't scare me, I'm sticking to the union,
I'm sticking to the union 'til the day I die.

[Communal concils]

I want to abolish the distinctions between groups, that' all. Also, I believe that people should have access to food, water and shelter without dependence of the market.

You also want to set up the Sex Stasi for no other reason then you're complex about other peoples relationships.

I actually believe that bourgeois society has corrupted relationships, turning them into a something that exist for pleasure.

Honestly, I want to remove sexism and problems involving sexual minorities(just like you).
It's just that I think that abolishing gender roles and creating a "New Man and Women" will fix the issue. My justification for being anti-Libertine is because it is consumerism for sex. It is constant consumption for now reason, and limits rational thought with impulsive behaviors.